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johnjohn320

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Originally posted by: Tetsuo
Aren't you that guy that's always whining about how your life sucks?

Can't put anything past you...;) Read like, any of the replies, man. hehe
 

Tetsuo

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Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Originally posted by: Tetsuo Aren't you that guy that's always whining about how your life sucks?
Can't put anything past you...;) Read like, any of the replies, man. hehe

threads with > 40 posts I rarely read
 

KK

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Originally posted by: Tetsuo
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Originally posted by: Tetsuo Aren't you that guy that's always whining about how your life sucks?
Can't put anything past you...;) Read like, any of the replies, man. hehe

threads with > 40 posts I rarely read

lol, I'll have to try that.

KK
 

godmare

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my money's on Niwi7
edit:
after reading over your 'gangbeating' thread, it may well could have been anyone on anandtech... wtf is wrong with you?
 

Pacfanweb

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Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
I never have understood why teenagers these days are so "angst filled", as some say. Why? It ain't chemical imbalances, it ain't that life is hard, it isn't hard being a teenager. You have it made, mommy and daddy are paying for everything, and all you have to do is go to school and get good grades.

Damn, the only things I was worried about as a teenager were cars and pussy.

Heh, if all you had to do in high school was go to class and get good grades, and if mommy and daddy paid for everything, then you had it made.
That's all any typical teenager has to do, no matter what he/she thinks. In the big picture, that's pretty much it.

Hmm...I go to school, have 8 straight classes (no lunch, no study hall, yes I just go hungry), all Honors/AP courses. I work 20 hours/week or so. If I don't work, I don't eat any meals besides dinner (like I ever have time to eat lunch anyway), I can't drive myself anywhere, and most importantly, I don't get my piano lessons. I have to pay half the fee, which means I'm paying $50/week for lessons. As it is my ambition to be a music major, I am practicing 3-4 hours a day. I also am practicing oboe and english horn for about an hour a day to keep up with the Elgin Symphony Orchestra, of which I am a part. I also am an active member of Student Council, Key Club, and several outside-of-school service organizations. I love to do it, but what got me started doing it is the fact that colleges won't accept you without a bunch of extracurriculars. Speaking of college, I have to pay all my application fees too. More work.

Again, maybe YOU did nothing in high school, but a lot of us have no choice but to do more.

Now, I'm NOT complaining here. I have it very good. My family is well enough off, and my parents are cool enough that I have the option of taking $100 piano lessons, even if I pay half. I have the option of looking at out-of-state schools. My parents don't get all pissed because they hear the piano ringing through the house at all hours of the day (before 10 pm, then I have to stop cause they go to sleep), interfering I'm sure with their television programs, phone calls, etc. I have a good life. I'm just saying it's not as simple as just "going to school and getting good grades."

damn, i can't type.
Debating on whether I would pick this apart or not, wasn't going to, but what the hell:
First of all, I said typical teenager. You are obviously a bit more of a go-getter than most, so not typical.
Anyway:
If I don't work, I don't eat any meals besides dinner (like I ever have time to eat lunch anyway),
B.S. That's capital B, capital S. Like your parents wouldn't feed you, or give you the money for food, or provide the makings of food you could carry with you. Total crock. So you work a bit. Great. Lots of teens do, as did I. Nothing to feel bad about there.
I have to pay half the fee, which means I'm paying $50/week for lessons. As it is my ambition to be a music major, I am practicing 3-4 hours a day.
Great. So you mean that your parents, if it came right down to it, wouldn't foot the whole bill for your lessons? I hardly think so. Practice 3-4 hrs? Again, congrats on being that way, but not a typical situation.
I also am practicing oboe and english horn for about an hour a day
Hmm. Add up all these hours, including your school time, plus time to do homework and sleep, and they aren't adding up. I call B.S. I say you're exaggerating. And you still have had time to post 4000+ times here, also??
the fact that colleges won't accept you without a bunch of extracurriculars
Total horsecrap. Colleges are full of students who did nothing of the extra-curricular sort. Doesn't hurt, but certainly not necessary.
Speaking of college, I have to pay all my application fees too. More work.
Pardon me while I get a hanky. If your parents are capable of sending you to an out of state school, I'm quite sure that they would pay a weasly application fee, again, if it came down to it.
You are obviously capable of keeping your grades up AND working, practicing, etc, so they let you pay for these things. Don't think for a minute that if your grades fell off, and they thought you needed to spend more time on your studies that your parents wouldn't make you stop working, or cut back some of your other activities.
I'm just saying it's not as simple as just "going to school and getting good grades."
Bottom line, when you have to work full time, pay your own rent, pay for your own car, pay all your bills, and pay for everything in your whole life, THEN you will come back and say "students have it made, basically all they have to do is go to school and make good grades".
Until then, you have no idea how easy you have it, no matter how hard you think you work. You still have that peace of mind knowing that your parents have everything taken care of, and all you have to do is what you described above.







