Just finished 1984

Mo0o

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Overall it was a really good book but i think there's too much squandered potential on a lot of different levels. I think it would have been better if Orwell didn't explain everything right at the beginning, but rather draw the reader into a sense of complacency just like the citizens of oceania. Things like Newspea and the Eastasian/Eurasian war should be there but not fully explained. so the reader can try to figure out WHY there needs to be newspeak and maybe orwell can subtley swtich the war from Eastasian to Eurasian and see if th reader actually catches on. IF anything it'll set up a small mindfvck. then during the interrogation scene everything can be revealed

with the way it's set up now, the climax scene with the interrogation with O'brien doesn't carry it's full weight since everything they talk about in there is what Orwell has alreayd explained. Theres no moment of revelation that astounds you. and as far as the entire book goes, i feel like it doesn't provoke as much thought as Brave New World. Oceania is clearly a defunct government, so it's easy to hate it. The people are miserable, conditions suck, there's nothing good about teh entire establshment. ATleast with Brave New World the citizens are technically "happy" so it's more difficult to argue for its demise.

anyways, my 2c. still a fantastic book that i should hvae read a lot sooner
 

dug777

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I think you've missed a few of the major points Orwell was trying to make..

Just my 2c ;)
 

Mo0o

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Originally posted by: dug777
I think you've missed a few of the major points Orwell was trying to make..

Just my 2c ;)

well i got the points, im just saying the book itself could have been more exciting while still retaining the message
 

Icepick

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Even though it was written decades ago, is it still worth reading today? I mean is it entertaining at all? Are the points still relevant? I've been thinking about picking this one up to see what all the fuss is about since I hear it quoted a lot in the media. I'll pass on it if the consensus is that it's lame...
 

2Xtreme21

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Originally posted by: Icepick
Even though it was written decades ago, is it still worth reading today? I mean is it entertaining at all? Are the points still relevant? I've been thinking about picking this one up to see what all the fuss is about since I hear it quoted a lot in the media. I'll pass on it if the consensus is that it's lame...

Hell. Yes.

Probably one of the best books I've ever read.
 

Icepick

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Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Originally posted by: Icepick
Even though it was written decades ago, is it still worth reading today? I mean is it entertaining at all? Are the points still relevant? I've been thinking about picking this one up to see what all the fuss is about since I hear it quoted a lot in the media. I'll pass on it if the consensus is that it's lame...

Hell. Yes.

Probably one of the best books I've ever read.

cool. Maybe I'll take the plunge then.
 

everman

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It's still a good book, the ending is good albeit depressing. I think it's even more relevant today than it was at initial publication.
 

silent tone

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Originally posted by: Kromis
Now that you've finished 1984...

Watch V for Vendetta!
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Chancellor Sutler was Winston in the film adaptation of 1984, just throwing that out there.
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: Bootprint
Don't forget it was written for a 1940/50's audience.

also don't forget many are just coming of age to read such a book.

I really don't get a lot of today's young society throwing out everything prior to them. True history always has a place.

I will admit many do not care about that though and just want to live as extremely as they can, and there is nothing wrong with that.
 

DaShen

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Originally posted by: dug777
I think you've missed a few of the major points Orwell was trying to make..

Just my 2c ;)

Bingo.... also, you have to realize that these Cold War books were written to express these Cold War ideas and philosophies.
 

Kromis

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Originally posted by: silent tone
Originally posted by: Kromis
Now that you've finished 1984...

Watch V for Vendetta!
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Chancellor Sutler was Winston in the film adaptation of 1984, just throwing that out there.

Yep, I think they did that on purpose.