Just got an inversion table...

[BoomerD]

I have thought about using something like this, my problem is not in my lower back though, it is at the base of my neck, between my shoulder blades. Not sure how to decompress the area. I feel like I should hang by my head to get relief, if that makes sense. Not going to try that though...
Any suggestions? I workout, have gone to the chiropractor for years, back when I had insurance. None of them gave me relief.

My chiropractor "gave" me one of these 10 years ago:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...KSSXPD65N4XYHM

Uncomfortable as hell...but it helps. I have a bad C6-C7 disk plus some "compression issues" where the spine joins the base of the skull. Causes the worst fucking headaches I've ever had. 15 minutes per day for a few days in the torture I mean traction device, and I feel MUCH better for a couple of months.

 

[brblx]

a buddy from high school had one of these.

we used it to take upside down shotguns (stoner term- take large joint or blunt, reverse it, and force murderous smoke into your friend's face).

...we were not productive.

 

[Kaekae]

I use an inversion table from www.losethebackpain.com and also purchased Nubax Trio that is also for lower back pain relief.

Both products work very well, I feel that I can stretch my neck and shoulders more while on the Inversion table but the Nubax Trio is so easy to use and can really stretch my lower back (perfect from a 8 hour shift at the office followered by a 2 hour gaming session at home).

 

[ocguy09]

Bought this for my mom. Has helped her quite a bit.

Nubax Trio

http://www.amazon.com/Nubax-Trio-Bac.../dp/B002P4BVN4

 

[Locut0s]

I don't like the inversion tables. The blood rushes to my head and things go...dark.

A couple of local chiropractors have "invested" in the DRX9000 (or something like that) for disk decompression. I wouldn't mind trying it, but without insurance, the cost is prohibitive. (last time I checked, $175 per session)

the drx9000 is being bought and sold between chiropractors more than stocks on wall street these days. i never looked into why... my assumption is because insurance won't cover it for some reason. i dunno. maybe it's just bad equipment?

/shrug

http://realpt.blogspot.com/2007/06/drx-9000-maker-under-investigation.html

 

[eits]

http://realpt.blogspot.com/2007/06/drx-9000-maker-under-investigation.html

:thumbsup:

thanks

yeah, i was offered to lease one of those tables for real cheap, but because of how many i've seen being juggled around between chiropractors, i didn't feel confident in the situation... i just didn't trust it. i didn't know why or anything, but i just passed on the offer.

besides, i have a flexion-distraction table in the office that can do pretty much the same thing.

 

[PhoKingGuy]

My chiropractor "gave" me one of these 10 years ago:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...KSSXPD65N4XYHM

Uncomfortable as hell...but it helps. I have a bad C6-C7 disk plus some "compression issues" where the spine joins the base of the skull. Causes the worst fucking headaches I've ever had. 15 minutes per day for a few days in the torture I mean traction device, and I feel MUCH better for a couple of months.

That pretty much looks like something that mimics a few manipulative things that ive just started learning. I think Osteopathic manipulation for the most part is glorified massage, but i wont deny it makes my back feel a lot better after getting it worked on.

<---- D.O. Student, year 1.

 

[brblx]

....so nobody uses these for upside down bong hits, huh?

 

[BoomerD]

That pretty much looks like something that mimics a few manipulative things that ive just started learning. I think Osteopathic manipulation for the most part is glorified massage, but i wont deny it makes my back feel a lot better after getting it worked on.

<---- D.O. Student, year 1.

:thumbsup:

Our family physican is a DO. We've been with him for almost 25 years. GOOD doctor. Not a fucking pill-pusher...but will write scrips when they're appropriate.

 

[Locut0s]

:thumbsup:

thanks

yeah, i was offered to lease one of those tables for real cheap, but because of how many i've seen being juggled around between chiropractors, i didn't feel confident in the situation... i just didn't trust it. i didn't know why or anything, but i just passed on the offer.

besides, i have a flexion-distraction table in the office that can do pretty much the same thing.

BTW have you heard of any of the other quackery tools that some chiropractor use? I remember seeing a documentary once about scam chiropractors and they talked about using something called the nervoscope and other laughable tools.

Uup yup here it is: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1366&bih=1447

 

[Locut0s]

....so nobody uses these for upside down bong hits, huh?

Wouldn't that be less effective? Your lungs are below your mouth so gravity helps get the smoke down there no?

 

[eits]

That pretty much looks like something that mimics a few manipulative things that ive just started learning. I think Osteopathic manipulation for the most part is glorified massage, but i wont deny it makes my back feel a lot better after getting it worked on.

<---- D.O. Student, year 1.

osteopathic manipulation is more like physical therapy manipulation and kinda like chiropractic manipulation and nothing like massage.

the differences = osteopathic/pt manipulation helps get more movement into the joints and the pops are palliative because of the endorphin release.

chiropractic manipulation = specific force through a specific line of drive where the goal is to get increased range of motion and promote disc health... the palliative cracks and pops are secondary to the promotion of disc health.

osteo/pt manipulation is similar to chiro manipulation in a sense, but i see them as different.

massage deals more with muscles and less with joints. you may get a few palliative pops, but that's where the similarities end. massage does help with treatment goals greatly, though, of both osteos and chiros.

i made a venn diagram to better illustrate. lump pt manipulation in with osteo, except exclude the historical similarities and freeing blood flow part when thinking about pt manipulation.