 

PowerMac4Ever

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Total horsecrap. Colleges are full of students who did nothing of the extra-curricular sort. Doesn't hurt, but certainly not necessary.
I agree here. I got into Purdue pretty much because of my ACT score and good looks, NOT my grades (especially senior year) or extracurriculars.
 

godmare

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Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Total horsecrap. Colleges are full of students who did nothing of the extra-curricular sort. Doesn't hurt, but certainly not necessary.
I agree here. I got into Purdue pretty much because of my ACT score and good looks, NOT my grades (especially senior year) or extracurriculars.
Depends on the school.
The valedictorian at my hs (one year, not mine) couldn't get into MIT due to his lack of extracurricular and cocurricular activities.
HE was in second year AP physics and second year AP calculus, scored a 1600 on his SATs and had an unweighted 4.0 gpa- weighted it was like 4.7 or something, I don't remember.
Had he been in a few clubs maybe things would have been different for him.

 

Pacfanweb

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Originally posted by: godmare
Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Total horsecrap. Colleges are full of students who did nothing of the extra-curricular sort. Doesn't hurt, but certainly not necessary.
I agree here. I got into Purdue pretty much because of my ACT score and good looks, NOT my grades (especially senior year) or extracurriculars.
Depends on the school.
The valedictorian at my hs (one year, not mine) couldn't get into MIT due to his lack of extracurricular and cocurricular activities.
HE was in second year AP physics and second year AP calculus, scored a 1600 on his SATs and had an unweighted 4.0 gpa- weighted it was like 4.7 or something, I don't remember.
Had he been in a few clubs maybe things would have been different for him.
MAYBE?? So you don't know that is what kept him out. You kind of invalidated your own post.
Anyway, I'm sure plenty of people can come up with specific situations to prove a point, but IN GENERAL, which is how I was speaking, I am right.

 

PowerMac4Ever

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Originally posted by: godmare
Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Total horsecrap. Colleges are full of students who did nothing of the extra-curricular sort. Doesn't hurt, but certainly not necessary.
I agree here. I got into Purdue pretty much because of my ACT score and good looks, NOT my grades (especially senior year) or extracurriculars.
Depends on the school.
The valedictorian at my hs (one year, not mine) couldn't get into MIT due to his lack of extracurricular and cocurricular activities.
HE was in second year AP physics and second year AP calculus, scored a 1600 on his SATs and had an unweighted 4.0 gpa- weighted it was like 4.7 or something, I don't remember.
Had he been in a few clubs maybe things would have been different for him.
Sure, makes sense. The harder (especially private) schools will look at extracurriculars more (University of Chicago is an example).
 

godmare

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Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: godmare
Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Total horsecrap. Colleges are full of students who did nothing of the extra-curricular sort. Doesn't hurt, but certainly not necessary.
I agree here. I got into Purdue pretty much because of my ACT score and good looks, NOT my grades (especially senior year) or extracurriculars.
Depends on the school.
The valedictorian at my hs (one year, not mine) couldn't get into MIT due to his lack of extracurricular and cocurricular activities.
HE was in second year AP physics and second year AP calculus, scored a 1600 on his SATs and had an unweighted 4.0 gpa- weighted it was like 4.7 or something, I don't remember.
Had he been in a few clubs maybe things would have been different for him.
MAYBE?? So you don't know that is what kept him out. You kind of invalidated your own post.
Anyway, I'm sure plenty of people can come up with specific situations to prove a point, but IN GENERAL, which is how I was speaking, I am right.

