Just bought one of those electro-shock muscle sitmulators, if you have no experience in them, don't reply.

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Koing

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Originally posted by: Beau6183
IT'S NOT AN INFOMERCIAL ONE!!!, it's a high-grade ($350) machine. Kinda cool. I have it on my chest right now while I am typing -- it's making it pretty difficult to do so. Anyone have experience with these for muscle growth?

This is the one I got

I've had the experience to try out 3 of them at my own house.

They were had varying degrees that worked.

One was CRAZY strong and could probably kill me. I had two pads on my pecs, one on bi ceps and tri ceps both arms. Two on abbs. This was the first one I had tried actually. It felt really weird having my muscles and joings move without me casuing them to move. My bro then whacks everything on MAX and all of my muscles contracted really really hard. Dam it hurt. Like a muscle spasm but longer and harder but all full of pain.

Second was cheap and didn't do much.

Third was also pretty good.

You will get no muscle growth or anything like that. But they aren't 'totally' useless though. But if your not already 'pretty ripped' then its not going to do much for you. Its not going to build any mass or bulk for you at all. You go to the gym for that. But it will give you some tone though but only if your already pretty toned yourself. Its not going to tone a beer belly.
 

Blieb

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Is it just me, or are you a compulsive liar?

Originally posted by: Beau6183
... I've had to use them before on my back when I broke it 5 years ago to improve muscle tone and strength ...
I run everyday for 4 miles, on top of my workout schedules ....



 

Koing

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Originally posted by: Billy7777
Is it just me, or are you a compulsive liar?

Originally posted by: Beau6183
... I've had to use them before on my back when I broke it 5 years ago to improve muscle tone and strength ...
I run everyday for 4 miles, on top of my workout schedules ....

lol ;)

hey Beau6183 post some pics. I want to see what sort of bf% you have and how ripped you are for a very low bf%.....

 

Pepsei

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so by your logic, since you spend more, it should work....

then bowflex, starting at $799, should work better than $25 free weights?


somehow, i don't think so...
 

StageLeft

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The one I bought is physical therapy grade.
I think that's the hint :) Physical therapy - anything I've heard positive about these is when they are used in physical therapy. If you just hit the weights at the gym for an hour doing this is a waste of time and probably would do more harm than good (not allowing them to rest properly). Thank god for return policy!
 

scauffiel

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I read that Bruce Lee used one of these to decrease the amount of time it took to fully contract his muscles. By that I mean he used it to reduce how long it took to "fire" the electrical connections for kicks, punches, etc.; which is supposedly what made him so fast.

And NO, I'm not making this up.

Steve



I'm not sure if Coca Cola ever used it though. :D
 

thraashman

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as far as the 2% body fat comment. A quick search returns the following.

Most sources agree that the human body requires a certain amount of fat for good health. Fat helps regulate body temperature, store energy, and cushion and insulate organs. The percentage of body weight that makes up this "essential fat" is around 4% of body weight for men and 10% for women. Beyond that, there's a somewhat wide range of what is considered a healthy percentage of body fat.

According to an article from Medscape.com, the American Dietetic Association recommends that men have 15-18% body fat and women have 20-25% body fat. Healthy male athletes might be as low as 5-12% body fat, and healthy female athletes could be as low as 10-20%.


I know one of the reasons that Bruce Lee died was because his body fat was too low and his body couldn't survive his allergic reaction to something. Bruce Lee had around 2-3% body fat which is quite unhealthy.
 

guyver01

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Fitness.com article

People generally buy EMS devices for three main reasons. First, to help develop abdominal muscles and to improve the overall appearance of their body. Second, to stimulate and to strengthen muscles thereby enhancing their exercise program. Third, for rapid relief from pain (joint pains, muscle aches, back inflammation, etc.) and discomforts due to stress and strain.

EMS is an acronym for Electrical Muscle Stimulation. This is a process that uses low amperage electrical current to stimulate your muscles to contract and to relax. When a muscle contracts as a result of the localized electronic stimulation, the chemical changes taking place within the muscle are very similar to those that occur as a reaction to contraction during "normal" exercising. The chemical reactions which result from muscle contractions either through active exercise or through passive EMS, utilize glycogen, fat and other nutrients stored in the muscle and enable an individual to tone, to strengthen and to shape muscle.

