Slew Foot
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DanTMWTMP
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I have lived in both places. Both have their pro's and cons. I spend my days in SD. I spend my weekends in LA.
i love SD weather, and overall, the people here are really cool. I love the indie music scene here, and everything is just really chill. Of course, LA's night life is superior, but SD has its cool night life if you walk around gaslamp or PB.
Beach bunnies anyone?
There are less Asians in SD than NYC.
There are two Fry's Electronics in SD if you ever need to feel so geeky.
Mexican food! FTW!
I've lived here my entire life and love it. Traffic is becoming much like LA's and I hate that part. I don't mind the cost of living as much as the traffic. Being to other places like NYC and Europe, the public transportation here is horrible and pretty much useless. As someone else stated, expect to drive everywhere.
People are people, I come across plenty of assholes and plenty of nice people. Food is outstanding and there is a lot to do here. Charger & Padres FTW. Who else can get into the playoffs with a record under 500?
People are people, I come across plenty of assholes and plenty of nice people. Food is outstanding and there is a lot to do here. Charger & Padres FTW. Who else can get into the playoffs with a record under 500?
You'd be a fool to pass up the exciting adventure of launching out on your own in San Diego, a pleasant city.
Also:
After decades of mass immigration, California is no longer able to absorb a constant flow of immigrants and still maintain a decent quality of life for its residents.
Since California receives about 25 percent of the nation?s flood of immigration, an astounding one in four Californians are foreign-born. In addition, nearly all of California?s growth is now due to immigration and higher-than-average fertility rates among new immigrants, mostly illegal Mexicans.
If current legal and illegal immigration trends continue, an estimated 60 million people will call California home by 2050.
Roughly 10 percent of Mexico?s population of 107 million resides in the United States, especially California.
Illegal immigration costs the taxpayers of California $10.5 billion a year for education, health care, and incarceration.
Illegal aliens constitute at least 15 - 20 percent or more of California?s school population.
California?s public school system, which once led the nation in education, now stands at or near the bottom of the list. In many parts of the state, schools have drastically deteriorated from trying to meet the needs of a rapidly growing illega; immigration-driven student population.
As of 2005, 25 percent of California?s K-12 enrollment was designated as ?English learners,? 43 percent speak a language other than English at home, and 33 percent live below the poverty line.
Between 1993 and 2003, 60 California hospitals were forced to close from the financial burden of providing free health care for illegal aliens.
Illegal immigrants who enroll in the University of California system are charged lower-cost in-state tuition.
Over half of all Mexicans living in California are here illegally. Or else they get here illegally, have their anchor baby here (citizen by birth), hang on for a few years, then get citizenshiop through amnesty, then bring over their whole families to milk public benefits in California.
In the last decade, 80 to 85 percent of the flow of Mexican immigrants has been illegal.
The H-1B Visa program brings "temporary" high-tech foreign workers (usually computer scientists and programmers) to the U.S. to fill an alleged "shortage" of American Information Technology (IT) workers, especially in California. The high-tech industry vociferously lobbies Congress for increases in the number of H-1B workers as it produces fewer jobs and displaces California workers.
Amnesties, whether presented as ?guest worker programs? or other legislation, reward lawbreaking.
Historically, each time the U.S. government enacted an amnesty, illegal immigration numbers increased sharply thereafter.
The Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA) of 1986 granted amnesty to 2.7 million illegal aliens. The purpose of IRCA was to lower illegal immigration. Instead, illegal immigration increased fivefold, from around 140,000 per year in the 1980s to 700,000 per year today.
Granting amnesty allows access to taxpayer-funded services such as welfare, food stamps, Medicaid, and MediCal, for millions of illegal aliens in California.
One study found that the net cost to the federal government of granting amnesty to 3.8 million illegal aliens would average $5,000 per household, for a total cost of $19 billion.
Congress is currently considering offering amnesty to the estimated 12-20 million illegal aliens living in the United States. A large percentage are in California.
Granting amnesty to illegal immigrants opens the door to many more newcomers, as each person granted citizenship can and does then bring over his/her entire extended family?legally. Simply bringing the parents of each new citizen here means allowing another 24-40 million people to settle in the United States.
All parents of naturalized immigrants are then eligible for citizenship?and therefore also eligible for Medicaid and Social Security benefits, for a total cost to the U.S. government > $18,000 per person.
