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just bought warcraft3 yesterday... wow!!! what did ya like/dislike about the game?
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If there is no sea warfare that IMO is the worst thing they could have done. That was one thing that I loved about AoE. There was more than one way to win a battle, ie you could beat a opponent into submission with naval warfare and then have your troops come in and wipe them out. I havent decided if I will buy this game but if I do it will be when it hits the 35 price point at BB.... Another thing have they improved the interface yet? One of the best things it liked about AoE2 was the interface, it was one of the best ones I used and some of the buttons like to see whos not doing anything for instance.
There's no sea warfare - only air warfare.
The game is actually better single than multiplayer thus far for me, so I'd say yes.
Did anyone notice how they recycled a bunch of ideas from starcraft? e.g. the undead summon buildings like the protoss and have to build on the blight much like the zerg creep. Plus the undead have the invisible probe unit.
The game is actually better single than multiplayer thus far for me, so I'd say yes.
Did anyone notice how they recycled a bunch of ideas from starcraft? e.g. the undead summon buildings like the protoss and have to build on the blight much like the zerg creep. Plus the undead have the invisible probe unit.
SmackdownHotel
Golden Member
It's good. Get it.
prontospyder
Diamond Member
anybody think Blizzard will add sea units in the expansion pack? 🙂
Maleficus
Diamond Member
*Humans*
***Sturdy Construction
Humans can improve the armor and durability of their structures at the Lumber Mill with the Improved Masonry technologies. Each upgrade provides increasing armor and hit points to the Alliance buildings.
Is this even worth mentioning? Towers are fairly worthless and even if i have every single building left standing, if the enemy kills all my troops what good are all my buildings?
***The Humans are the masters of Invisibility.
Then why are night elf the ones who are always invisible at night?
***The Humans' Defend ability is very effective vs ranged troops.
That's all good and well for SURVIVING the beginning of the game, but once you get further into the game what good does this do you when your struggling to survive with your knights?
Footmen seem a tad weak to me.
Knights should take 1 less food or something, sorry i cant be more precise on what i think should be done on this one but they seem weak for their cost/time.
FARMS SUCK MAJORLY, everything has some sort of ability and provides 10 food, just because farms cost less it is not justified, farms suck.
*Orcs*
I have no real complaints about the orcs except that the tauren might be a tad too strong with bloodlust for human, but of course that goes back to fixing the humans 🙂
I also think the tauren cheiftan hero sucks but other people disagreeso we'll chalk this one up 2 personal preference 🙂.
*Undead*
No real problems here EXCEPT the heros.
Undead are fairly gimped in the hero department
Animate Dead can't really compare to resurrection.
Carrion Swarm is just like shockwave and I think they both suck but thats ok because the dread lord has sleep which makes up for it in its eternal annoyance of other players 🙂
The Lich aka gimpy. Ultimate Death and Decay!?!?!? HIS ULTIMATE ABILITY IS TO CUT DOWN TREES!?!?!?!?!?!? WTF!?!?!?!?!?!
*Night Elf*
Alas we have come to the wonderful Night Elf, The uber powered race.
***Wisps - They are the cheapest, they can harvest both wood and gold and do not have to move them anywhere they just collect instantly. They can detonate and dispel buffs and ALMOST kill skeleton warriors, also drains mana. Sure seems like a lot to me for a peon, not to mention the cheapest.
***Moonwells - the best of all the "houses" other things can be used for defense and others are worthless (farms) but these wonderful things can heal you instantly, What losing a battle in your base? swarm your moonwells and have all your units be instantly rejuvenated and ready to kill the oncoming forces!!! 175/40 for 500 HP and that ability to heal life and mana instantaneously while the orcs get the burrow that ate 170/50 and can be defense, only at the cost of losing all production of resources though... Ziggurats cost 150/50 just to be a worthless amount of 10 food, then an ADDITIONAL 120/40 to be defensive...
***Archers - Cheap, Lots of damage, ranged. most basic unit. Stick just 2 or 3 anythings in front of em to absorb the damage and they tear things up.
***Dryads - Slow PASSIVE, Spell Immunity, Abolish Magic autocast. Kills heros cause they cant get away, Kills troops easy in combination with other things and alone because they are slowed and taking damage from the attack. Any buffs they have will be taken care of as well.
