Just bought some Bones swiss bearings

[Akebona]

35 bux for 8, so I bought 16 of them for my rollerblades. I play rollerhockey and was told that these bearings are really fast. I got the Super 6 bearings, I think one step below the highest end which use ceramic balls, those are like 10 bux per bearing and there was no way in hell I was gonna spend that much. Anyone heard of these? I think I got a decent price on them according to alot of the store online.

 

[notfred]

bearings are bearings. The only way you'll ever really notice a difference in speed is if you switch between grease packed bearings and oiled bearings.
Edit: and yes, new, clean bearings are faster than old rusty ones full of dirt, but brand name hardly makes a difference in rollerblade/skateboard bearings.

 

[AMG]

needle > ball bearings

 

[ElFenix]

i got some bearings to replace the bushings that were in the steering linkage of my rc car... half of them were bad

 

[AMG]

:beer:

whoops mis post

 

[Akebona]

Originally posted by: notfred
bearings are bearings. The only way you'll ever really notice a difference in speed is if you switch between grease packed bearings and oiled bearings.
Edit: and yes, new, clean bearings are faster than old rusty ones full of dirt, but brand name hardly makes a difference in rollerblade/skateboard bearings.

thats odd, i've heard nothing but praise about these. so you're telling me i can just get some generic brand bearings and they will be the same as say "professional" rollerbladers that race?? i dont buy that one bit.

 

bearings are bearings. The only way you'll ever really notice a difference in speed is if you switch between grease packed bearings and oiled bearings.
Edit: and yes, new, clean bearings are faster than old rusty ones full of dirt, but brand name hardly makes a difference in rollerblade/skateboard bearings.

*cough*BULLSH!T*cough*

I hope you rollerblade/skateboard everyday, for the past 10 years to make a claim like that.

Akebona: what is the ABEC rating on them? I hope its 5, because thoes are expensive.

 

[notfred]

Originally posted by: Akebona

Originally posted by: notfred
bearings are bearings. The only way you'll ever really notice a difference in speed is if you switch between grease packed bearings and oiled bearings.
Edit: and yes, new, clean bearings are faster than old rusty ones full of dirt, but brand name hardly makes a difference in rollerblade/skateboard bearings.

thats odd, i've heard nothing but praise about these. so you're telling me i can just get some generic brand bearings and they will be the same as say "professional" rollerbladers that race?? i dont buy that one bit.

If you buy any half decent brand of bearings with decent quality control in thier factory, I doubt you're really going to notice any difference between bearings. The dirt you'll get in them in the first 20 minutes of riding around will be more significant than the differences between bearings from different factories.

 

If you buy any half decent brand of bearings with decent quality control in thier factory, I doubt you're really going to notice any difference between bearings. The dirt you'll get in them in the first 20 minutes of riding around will be more significant than the differences between bearings from different factories.

There is an ABEC rating system for bearings used on blade/boards.
Also, more expensive bearings are sealed off so they can't get dirty.

I, personally can tell the difference from non-ABEC and ABEC 3-5 bearings.

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: notfred

Originally posted by: Akebona

Originally posted by: notfred
bearings are bearings. The only way you'll ever really notice a difference in speed is if you switch between grease packed bearings and oiled bearings.
Edit: and yes, new, clean bearings are faster than old rusty ones full of dirt, but brand name hardly makes a difference in rollerblade/skateboard bearings.

thats odd, i've heard nothing but praise about these. so you're telling me i can just get some generic brand bearings and they will be the same as say "professional" rollerbladers that race?? i dont buy that one bit.

If you buy any half decent brand of bearings with decent quality control in thier factory, I doubt you're really going to notice any difference between bearings. The dirt you'll get in them in the first 20 minutes of riding around will be more significant than the differences between bearings from different factories.

Um.. I used to rollerblade like 3-4 years ago... The higher the ABEC rating the better they are.

I used to use ABEC-5s for when I used to agressive skate and roller hockey like 5 years ago. Try using Abec 1's after you use Abec 5's or even Abec 3's you'll notice the difference.

 

Um.. I used to rollerblade like 3-4 years ago... The higher the ABEC rating the better they are.

I used to use ABEC-5s for when I used to agressive skate and roller hockey like 5 years ago. Try using Abec 1's after you use Abec 5's or even Abec 3's you'll notice the difference.

Exactly.

notfred: This is the NOW man, stop living in the yesterday. 😉

 

[Platypus]

Bones are abec 7. Though I thought they were just for skateboards.

 

[notfred]

Originally posted by: SammySon

If you buy any half decent brand of bearings with decent quality control in thier factory, I doubt you're really going to notice any difference between bearings. The dirt you'll get in them in the first 20 minutes of riding around will be more significant than the differences between bearings from different factories.

There is an ABEC rating system for bearings used on blade/boards.
Also, more expensive bearings are sealed off so they can't get dirty.

I, personally can tell the difference from non-ABEC and ABEC 3-5 bearings.