Current interpretation under the 14th Amendment, every child born on U.S. soil is a U.S. citizen?even if that child is the offspring of illegal aliens. California has whole towns virtually composed of such a population: e.g., Lompoc, Oxnard, Chula Vista, Salinas, plenty more.
The deal is for illegals to get here and have an "Anchor Baby? in the U.S. as soon a possible, to ?anchor? the family in the United States. U.S.-born children provide access for their entire families to social services and government support.
Welcome to California...once one of the paradise spots on the planet, gradually being annexed (by illegal population flooding) to Mexico.
Also:
After decades of mass immigration, California is no longer able to absorb a constant flow of immigrants and still maintain a decent quality of life for its residents.
Since California receives about 25 percent of the nation?s flood of immigration, an astounding one in four Californians are foreign-born. In addition, nearly all of California?s growth is now due to immigration and higher-than-average fertility rates among new immigrants, mostly illegal Mexicans.
If current legal and illegal immigration trends continue, an estimated 60 million people will call California home by 2050.
Roughly 10 percent of Mexico?s population of 107 million resides in the United States, especially California.
Illegal immigration costs the taxpayers of California $10.5 billion a year for education, health care, and incarceration.
Illegal aliens constitute at least 15 - 20 percent or more of California?s school population.
California?s public school system, which once led the nation in education, now stands at or near the bottom of the list. In many parts of the state, schools have drastically deteriorated from trying to meet the needs of a rapidly growing illega; immigration-driven student population.
As of 2005, 25 percent of California?s K-12 enrollment was designated as ?English learners,? 43 percent speak a language other than English at home, and 33 percent live below the poverty line.
Between 1993 and 2003, 60 California hospitals were forced to close from the financial burden of providing free health care for illegal aliens.
Illegal immigrants who enroll in the University of California system are charged lower-cost in-state tuition.
Over half of all Mexicans living in California are here illegally. Or else they get here illegally, have their anchor baby here (citizen by birth), hang on for a few years, then get citizenshiop through amnesty, then bring over their whole families to milk public benefits in California.
In the last decade, 80 to 85 percent of the flow of Mexican immigrants has been illegal.
The H-1B Visa program brings "temporary" high-tech foreign workers (usually computer scientists and programmers) to the U.S. to fill an alleged "shortage" of American Information Technology (IT) workers, especially in California. The high-tech industry vociferously lobbies Congress for increases in the number of H-1B workers as it produces fewer jobs and displaces California workers.
Amnesties, whether presented as ?guest worker programs? or other legislation, reward lawbreaking.
Historically, each time the U.S. government enacted an amnesty, illegal immigration numbers increased sharply thereafter.
The Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA) of 1986 granted amnesty to 2.7 million illegal aliens. The purpose of IRCA was to lower illegal immigration. Instead, illegal immigration increased fivefold, from around 140,000 per year in the 1980s to 700,000 per year today.
Granting amnesty allows access to taxpayer-funded services such as welfare, food stamps, Medicaid, and MediCal, for millions of illegal aliens in California.
One study found that the net cost to the federal government of granting amnesty to 3.8 million illegal aliens would average $5,000 per household, for a total cost of $19 billion.
Congress is currently considering offering amnesty to the estimated 12-20 million illegal aliens living in the United States. A large percentage are in California.
Granting amnesty to illegal immigrants opens the door to many more newcomers, as each person granted citizenship can and does then bring over his/her entire extended family?legally. Simply bringing the parents of each new citizen here means allowing another 24-40 million people to settle in the United States.
All parents of naturalized immigrants are then eligible for citizenship?and therefore also eligible for Medicaid and Social Security benefits, for a total cost to the U.S. government > $18,000 per person.
Current interpretation under the 14th Amendment, every child born on U.S. soil is a U.S. citizen?even if that child is the offspring of illegal aliens. California has whole towns virtually composed of such a population: e.g., Lompoc, Oxnard, Chula Vista, Salinas, plenty more.
The deal is for illegals to get here and have an "Anchor Baby? in the U.S. as soon a possible, to ?anchor? the family in the United States. U.S.-born children provide access for their entire families to social services and government support.
Welcome to California...once one of the paradise spots on the planet, gradually being annexed (by illegal population flooding) to Mexico.