*** Druid of the Claw - Spellcasting knight killers for only 10 more gold and 20 more wood? Seem a little strong to me here too
***Preistess of the Moon aka god - Scout - invulnerable scout, umm ok sure lets give them the abilitity to see everything without the nme being able to do anything about it at level 1, and its not like farsight where u use it 3 times at lvl 1 to see all the nme in a small game, no this u can just fly over all three of there bases and there is nothing they can do about it.
searing shot + trushot, lvl 7 this RANGED attacking hero is doing the most average damage with this 2 things for only 8 mana a shot not to mention her barrage of other ranged units helping her doing that extra 15%
Starfall - 1 unit of night elf consisting of a preistess of the moon, 4 dryads, 4 archers, 3 druids of the claw took out 16 taurens. All fully upgraded units, that means that with these 12 units (i had time 2 starfall 2 times) we did over 20800 damage before we died... Granted they do not kill EVERYTHING, now they leave the buildings, but as i stated earlier what good are your buildings if you have nothing to defend with and the enemy has long broken through your gates?
***Sturdy Construction
Humans can improve the armor and durability of their structures at the Lumber Mill with the Improved Masonry technologies. Each upgrade provides increasing armor and hit points to the Alliance buildings.
Is this even worth mentioning? Towers are fairly worthless and even if i have every single building left standing, if the enemy kills all my troops what good are all my buildings?
***The Humans are the masters of Invisibility.
Then why are night elf the ones who are always invisible at night?
***The Humans' Defend ability is very effective vs ranged troops.
That's all good and well for SURVIVING the beginning of the game, but once you get further into the game what good does this do you when your struggling to survive with your knights?
Footmen seem a tad weak to me.
Knights should take 1 less food or something, sorry i cant be more precise on what i think should be done on this one but they seem weak for their cost/time.
FARMS SUCK MAJORLY, everything has some sort of ability and provides 10 food, just because farms cost less it is not justified, farms suck.
*Orcs*
I have no real complaints about the orcs except that the tauren might be a tad too strong with bloodlust for human, but of course that goes back to fixing the humans 🙂
I also think the tauren cheiftan hero sucks but other people disagreeso we'll chalk this one up 2 personal preference 🙂.
*Undead*
No real problems here EXCEPT the heros.
Undead are fairly gimped in the hero department
Animate Dead can't really compare to resurrection.
Carrion Swarm is just like shockwave and I think they both suck but thats ok because the dread lord has sleep which makes up for it in its eternal annoyance of other players 🙂
The Lich aka gimpy. Ultimate Death and Decay!?!?!? HIS ULTIMATE ABILITY IS TO CUT DOWN TREES!?!?!?!?!?!? WTF!?!?!?!?!?!
*Night Elf*
Alas we have come to the wonderful Night Elf, The uber powered race.
***Wisps - They are the cheapest, they can harvest both wood and gold and do not have to move them anywhere they just collect instantly. They can detonate and dispel buffs and ALMOST kill skeleton warriors, also drains mana. Sure seems like a lot to me for a peon, not to mention the cheapest.
***Moonwells - the best of all the "houses" other things can be used for defense and others are worthless (farms) but these wonderful things can heal you instantly, What losing a battle in your base? swarm your moonwells and have all your units be instantly rejuvenated and ready to kill the oncoming forces!!! 175/40 for 500 HP and that ability to heal life and mana instantaneously while the orcs get the burrow that ate 170/50 and can be defense, only at the cost of losing all production of resources though... Ziggurats cost 150/50 just to be a worthless amount of 10 food, then an ADDITIONAL 120/40 to be defensive...
***Archers - Cheap, Lots of damage, ranged. most basic unit. Stick just 2 or 3 anythings in front of em to absorb the damage and they tear things up.
***Dryads - Slow PASSIVE, Spell Immunity, Abolish Magic autocast. Kills heros cause they cant get away, Kills troops easy in combination with other things and alone because they are slowed and taking damage from the attack. Any buffs they have will be taken care of as well.