Article
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Why bones bearings arent abec rated
ABEC specs


ABEC ratings have nothing to do with skateboards or rollerblades.

 

[Nocturnal]

Trust me you can tell a HUGE difference between the different ABEC ratings.

I used to skate a long time ago and I could easily tell the difference from say going from ABEC 1 to ABEC 3 which was the norm back then.

I once had ABEC 5 bearings and they were SUPER fast but they easily smashed in or caved in. I was heavily into agressive rollerblading.

You will be able to tell a big difference, even if it's just for street hockey.

 

[Eli]

notfred - you have a very basic view of many things, it seems. 😛

Bearings are not bearings. There are huge differences in them.

You are right, though, that ABEC ratings don't have anything to do with rollerblades/skateboards.

 

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Why bones bearings arent abec rated
ABEC specs


ABEC ratings have nothing to do with skateboards or rollerblades.

You're caught up in technicalities. I've been skating since I was 9, I can tell the difference.
I'm not ducussing the technical merits of the rating system of bearings, or the tolerances to high speed rotation.
It comes down to, a bearing is NOT a bearing is NOT a bearing is NOT a bearing.

 

[Akebona]

Originally posted by: notfred

Originally posted by: SammySon

If you buy any half decent brand of bearings with decent quality control in thier factory, I doubt you're really going to notice any difference between bearings. The dirt you'll get in them in the first 20 minutes of riding around will be more significant than the differences between bearings from different factories.

There is an ABEC rating system for bearings used on blade/boards.
Also, more expensive bearings are sealed off so they can't get dirty.

I, personally can tell the difference from non-ABEC and ABEC 3-5 bearings.

Article
Another article
Why bones bearings arent abec rated
ABEC specs


ABEC ratings have nothing to do with skateboards or rollerblades.

A great links to the articles, thanks. ABEC in a way does have something to do with rollerblade/skates though, the industry like to use those standards to make people pay more for how precise the bearings were made. Kinda like AMD and Intel, saying that AMD is a 2000+ is in the same ball park as saying some bearings are ABEC 5 or ABEC 7's.

 

[Akebona]

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Bones are abec 7. Though I thought they were just for skateboards.

yah, i thought they were too, but then someone told me to get them b/c they're pretty fast. Anyhow, I just put them on my blades and they seem to spin pretty fast. I guess I'll have to see tonight at my hockey game.

 

[notfred]

Originally posted by: SammySon

Article
Another article
Why bones bearings arent abec rated
ABEC specs


ABEC ratings have nothing to do with skateboards or rollerblades.

You're caught up in technicalities. I've been skating since I was 9, I can tell the difference.
I'm not ducussing the technical merits of the rating system of bearings, or the tolerances to high speed rotation.
It comes down to, a bearing is NOT a bearing is NOT a bearing is NOT a bearing.

I'm sure some bearings wear better than others, and some are better at keeping dirt out than others, but I've yet to see any noticeable difference in speed between new sets of bearings made by anyone that I'd ever heard of, and I've bought plenty of skateboard bearings in my life.

 

I'm sure some bearings wear better than others, and some are better at keeping dirt out than others, but I've yet to see any noticeable difference in speed between new sets of bearings made by anyone that I'd ever heard of, and I've bought plenty of skateboard bearings in my life.

To each their own.
The difference is noticable, I guess, to thoes who take it to the next level.

 

[MrCodeDude]

I still have Golden Swiss Bearings in my old Ferland skates.. Too bad the skates don't fit anymore, I remember paying out the ass for the bearings though. They were like $60..
-- mrcodedude

 

[notfred]

Originally posted by: SammySon

I'm sure some bearings wear better than others, and some are better at keeping dirt out than others, but I've yet to see any noticeable difference in speed between new sets of bearings made by anyone that I'd ever heard of, and I've bought plenty of skateboard bearings in my life.

To each their own.
The difference is noticable, I guess, to thoes who take it to the next level.

What next level is that? The same next level as the one "audiophiles" are on when they claim they can tell the difference between a 256kbps MP3 and the CD?

 

What next level is that? The same next level as the one "audiophiles" are on when they claim they can tell the difference between a 256kbps MP3 and the CD?

I'm not sure you can compare a persons ability to hear, with their athletic ability. Nice analogy, would be better if both were on the same page, ie. athletics. Nearly every human is given the same range of hearing ability, but not the same range of physical ability.

Take a baseball players bat, or a hockey players stick. Make that same analogy. Tell them that they can't tell the difference between their regularly used equipment and another piece.

Your original statement was bearings are bearings, and they are not, just like the articles you posted said.
I can't argue your ABEC statement and proof posted.
Personally I have a few specific skateboarding brands I use, the ABEC rating does not make a difference in my purchase decision though.
If you give me a set of bearings from a cheap pair of roller blades, and a pair of lucky's made for boarding, there will be a VERY BIG difference.
Placebo? Possibly, but after 15 years of experience I know there is a huge difference in bearing quality.