Just bought RA2..........hate it.

Ben

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Let's see. Where do I start.

First of all, let me say that I love Tiberian Sun.

So I'm amazed that I hate RA2 so much.

The accelerated speed of the game sucks. You can loose a large thriving base in minutes! You can loose squadrons of vehicles in 5 seconds. It's impossible to keep an eye on everything. It's like this, you tell your vehicles to attack a part of the map. You come back to your base, and "suprise", 5 conscripts have taken out your ore refinery (somehow). You kill them. Then you check up on the vehicles you dispatched earlier. "Suprise" again, their all dead because they came across a batch of enemy vehicles that appeared out of nowhere.

The weapons are outrageously powerful, the buildings and vehicles are outrageously weak. I don't think 4 or 5 conscripts with machine guns should be able to destroy my war factory in 15 seconds. I don't think that two submarines should be able to destroy my aircraft carrier in 10 seconds.

The graphic detail is screwey. The buildings and the scenery are very detailed. The vehicles are not very detailed. In fact, some of them look lame, really lame. Like 5-years-ago-graphics lame.

The AI sucks!!! I watched my units (which I told to "guard") sit on their ass within shooting distance of enemy units, and kick-back while the enemy destroys my buildings. You have to practically hold their hand, "kill that guy, now kill that guy, now pick your nose". This is especially true for all the water-based vehicles.

Typical to Red Alert fashion, the first few missions are relatively easy, then you are given a practically impossible mission to complete. I played the first four or five missions through the first time. Then I come across a mission where I have to defend Hawaii. I've played it about 10 times now. I can't pass it. It's getting old. I'm not having fun, I want to fold the game CD in half.

The ONLY reason I have tried so many times is because I want to see what happens next in the story. But at this rate, I'm losing interest fast.

Man I LOVED Tiberian Sun and Tiberian Sun Firestorm. How can this game suck so bad?
 

duragezic

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Hmmm, that sucks.

I'm not sure to buy it but with this post it makes me not want to. Thanks for the heads-up on some of the problems. I know a patch could be released to fix minor things, but I doubt they will be changing the strength of buildings or units much.

That's not good because I got bored of TS though I did find TS to be great in spite of how much everyone else hated it. But now RA2 comes alone and I didn't even like it much since it was announced. I think there is too much dolphin squid mind control crap but whatever.

Hmm, Tiberian Twilight is next right? That is a couple years off probably...
 

damocles

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Thats a real shame. I didn't like TS at all. but was hoping RA2 would restore my faith in the game. The graphics looked great, which was one area i found disappointing in TS.

Will there be a Demo coming out?, i will certainly want to test it b4 i spend my hard earned $$

Thanks for the info
 

duragezic

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I got Red Alert 2 now and I see what you're talking about Ben. A little band of Conscripts or paradropped American troopers will take out building surprisingly fast. When I first played it, I didn't like the game at all. The whole one nuke destorys 95% of the base (same with Weather Control) just didn't excite me.

But, I played it more and more and I am beginning to like it a lot. Numbers count in RA2. Don't attack with a mediocre amount of guys with maybe some mixed units. I played Soviets and all you have to do is crank out the Apocalypse tanks and pretty much destory everything on the map. A group of about 20 Apoc tanks will almost take out any base you come across. I played my friend, Allies, who had 5 prism towers and I had about 6-8 Apoc tanks. He also had some misc. units laying around. Guess what? The tanks stomped the whole friggin' base.

Anyways, getting back to the topic, yeah your stuff gets destroyed fast, but at the same time you can destroy things fast. The best defense is a good offense - remember that. I like Korea for Allies - Black Hawks rock and so do Prism Tanks (ONLY for infantry and buildings, they suck for armor, use Grizzlies) and Libya for Soviets (Gotta love 4 Iron Curtained Demolition Trucks armed with nukes and a huge force of Apoc tanks). The game is also for the most part balanced. Want to counter invincible Demo trucks headed your way? Chronoshift them into the water or the other side of the map. This works with the huge bunch of Apoc tanks. If you don't got Chronosphere yet and you're Allies...well, I'd say you're pretty much f*cked.

Blah, blah...finally my recommendation is to go out and buy the game. That's what I did, I played it enough and I like it. Most people I think seem to like the game anyways.
 

Ponyboy25

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Eagle, did you actually start to enjoy it, or did you force yourself to learn to like it since so spent you're money on it?

Ben, I'd have to say you gave a pretty darn good review of RA2. Thanks for the info!
 

duragezic

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Well at first it was just different since stuff could get destroyed so fast and some units seemed too strong. After playing it for a bit, I found that both sides have their set of strong units. I don't think I forced myself to enjoy, it was just that whenver you get a new game, you play it at least several times before deciding if it completely sucks or is a great game you continue to play right? Well after those couple times I began to like it more and more. Or possibly I was getting used to it more and more since it is a bit different than Tiberian Sun.
 

Modeps

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I love RA2, i know that damn Hawaii mission is hard as nails, but its a fun game and is alot like RA1. Oh yeah, and if you dont like the accelerated version, turn the speed down.
 

Ben

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Well, I played both campaigns all the way through. I do agree that you get used to the different play style after some time, enough to get better at playing anyway. But I still don't like it.

Thanks for the tip about the acceleration. I'll look into it (if I ever bother playing again).

The storyline was OK. It was enough to keep me interested. The woman that plays Tanya was enough to keep me interested too. :)