We have seen all kinds of wild claims concerning the effectiveness of EMS. One article promised that 15 minutes with an EMS device was similar to 90 minutes of intense sit-ups. Another promised young men 22 inch arms within a month of EMS use. Claims like these are foolish and only serve to distort the true benefits of EMS. Scientific studies have proven that EMS is effective for toning and strengthening muscles when used correctly and consistently.

Additionally, studies have shown EMS to be a unique "helper" when used as a training aid with resistance exercise. EMS is being used extensively throughout the world. The Medical Advisory Committee allows the use of EMS systems by Olympic athletes. Tens of thousands of bodybuilders, professional athletes, physical therapists, sports medicine doctors and world class track and field athletes currently use EMS to supplement their regular workout routines for increased improvement and for performance enhancement.

Finally, EMS is not a substitute for eating correctly. Simply stimulating your ab muscles will not allow you to lose 4 inches off your waist in a month while sitting in front of the TV eating ice cream. However, EMS can help to tighten your muscles and give you a slimmer appearance when accompanied by a sensible eating program.

We have also found EMS training to be an invaluable asset in warming up the muscles and in increasing circulation prior to a workout routine. Research into this use has in fact demonstrated that individuals who use EMS before their normal workout routines have far better results than those who do not.

Many doctors also recommend EMS to aid in the rehabilitation of muscles following injury and to ease patient's chronic muscle spasms and pain. While it is true that EMS can help to eliminate or reduce the muscle soreness and pain following an intense workout or the rehabilitation of minor muscle injuries; it is important to differentiate between EMS units and TENS units. TENS units are normally more powerful devices capable of sending deeper penetration to the muscle and allowing for more intense contraction. This type of stimulation is commonly used by doctors for treatment of serious back conditions, spinal cord injuries and chronic muscular pain.

Just like with exercise, EMS does not deliver overnight success. The truth is that it will take 20-30 days to start to see any real, noticeable improvement. But the improvements will come.

Like most things in life, there are some very well made highly effective units and then there is the junk.

A well made EMS unit has a minimum of two outlets which are referred to as channels. Each channel has two wire connections with two pads attached at the end of each wire. The EMS unit works by delivering a gentle electronic impulse to your muscles through the soft electrode pads. By placing the pair of pads on a particular muscle group, your muscles respond to the impulses that are generated by contracting and relaxing rhythmically as controlled by the setting on the EMS Unit.

The better EMS devices have a variety of settings allowing you to find the one that is most effective and comfortable for the individual muscle groups you are targeting.

We have field tested a variety of EMS devices on ourselves, on casual exercisers as well as with various professional athletes and world class bodybuilders.

The devices that we have found to work the best and to be the most reliable are the Tamexx EMS Units. These devices are near flawless and come with a full two year warranty.

We have focused on six of the units for you to consider. There are three 9 volt units and three 12 volt units. The 9 volt units provide excellent EMS for people wishing to tone and tighten. Model 3004 is an excellent low cost 2 channel unit for everyone. Model 3006 is an enhanced 3 channel unit suitable for people looking for more serious definition. If you are interested in 4 or more channels we recommend moving to a more powerful 12 volt unit. The TMS 12 is a 4 channel professional caliber EMS device suitable for all highly serious EMS advocates.

If you are in search of an EMS/TENS unit then we recommend that you step up to the 6 channel TMS 16 or even better, the top of the line, the 8 channel EMS 20.

Your choice should be guided by the application you are planning. We recommend the TMS 20 if you are in search of a top of the line professional EMS/TENS device. If you are a more casual exerciser looking for the benefits of EMS the low cost 3004 will work fine for you
 

dman

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Went to a chiropractor for a problem I had. One of the therapy items was putting one of those EMS gadgets on my lower back area in hopes of building the muscle to take pressure off of my spine. It was also supposed to help relax the muscles so they could adjust the bones easier/more accurately?

Well, my insurance paid the difference beyond $15 a session, so, I decided to give it a shot for a while. I have to say, it made no difference in the muscle tone, but, it did feel good--like being in a massage chair, so, I don't regret it. These were professional machines so if anything would work, these should have. I stopped going regardless, even at $15 it wasn't helping me. OTOH, My wife did see some benefit from the treatment, mostly the adjustments though. Not the EMS stuff.

YMMV.