Just got my Grado SR225s ... *excellent*

Rent

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Let the break in begin :D

Going from regular enclosed stero headphones to these... its quite a change (even tho they're not broken in yet)

:beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer:
 

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I almost bought a pair of those a while back. I ended up with the Sennheiser eH2270s, though. I'm sure the Grados are excellent cans. Enjoy. :)

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fyleow

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Nice choice, I like the Grado sound but oh man they were uncomfortable.

Ended up with the HD600 but I'm out of the headphone scene now. Only pair of decent cans I own left is the Etymotic ER4S
 

Rent

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Yes, they're open cans :D

They don't hurt my ears, but they're not the most comfortable headphones. I got them for the pure audio quality and they haven't disappointed so far :)
 

LongCoolMother

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Originally posted by: fyleow
Nice choice, I like the Grado sound but oh man they were uncomfortable.

Ended up with the HD600 but I'm out of the headphone scene now. Only pair of decent cans I own left is the Etymotic ER4S

the er4s are sweet moreso than the hd600s imo (i had both). i used to have them. the sr225s are awesome as well, especially for rock. i love those phones. now i own beyerdynamic DT880s from a meta42 max and DA DAC which rock like crazy.
 

fyleow

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Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
Originally posted by: fyleow
Nice choice, I like the Grado sound but oh man they were uncomfortable.

Ended up with the HD600 but I'm out of the headphone scene now. Only pair of decent cans I own left is the Etymotic ER4S

the er4s are sweet moreso than the hd600s imo (i had both). i used to have them. the sr225s are awesome as well, especially for rock. i love those phones. now i own beyerdynamic DT880s from a meta42 max and DA DAC which rock like crazy.

The etymotics are great, and yup better than the 600s in a noisy environment. I would rather have the 600s in a totally silent room though, because it has more tactile bass and it is more comfortable.

My all time favorite headphone has to be the Stax Classics II, it sounds a lot like the Etymotics but it has the soundstage of real speakers. The only problem is that it's SO open you'd have to be in a very quiet room to fully appreciate it.

I wanted portable cans that sounded awesome so my only choice was the Etymotics (well I guess Shure does a good job too, but when I bought my first canal phone shure wasn't even in this business and I guess I have some brand loyalty)
 

glen

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Originally posted by: Rent
Let the break in begin :D

Going from regular enclosed stero headphones to these... its quite a change (even tho they're not broken in yet)

:beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer:
There is no such thign as stereo head phones unless you have a binaural recording.

 

LongCoolMother

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Originally posted by: fyleow
Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
Originally posted by: fyleow
Nice choice, I like the Grado sound but oh man they were uncomfortable.

Ended up with the HD600 but I'm out of the headphone scene now. Only pair of decent cans I own left is the Etymotic ER4S

the er4s are sweet moreso than the hd600s imo (i had both). i used to have them. the sr225s are awesome as well, especially for rock. i love those phones. now i own beyerdynamic DT880s from a meta42 max and DA DAC which rock like crazy.

The etymotics are great, and yup better than the 600s in a noisy environment. I would rather have the 600s in a totally silent room though, because it has more tactile bass and it is more comfortable.

My all time favorite headphone has to be the Stax Classics II, it sounds a lot like the Etymotics but it has the soundstage of real speakers. The only problem is that it's SO open you'd have to be in a very quiet room to fully appreciate it.

I wanted portable cans that sounded awesome so my only choice was the Etymotics (well I guess Shure does a good job too, but when I bought my first canal phone shure wasn't even in this business and I guess I have some brand loyalty)

WOW!! you owned the stax classics?! awessome. ive only heard those a handful of times (at head-fi meets) and they were amazingly good. and i suppose even better then the environment is silent. my buddy picked up the lower end of the shure line (e2c) and it rocks pretty well. bit bass bloated imo though. but lots of people love bass. the 600s i owned i traded off for etys because at the time i didnt have a source doing justice to the calibre of the 600s. the er4s are a bit more forgiving, but i eventually got rid of those also (couldnt get used to the discomfort slightly), and now im here, with DT880s for home, and sony D66SL eggos for portable.
 