If Johnjohn320 is going for Ivy league, he'd be crazy not to do anything extra.
I say 'maybe' because the hypothetical situation obviously can not be tested, but his case would have been greatly improved against his competition, yes?
 

PowerMac4Ever

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Originally posted by: godmare
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: godmare
Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Total horsecrap. Colleges are full of students who did nothing of the extra-curricular sort. Doesn't hurt, but certainly not necessary.
I agree here. I got into Purdue pretty much because of my ACT score and good looks, NOT my grades (especially senior year) or extracurriculars.
Depends on the school.
The valedictorian at my hs (one year, not mine) couldn't get into MIT due to his lack of extracurricular and cocurricular activities.
HE was in second year AP physics and second year AP calculus, scored a 1600 on his SATs and had an unweighted 4.0 gpa- weighted it was like 4.7 or something, I don't remember.
Had he been in a few clubs maybe things would have been different for him.
MAYBE?? So you don't know that is what kept him out. You kind of invalidated your own post.
Anyway, I'm sure plenty of people can come up with specific situations to prove a point, but IN GENERAL, which is how I was speaking, I am right.

If Johnjohn320 is going for Ivy league, he'd be crazy not to do anything extra.
I say 'maybe' because the hypothetical situation obviously can not be tested, but his case would have been greatly improved against his competition, yes?

nah
Edit oh, btw, there was a girl in my school who got accepted to MIT and she was in a of a *lot* more AP classes then "2 years calculus" and "2 years physics"
 

Pacfanweb

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Originally posted by: godmare
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: godmare
Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Total horsecrap. Colleges are full of students who did nothing of the extra-curricular sort. Doesn't hurt, but certainly not necessary.
I agree here. I got into Purdue pretty much because of my ACT score and good looks, NOT my grades (especially senior year) or extracurriculars.
Depends on the school.
The valedictorian at my hs (one year, not mine) couldn't get into MIT due to his lack of extracurricular and cocurricular activities.
HE was in second year AP physics and second year AP calculus, scored a 1600 on his SATs and had an unweighted 4.0 gpa- weighted it was like 4.7 or something, I don't remember.
Had he been in a few clubs maybe things would have been different for him.
MAYBE?? So you don't know that is what kept him out. You kind of invalidated your own post.
Anyway, I'm sure plenty of people can come up with specific situations to prove a point, but IN GENERAL, which is how I was speaking, I am right.

If Johnjohn320 is going for Ivy league, he'd be crazy not to do anything extra.
I say 'maybe' because the hypothetical situation obviously can not be tested, but his case would have been greatly improved against his competition, yes?
Since it looks like he, from what he says, is a real go-getter, achiever-type, then it may help him, I agree. But, again, my original subject was a TYPICAL teenager, and he does not seem typical.

 

godmare

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Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Originally posted by: godmare
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: godmare
Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Total horsecrap. Colleges are full of students who did nothing of the extra-curricular sort. Doesn't hurt, but certainly not necessary.
I agree here. I got into Purdue pretty much because of my ACT score and good looks, NOT my grades (especially senior year) or extracurriculars.
Depends on the school.
The valedictorian at my hs (one year, not mine) couldn't get into MIT due to his lack of extracurricular and cocurricular activities.
HE was in second year AP physics and second year AP calculus, scored a 1600 on his SATs and had an unweighted 4.0 gpa- weighted it was like 4.7 or something, I don't remember.
Had he been in a few clubs maybe things would have been different for him.
MAYBE?? So you don't know that is what kept him out. You kind of invalidated your own post.
Anyway, I'm sure plenty of people can come up with specific situations to prove a point, but IN GENERAL, which is how I was speaking, I am right.

