Just Cause 2 to use GPGPU(CUDA)

[Lonbjerg]

So all those people thinking physics and graphics are 2 seperates issues, with no connection at all or that GPGPU has nothing to do with gaming...sorry, you where wrong:

http://kotaku.com/5484795/just-cause-2-pc-loves-on-nvidia

A Video of the water effects:
http://kotaku.com/5484795/just-cause-2-pc-loves-on-nvidia

NOTE: this is NOT PhysX, so if you post about PhysX...you just lost.

and before the horde of red whiners come in...take a place in the line...AFTER the console-kiddies(they have a much better right tio whine than you guys)

The PC version is enhanced in the following ways…

• Enhanced DirectX10 and 10.1 render path
• Support for 32Bit and 64Bit Windows 7 and Vista
• Optimized for Dual and Quad Core Processors
• Certified for Nvidia 3D Vision (Not available on console)
• Support for Window and Full Screen modes
• Enhanced for SLi
• Enhanced for Crossfire
• Enhanced for multi-screen setup (Not available on console)
• Full Keyboard and Mouse support
• Xbox360 Controller Support
• Enhanced GPU Water effect for Nvidia Systems (Not available on console or with ATI GPU)
• Enhanced Bokeh filter for Nvidia Systems (Not available on console)
• Increased detail setting (Not available on console)
• Soft Shadows (Not available on console)
• Soft Particles (Not available on console)
• Point Specular (Not available on console)
• SSAO (Not available on console)
• Benchmark Mode (Not available on console)
• DLC support via Steamworks
• Achievements via Steamworks
• Auto patching via Steamworks
• Ability to chat to other gamers via Steamworks while playing

So now, NVIDIA is using GPGPU in games, like in their techdemos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1I4kts5mqc

So GPGPU computing is moving into games....wo would have thought? ()

And before the red chorus of "WAAAAAHMbulances arrives....ask AMD to make the same OpenCL or DirectCompute...oh wait

This game is DX10.1...No Direct Comupte 4..or maximum OpenCL...only CUDA gives the tools for the job...unless you want to make the game DX11...and no GPGPU for all DX10.1 and DX10 cards...of any brand.

AMD - We are still waiting for you to do anything...besides talk. :hmm:

And this once again hows how important the TWIMTPB program is...AMD needs to learn or the decription of a AMD GPU owner will be:
Whining over features not running on his AMD GPU...

And wecome to GPGPU in games...The CUDA effect are listed in GREEN in the list.

There is more flamebait in this thread that I've seen in a long time.
Locked for mod review. Lonbjerg, this could also be considered a callout thread towards AMD/ATI fans. Or as you put it (red whiners). Do not do this again please.
Anandtech Moderator - Keysplayr

 

[Ben90]

This thread is going to be so interesting!

 

[Lonbjerg]

This thread is going to be so interesting!

Yup, want to wager to some peeps will confuse this with PhysX?
(Hint: There is NO PhysX in this game...at all!)

 

[Blue Shift]

If you'll share the popcorn, I've got a spare chair.

 

[badb0y]

What exactly are you trying to prove here?

 

[Lonbjerg]

What exactly are you trying to prove here?

That not al games are simple ports.
Some developers actually uses the extra power of the PC.
And AMD is dragging it's feet in GPGPU...since 2006.

And GPGPU and gaming will be more linked in the future.

 

[at80eighty]

no kidding dude. I actually pity the OP

 

[sciwizam]

AMD - We are still waiting for you to do anything...besides talk. :hmm:

 

[badb0y]

That not al games are simple ports.
Some developers actually uses the extra power of the PC.
And AMD is dragging it's feet in GPGPU...since 2006.

And GPGPU and gaming will be more linked in the future.

I have to see a side by side comparison between an nVidia card and an AMD card running that game to say whether it makes a huge difference in the way the water looks.

One thing I will say is that the water looks great and if that can be done only using a nVidia card, then kudos to them for achieving such a feat.

 

[Lonbjerg]

I have to see a side by side comparison between an nVidia card and an AMD card running that game to say whether it makes a huge difference in the way the water looks.

One thing I will say is that the water looks great and if that can be done only using a nVidia card, then kudos to them for achieving such a feat.

It's in the video...On = NVIDIA water OFF = AMD water.

 

[Lonbjerg]

So more space to push dead worlds on....*shrugs*
What will your excuse be next month?
"I don't need better graphics because my sight is impaired"?

