Originally posted by: Xavier434
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Pssst, the illegals are not just in California. This is an everywhere problem.
This.
Does anyone want to talk about how Texas sets up their real borders 100 miles from their actual state borders in order to keep the cheap illegal labor in the state but away from the major cities? Next we can talk about how they hardly offer any social services to help out their legal citizens progress which also means that the illegals don't get jack either. Punish the legals to restrict the illegals? Meh...
The bottom line is that we are in way too deep over our heads. The process to become a legal citizen takes years and can be expensive. We have tons of illegals here which become legal after being here so long anyways. Their kids automatically become citizens which is all most of them ever hope for anyways. Our border patrols are not effective enough to really put a lid on the problem. The government and our people will NEVER search for them proactively and send them back home because it separates families and in some cases all we would be doing is sending them back home to go straight to prison (see Cuba). We all know they could do that if they really wanted to, but the reality of situation is that such an idea ever making it through legislation and signed into law is a pipe dream and might as well be forgotten.
I think we should start by doing two things. First, come up with a very efficient border patrol plan. Second, a complete overhaul of the system so that becoming legal is far more efficient, faster, and much cheaper. These two things need to be done simultaneously. Both of those parts are extremely important because that puts a lid on the problem and sets us up to effectively fix the current issues already within our borders. This overhaul will include making the current standards for NEW people trying to become a citizen from the outside much higher. I don't see any other way to heavily reduce the number of illegals coming into the country to the point where it is much more reasonable. As long as this country is a great place to be, they will continue to pour in unless we do that.
Next, we need to cut our losses somewhat. Since we will never see hardly any of the illegals sent home, we would be in a better off doing whatever we can to convince as many of them as possible to come forth and go through the process of becoming legal. We need to make the process for them very cheap if not free and we need to make the process faster which was what the overhaul was all about. If they are criminals then they don't Pass Go, but pretty much all of the other ones get in.
Now, I know a lot of conservatives really hate that cutting the losses idea but let's face the facts. They are already here leeching off the system and they are never going home at any rate that exceeds that which they are coming in. I hate it too, but we need to accept it. Allowing these people to basically be grandfathered into the system as long as they do not have a criminal record can only help us because then we will see them paying more in taxes and less will be able to abuse social service. Remember, just because they are illegal that doesn't mean they are lazy or poor and those that are....again, they are already here and they are here to stay.
, and Native Americans. In the 1850's the goldrushers were putting Indians into slavery in CALI. They also killed a lot of them.
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