 

[eits]

BTW have you heard of any of the other quackery tools that some chiropractor use? I remember seeing a documentary once about scam chiropractors and they talked about using something called the nervoscope and other laughable tools.

Uup yup here it is: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1366&bih=1447

yeah, they're junk. there's no interexaminer reliability whatsoever. lots of chiropractors use them because they either actually believe it works or because it's a good marketing tool.

 

[bucwylde23]

Thanks for the post purbeast. Never heard of this before.

I ordered one from amazon today. I have some lower back pain that i can't get rid of even with a chiropractors help. I'm hoping this will help along with exercise.

 

[RedRooster]

This post also led my wife and I to order one from Costco(Teeter 550). There's lot of happy people on the internet who've used them, and if it sucks I'll just take it back.

Thanks for this post as well purbeast!

 

[purbeast0]

yea man i've been using it daily and it definitely makes my lower back feel better. it's my 2 lower lumbar discs that are screwed up and it makes a noticeable difference. i actually experimented today and did not use the inversion table before work and i noticed that my back was stiffer this morning at work than normal.

although it could have also had to do with me doing my back at the gym yesterday and doing pretty heavy barbell bent over rows.

but i haven't been on it quite as much recently because i've had a sinus headache the past few days, and going upside down with a headache is not fun.

let us know how it feels to you all.

 

[Locut0s]

I wonder how much of this kind of thing ends up being self perpetuating "healing". That is I wonder how often people end up in a situation where nothing is actually healed but where they end up becoming dependant on the therapy to feel normal? And when they stop the therapy their condition gets worse than if they had not started it.

 

[stargazr]

I wonder how much of this kind of thing ends up being self perpetuating "healing". That is I wonder how often people end up in a situation where nothing is actually healed but where they end up becoming dependant on the therapy to feel normal? And when they stop the therapy their condition gets worse than if they had not started it.

No. This relieves pressure on your discs, reversing the effect of gravity. Study the spine.

What you're talking about is a head game. Anybody that feels relief from a head game is not in very much real physical pain.

 

[Locut0s]

No. This relieves pressure on your discs, reversing the effect of gravity. Study the spine.

What you're talking about is a head game. Anybody that feels relief from a head game is not in very much real physical pain.

No I was wondering if it could possibly be similar to people who have blocked sinuses and use nasal sprays then become dependant on them to have a clear sinus at any time.

 

[stargazr]

No I was wondering if it could possibly be similar to people who have blocked sinuses and use nasal sprays then become dependant on them to have a clear sinus at any time.

ahhh, I see. Yeah, I could see how that could become habit-forming. Kind of like some people need to see their chiropractor repeatedly.

 

[purbeast0]

No I was wondering if it could possibly be similar to people who have blocked sinuses and use nasal sprays then become dependant on them to have a clear sinus at any time.

so basically you are saying 2 scenarios.

1. you just have chronic back pain.

2. you relieve the back pain by depending on the treatment, but if you stop, your pain comes back.

i don't see how #2 could be any worse than not doing anything.

i have asthma, and it's kind of like saying don't take advair because while you take it you feel good, but if you stop, your asthma will be bad.

 

[Locut0s]

so basically you are saying 2 scenarios.

1. you just have chronic back pain.

2. you relieve the back pain by depending on the treatment, but if you stop, your pain comes back.

i don't see how #2 could be any worse than not doing anything.

i have asthma, and it's kind of like saying don't take advair because while you take it you feel good, but if you stop, your asthma will be bad.

Actually I'm saying that the pain might not be chronic until you start this kind of treatment. That it's the treatment that may make it chronic and paradoxically also relieve it.

 

[purbeast0]

Actually I'm saying that the pain might not be chronic until you start this kind of treatment. That it's the treatment that may make it chronic and paradoxically also relieve it.

well i guess, but it's pretty easy to find out if you have disc issues that this type of treament will help. a simple MRI will let you know.

but if you are talkin bout like random back pain that you think may treat this, then yea i get what you are saying.

 

[bucwylde23]

well i guess, but it's pretty easy to find out if you have disc issues that this type of treament will help. a simple MRI will let you know.

but if you are talkin bout like random back pain that you think may treat this, then yea i get what you are saying.

I agree with you.. My pain isn't in my head. I have mild disc degeneration in my L5 and if this works it will be worth every penny

 

[eits]

Actually I'm saying that the pain might not be chronic until you start this kind of treatment. That it's the treatment that may make it chronic and paradoxically also relieve it.

almost kinda like using nasal sprays for congestion, for example. the more you use it, the more you'll need to use it just to breathe freely.

i don't know how much research has been done on this subject, but i guess i could imagine that, over time, chronic inversion table use could cause some spinal segment instability by causing some laxity within a couple of the joints. but, like i said, i don't know.

my assumption is that it could, much like getting chiropractic adjustments too often for a long period of time could cause unstable joints.