 

[MarcVenice]

Wow, the OP is just trying to get flamed, or what? At least he doesn't hide his love for Nvidia

So enhanced water effect, yay! Soon DX11 games will have water that looks awesome because of tesselation. The particles and their behavior will most likely be calculated by opencl or directcompute.

It's nice to see Nvidia do something with Cuda btw, but the way you try to convey this is almost hilarious.

 

[thilanliyan]

Good looking game...hopefully it's actually a good game.

 

[SmCaudata]

So we get better looking water after how many years of CUDA being around? OPEN standards are what 99% of gamemakers adopt. With DX11 having tesselation and openCL and DirectCompute I have a feeling there will be maybe one or two meaningful uses of Nvidia proprietary GPGPU usage in a game over the next few years.

 

[Lonbjerg]

Wow, the OP is just trying to get flamed, or what? At least he doesn't hide his love for Nvidia

When AIT(now AMD) has been promising GPGPU since 2006...and delivered a big nothing, sure I take sides.

So enhanced water effect, yay! Soon DX11 games will have water that looks awesome because of tesselation. The particles and their behavior will most likely be calculated by opencl or directcompute.

You are forgetting the nasty DX10.x limitations...big no-no....this is not a DX11 game.

But keep beliving that AMD will do something...someday.

So we get better looking water after how many years of CUDA being around? OPEN standards are what 99% of gamemakers adopt. With DX11 having tesselation and openCL and DirectCompute I have a feeling there will be maybe one or two meaningful uses of Nvidia proprietary GPGPU usage in a game over the next few years.

You forget one important fact.
Under DX10/DX10.1 ...CUDA is in a leauge of it's own.
For OpenCL/DirectCompute you need DX11 hardware to match the level of this CUDA...effectively making this type of effect either limited to DX11 for AMD...and "limited" to DX11/DX10.1/DX10 for NVIDIA.

But keep beliving in OpenCL/DirectCompute...it is just confirming what I said:
The leuage of whiners has arrived...empty handed

 

[Kuzi]

Impressive effects. Soon there will be many more similar and better effects done on DX11/OpenCL.

 

[sciwizam]

The leuage of whiners has arrived...empty handed

Seriously, this is too easy.

 

[cbn]

Some developers actually uses the extra power of the PC.
And AMD is dragging it's feet in GPGPU...since 2006.

And GPGPU and gaming will be more linked in the future.

I would like to see ATI more involved with GPGPU. As consumers, none of use wants to see a monopoly take hold.

 

[cbn]

For OpenCL/DirectCompute you need DX11 hardware to match the level of this CUDA...effectively making this type of effect either limited to DX11 for AMD...and "limited" to DX11/DX10.1/DX10 for NVIDIA.

So DX11 ATI hardware can accomplish this? Why are we getting exciting about this then?

 

[toyota]

all that work and that couldnt even make decent textures for the whole game?

 

[cbn]

all that work and that couldnt even make decent textures for the whole game?

I think the OP's news would have been a whole lot better if this game was DX11, Full tessellation and GPGPU.

As it stands now this game is not exactly cutting edge from my viewpoint. Still it might be worth a look anyway. It sort of reminds me of the original Far Cry.

 

[toyota]

I think the OP's news would have been a whole lot better if this game was DX11, Full tessellation and GPGPU.

As it stands now this game is not exactly cutting edge from my viewpoint. Still it might be worth a look anyway. It sort of reminds me of the original Far Cry.

I am just tired of developers worrying about small details when we dont even get decent textures in games. 2010 effects dont mean much when some of the graphics are from 2003.

btw the gameplay is like a mixture of RF Guerrilla, GTA 4, and Mercenaries 2.

 

[Kuzi]

They are DX10/DX10.1 cards after all, their power is getting very limited these days. So they can add advanced effects to certain elements in the world (water?), but other areas have to be cut back. Otherwise you get a nice slideshow

 

[toyota]

They are DX10/DX10.1 cards after all, their power is getting very limited these days. So they can add advanced effects to certain elements in the world (water?), but other areas have to be cut back. Otherwise you get a nice slideshow

well they should at least have the option for hi res textures. I mean there are places in the game that look horrific for a modern title.

 

[at80eighty]

seriously - there is only so much armchair applause you can do for spiffy water effects, when the rest of the game looks like a grue ate most of the textures.