*** Druid of the Claw - Spellcasting knight killers for only 10 more gold and 20 more wood? Seem a little strong to me here too
***Preistess of the Moon aka god - Scout - invulnerable scout, umm ok sure lets give them the abilitity to see everything without the nme being able to do anything about it at level 1, and its not like farsight where u use it 3 times at lvl 1 to see all the nme in a small game, no this u can just fly over all three of there bases and there is nothing they can do about it.
searing shot + trushot, lvl 7 this RANGED attacking hero is doing the most average damage with this 2 things for only 8 mana a shot not to mention her barrage of other ranged units helping her doing that extra 15%
Starfall - 1 unit of night elf consisting of a preistess of the moon, 4 dryads, 4 archers, 3 druids of the claw took out 16 taurens. All fully upgraded units, that means that with these 12 units (i had time 2 starfall 2 times) we did over 20800 damage before we died... Granted they do not kill EVERYTHING, now they leave the buildings, but as i stated earlier what good are your buildings if you have nothing to defend with and the enemy has long broken through your gates?
I don't like the Undead very much.
Many spells don't seem all that useful to me. And it's too difficult to find your hero during battle to cast it effectively.
Units have too many hit points. They spend a long time whacking at each other until one dies. I would like to see more units, less hit points. I guess I'm too used to the Zerg from Starcraft.
I'll add comments more when I'm done with the game. I'm on the Orc campaign right now.
and by the way, allyourbasearebelongtous!
Many spells don't seem all that useful to me. And it's too difficult to find your hero during battle to cast it effectively.
Units have too many hit points. They spend a long time whacking at each other until one dies. I would like to see more units, less hit points. I guess I'm too used to the Zerg from Starcraft.
I'll add comments more when I'm done with the game. I'm on the Orc campaign right now.
and by the way, allyourbasearebelongtous!
Yeah, I think the undead really do suck at the start of the game. Ghouls are useless, only good for harvesting lumber. And the crypt fiends cost too much. But try and stop a pack of abominations, meat wagons and necros, and youre going to have a battle on your hands. You only have to survive long enough to get them though...
Blizzard did a great job on the game, its a masterpiece. For once I dont feel like I'm fighting with the interface, and I'm finding that I use the spells far more often than I did in SC. Autocast is an absolute godsend, and its the way it should be done. Lets me concentrate on the battle instead of doing stuff that should be done for me. Plus the subgrouping is also excellent. Round up your troops with a hero, and you have the hero's spells by default, and a tab will take you to the next group and their spells.
This game going to be the end of me. Its just too good. If blizz would make SC for this engine, I'd think I would have died and gone to heaven.
Blizzard did a great job on the game, its a masterpiece. For once I dont feel like I'm fighting with the interface, and I'm finding that I use the spells far more often than I did in SC. Autocast is an absolute godsend, and its the way it should be done. Lets me concentrate on the battle instead of doing stuff that should be done for me. Plus the subgrouping is also excellent. Round up your troops with a hero, and you have the hero's spells by default, and a tab will take you to the next group and their spells.
This game going to be the end of me. Its just too good. If blizz would make SC for this engine, I'd think I would have died and gone to heaven.
You know how in most games the texture detail kind of goes off in the distance? It doesnt in WC3, and the far away textures are all shimmery. Its really hard to tell in game because of the perspective, but in the cinemas its clear as daylight.
I thought mipmapping was necessary for decent performance?
I thought mipmapping was necessary for decent performance?
kami
Lifer
Nope...this is what's in it.
First of all, it's a huge sturdy kickass box...felt-lined inside 🙂
Warcraft 3 CD-Rom - duh
Warcraft 3 Soundtrack CD - haven't listened yet
Warcraft 3 DVD - contains all game cinematics in 16x9 widescreen with dolby digital 5.1 sound, all 3 warcraft3 trailers, a trailer and gameplay preview for worlds of warcraft, and trailers for most of blizzard's previous games. also has optional commentary by the cinematics or story design team, as well as some other special features like a trivia game, war3 background, and some other crap i forget.
Art of Warcraft - a sweetass book full of war2 and war3 concept sketches, 3d renderings, and other images...it's 11x14 inches and about 160 pages. really sweet
Collector's manual - nothing really special about it
Four 8x10 lithographs (each is a different race) - pretty good quality..suitable for framing
It's SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!
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