LongCoolMother

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Originally posted by: glen
Originally posted by: Rent
Let the break in begin :D

Going from regular enclosed stero headphones to these... its quite a change (even tho they're not broken in yet)

:beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer:
There is no such thign as stereo head phones unless you have a binaural recording.

http://jimtreats.crosswinds.net/MyTreats/Binaural/

try some of those on your new SR225s!!! some of them are beyond awesome. there is one where you are in the room and someone is talking to you, and its creepy, its so realistic, like they're really there.
 

glen

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Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
Originally posted by: glen
Originally posted by: Rent
Let the break in begin :D

Going from regular enclosed stero headphones to these... its quite a change (even tho they're not broken in yet)

:beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer:
There is no such thign as stereo head phones unless you have a binaural recording.

http://jimtreats.crosswinds.net/MyTreats/Binaural/

try some of those on your new SR225s!!! some of them are beyond awesome. there is one where you are in the room and someone is talking to you, and its creepy, its so realistic, like they're really there.
Yes. Those are fantastic, but normal recordign are unlisteneable on headphones. I have no idea how people use them. I think most people have not heard stereo. What is it 10% of people can't see the 3d image in the stereoo3D pictures? I assume 90% or more have never heard stereo.

 

glen

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Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
So what source are you listening to?
I use normal recordings on stereo speakers.
I can't stand headphones.
I assume most folks who use them either:
don't know what stereo is
or
have a roomate
or
both

 

fyleow

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Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
Originally posted by: fyleow
Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
Originally posted by: fyleow
Nice choice, I like the Grado sound but oh man they were uncomfortable.

Ended up with the HD600 but I'm out of the headphone scene now. Only pair of decent cans I own left is the Etymotic ER4S

the er4s are sweet moreso than the hd600s imo (i had both). i used to have them. the sr225s are awesome as well, especially for rock. i love those phones. now i own beyerdynamic DT880s from a meta42 max and DA DAC which rock like crazy.

The etymotics are great, and yup better than the 600s in a noisy environment. I would rather have the 600s in a totally silent room though, because it has more tactile bass and it is more comfortable.

My all time favorite headphone has to be the Stax Classics II, it sounds a lot like the Etymotics but it has the soundstage of real speakers. The only problem is that it's SO open you'd have to be in a very quiet room to fully appreciate it.

I wanted portable cans that sounded awesome so my only choice was the Etymotics (well I guess Shure does a good job too, but when I bought my first canal phone shure wasn't even in this business and I guess I have some brand loyalty)

WOW!! you owned the stax classics?! awessome. ive only heard those a handful of times (at head-fi meets) and they were amazingly good. and i suppose even better then the environment is silent. my buddy picked up the lower end of the shure line (e2c) and it rocks pretty well. bit bass bloated imo though. but lots of people love bass. the 600s i owned i traded off for etys because at the time i didnt have a source doing justice to the calibre of the 600s. the er4s are a bit more forgiving, but i eventually got rid of those also (couldnt get used to the discomfort slightly), and now im here, with DT880s for home, and sony D66SL eggos for portable.

The price of the Stax is not too bad if you order it directly from Japan, I think I paid about ~$720 for mine. They are great but they really limit your upgrading options, and that is why I got rid of them. Part of the fun is trying out new equipment and you're pretty much stuck with electrostatic gear (there is not a lot of it out there). They are simply amazing for vocals/highs/imaging, but the tactile bass was seriously lacking. Oh and they looked goofy :p

Things got very frustrating for me later on...I couldn't enjoy my headphones for the majoirty of music I had anymore (most of it was on my computer, 320kbps MP3). The Audigy I had did not have enough power for my AudioValve RKV MK2, and it was simply unlistenable (way too quiet). If I wanted to listen to music I had to wait for my amp to warm up, and I could only use my CDP as a source. My CDP didn't like CDRWs either so it was very painful.