For such a big decision, maybe you should visit San Diego first. I'm surprised your company hasn't flown you out here yet, at least for an on-site interview.
In San Diego he'll have the illegal flood of Mexicans in his face 24/7/52.
So that's how my long rant post connects to his OP.
I dare you to read me
PowerEngineer
Diamond Member
- Oct 22, 2001
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Look at your decision this way...
Just graduating from college with no real responsibilities other than to yourself -- what better time to take on an adventure? What's the worst that can happen if you give San Diego at try? You can always head back to the East Coast after a year or so if you don't like it.
If you decide to play it safe by staying close to home, you'll always wonder how your life might have been different if you'd gone out to San Diego. Go there and you'll know!
:thumbsup:
(but be prepared; housing in SD is very expensive.)
I have lived in the Southern California area for the past 18 years of my life. Initially I lived more inland, then when I started college I moved more towards the coastal area (Irvine). I must say, the weather here in Irvine is some of the best in the world. We just had a couple of days of it being "Hot"....it was 86F. Back when I was at home we had summers of over a hundred and now, after four years of college and coastal weather, I actually thought the 86 degrees F was bad.
SD is much the same as Irvine in terms of weather. I have run the San Diego Marathon (its in June) two times and both times the weather was perfect for the 26.2 miles.
If you move to SD, be prepared to hear your SD friends complain about weather that seems so good to you, but 'freezing' to them. Don't hold it against them though, they are just spoiled.
People are complaining about "lack of culture." Its true to an extent, but if you look you can find what you are interested. For example, if you are into underground bands...they have shows down in SD all the time. A lot of good bands come out of SD and Southern California. You can make the experience you want out of any situation in life. Like my dad always said "its all about attitude, have a good attitude and you will enjoy life a lot more."
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SD is much the same as Irvine in terms of weather. I have run the San Diego Marathon (its in June) two times and both times the weather was perfect for the 26.2 miles.
If you move to SD, be prepared to hear your SD friends complain about weather that seems so good to you, but 'freezing' to them. Don't hold it against them though, they are just spoiled.
People are complaining about "lack of culture." Its true to an extent, but if you look you can find what you are interested. For example, if you are into underground bands...they have shows down in SD all the time. A lot of good bands come out of SD and Southern California. You can make the experience you want out of any situation in life. Like my dad always said "its all about attitude, have a good attitude and you will enjoy life a lot more."
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DainBramaged
Lifer
- Jun 19, 2003
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The environment is some of the best in the world.
No tornadoes, no hurricanes, no freak hail storms, cool for 9/12 months of the year (and even then the heat isn't that bad, low nineties or so and its dry heat. not like that midwest or southern humid-sticky-shirt sticks to your body-heat.)
My parents moved from the midwest 28 years ago. They thought they were gonna move back, but that never happened. Everyone is different, but don't be surprised if Southern California grabs you and holds onto you. Oh yea, and a perk is the beaches...lots of hot girls in tantalizing bikini's. If you don't know what I'm talking about, then you probably live in a state where you don't have beaches.
No tornadoes, no hurricanes, no freak hail storms, cool for 9/12 months of the year (and even then the heat isn't that bad, low nineties or so and its dry heat. not like that midwest or southern humid-sticky-shirt sticks to your body-heat.)
My parents moved from the midwest 28 years ago. They thought they were gonna move back, but that never happened. Everyone is different, but don't be surprised if Southern California grabs you and holds onto you. Oh yea, and a perk is the beaches...lots of hot girls in tantalizing bikini's. If you don't know what I'm talking about, then you probably live in a state where you don't have beaches.
watdahel
Golden Member
NYC is the best city in the world. I'm biased of course. I like all the immigrants. I don't like being the main attraction like at a restaurant in Utah if you catch my drift.
The only thing I don't like with NYC is the winter weather. I'm vacationing in AZ right now. It's extremely hot but I'll take it over freezing. When it's cold it's hard to get up and get going you know.
The only thing I don't like with NYC is the winter weather. I'm vacationing in AZ right now. It's extremely hot but I'll take it over freezing. When it's cold it's hard to get up and get going you know.
I prefer the cold personally. You can always put on more clothes, but you can only take off so much.
My point was that even naked, it can still be really hot. With cold, you can always put on more clothes to where you're at a comfortable temperature. On that note, I wouldn't give up California for many other places either.
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