I've been considering going DAC > Balanced Gilmore Amp > HD600 lately but the HD497s sound okay and I'll save myself a lot of cash.
 

fyleow

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Originally posted by: glen
Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
So what source are you listening to?
I use normal recordings on stereo speakers.
I can't stand headphones.
I assume most folks who use them either:
don't know what stereo is
or
have a roomate
or
both

What kind of headphones have you listened to? My dad has been a speaker person all his life and he was impressed by my Stax.

I can't stand most speakers...the lack of detail really bugs me.
 

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Let the break in begin

Going from regular enclosed stero headphones to these... its quite a change (even tho they're not broken in yet)

Wow, I'm jealous. :)
It's tough to go wrong with Grado, though. Ever since hearing a friend's pair of SR-60's I've been tainted and eventually had to get a pair of SR-80's of my own (glad to see some SR-80 representation here, btw). As far as comfort, I didn't find the headphones themselves uncomfortable, but the earpads that came with mine caused my ears to hurt after about 30 minutes of wearing them. That was easily fixed by trading earpads with my friend who owned the SR-60's

Enjoy your new cans, but beware - everything else will sound subpar compared to the Grados. :D
 

glen

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Originally posted by: fyleow
Originally posted by: glen
Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
So what source are you listening to?
I use normal recordings on stereo speakers.
I can't stand headphones.
I assume most folks who use them either:
don't know what stereo is
or
have a roomate
or
both

What kind of headphones have you listened to? My dad has been a speaker person all his life and he was impressed by my Stax.

I can't stand most speakers...the lack of detail really bugs me.
Headphones by definition can't do stereo sound from a normal 2 channel recording.
You need to hear the opposite channel in each ear in addition to the main channel.
That happens with speakers, but nto with headphones.
And, BTW, my Legacy Focus speakers are as detailed as any head phone, and have a lot more bass.

 

fyleow

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Originally posted by: Honkus
Let the break in begin

Going from regular enclosed stero headphones to these... its quite a change (even tho they're not broken in yet)

Wow, I'm jealous. :)
It's tough to go wrong with Grado, though. Ever since hearing a friend's pair of SR-60's I've been tainted and eventually had to get a pair of SR-80's of my own (glad to see some SR-80 representation here, btw). As far as comfort, I didn't find the headphones themselves uncomfortable, but the earpads that came with mine caused my ears to hurt after about 30 minutes of wearing them. That was easily fixed by trading earpads with my friend who owned the SR-60's

Enjoy your new cans, but beware - everything else will sound subpar compared to the Grados. :D

Everything will sound subpar to the 225s except a whole bunch of other phones. Like the RS 1 for instance. :evil:

Remember, ignorance is bliss. Stop now before it's too late! :)
 

Honkus

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I'll kindly take a pair of RS-1's, thank you. And don't forget the headphone amp.

God, I don't think I'd ever take my headphones off if I owned that combination.
 

fyleow

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Originally posted by: glen
Headphones by definition can't do stereo sound from a normal 2 channel recording.
You need to hear the opposite channel in each ear in addition to the main channel.
That happens with speakers, but nto with headphones.
And, BTW, my Legacy Focus speakers are as detailed as any head phone, and have a lot more bass.

Headphone amplifiers have crossfeed circuits to fix the problem, and the Stax are so open that you can hear the opposite channel in each ear. You're right though, it is different from speakers and it is personal preference. Saying people who enjoy headphones over speakers don't know what stereo is is a little harsh IMO.

I will need to demo more speakers, I have heard the B&W Nautilus 802s, and while they were excellent I still felt that something was lacking. But If I had the space (live in an apartment right now) and the cash I would definately go for a speaker setup over a headphone one.
 

glen

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Originally posted by: fyleow
Originally posted by: glen
Headphones by definition can't do stereo sound from a normal 2 channel recording.
You need to hear the opposite channel in each ear in addition to the main channel.
That happens with speakers, but nto with headphones.
And, BTW, my Legacy Focus speakers are as detailed as any head phone, and have a lot more bass.

Saying people who enjoy headphones over speakers don't know what stereo is is a little harsh IMO.
No. It is simply true. I think most people have not heard the stereo effect, so they do not knwo what it missign from headphones.