If Johnjohn320 is going for Ivy league, he'd be crazy not to do anything extra.
I say 'maybe' because the hypothetical situation obviously can not be tested, but his case would have been greatly improved against his competition, yes?

nah
Edit oh, btw, there was a girl in my school who got accepted to MIT and she was in a of a *lot* more AP classes then "2 years calculus" and "2 years physics"
Well, I dunno his whole schedule :p:)

 

Wheezer

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I had a friend that constantly talked the same way you do. Everything sucked, his life was worthless, he could not find a gf... "One of these days I'm just gonna kill myself" etc. etc. I heard this at least once or twice a week. I tried and tried to talk to him about things but it always came back to the same old sh!t. Finally I walked to my closet got my .38 out of the box, loaded it dragged his ass outside shoved the gun in his hand and told him to stfu and just do it already, "just make sure you put the damn thing in your mouth and point up." Walked back inside to watch TV.

He is alive and well today and that was 10 years ago...he never talked about suicide again.
 

Daaavo

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I said this in your previous thread, and I'll say it again here: Go volunteer some time with The Arc.

Have you even bothered to see if there is a chapter in your area?

 

Xionide

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Originally posted by: MacBaine
Originally posted by: idNut
So does anyone wanna come forth?

I think all of us hate you... so it's gonna be hard.

You were the one initialy posting to kill yourself. I CALL SHENANANGIANGAS

-xionide
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: johnjohn320

Ok, one angst-filled teen to another, idNut, listen up bud: Being a teenager sucks, doesn't it? It is more stressful than I think a lot of people realize.

Everyone older than 12 has been a teenager. We all know what it's like. While annoying, it's not that bad if you exercise a little self control. There is a life lesson that everyone needs to learn:

No one cares about you.

Outside of your family and abnormally close friends, no one cares about your problems. Everyone has their own. Don't ruin their moments of happiness with your problems. No one cares that no one understands you. They don't understand you, not because you're so deep, but because they don't care.

Now, it's not that they dislike you, there's just no reason to be concerned about your trivial day to day life. People don't want to hear bitching. Ranting is fine, everyone does it. Just don't be miserable all of the time and expect everyone to feel sorry for you and pity you.

This isn't directed at you, JJ, it's more of an open letter. :)

 

crisp82

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d00d, time puts everything in perspective for ya. The bigger and harder the problems become, the easier the smaller ones become to handle. You know how I know?

I was exactly where you were when I split with my ex (and spent almost a yr in a constantly depressed mood, and dragged a few guys here into one too!!) but then my sister got really sick, and has spent the last month in Hospital. Since that, the whole thing with my ex doesn't bother me even half as much.

Think back to when you were young, when your favourite toy broke, or when you fell over and grazed your knee. look back now and think if that happened to you know...doesn't even compare as a problem now does it? Believe me when I tell you that these things that are happening to you will get better, they will seem like smaller issues, and in the end of it you will be posting here giving the same advice I am giving you know.

In this and yourself you must have faith...

That is all...

Crispin
 

johnjohn320

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B.S. That's capital B, capital S. Like your parents wouldn't feed you, or give you the money for food, or provide the makings of food you could carry with you. Total crock. So you work a bit. Great. Lots of teens do, as did I. Nothing to feel bad about there.

All I'm saying is I pay for my breakfast and lunch. You can talk all you want about what my parents WOULD do, but what IS going on is I pay for 2 out of 3 meals everyday for myself.

Hmm. Add up all these hours, including your school time, plus time to do homework and sleep, and they aren't adding up. I call B.S. I say you're exaggerating. And you still have had time to post 4000+ times here, also??

School 6:45 - 2:15 (1 hour of this is practice, I get a piano 7th period and get some work done).
Work 2:30-5ish
Practice Piano 5:30-7:30 or so
Oboe/EH 7:30is-8:30ish
Homework til whenever
sleep at 10 or 11 usually.

Obviously, this gets altered when things like lessons, rehearsals, clubs, etc come into play.

Anyway, I don't want this to be a "I'm so great" type post, but I'm not full of it here is all I'm saying.

Total horsecrap. Colleges are full of students who did nothing of the extra-curricular sort. Doesn't hurt, but certainly not necessary.

Just going on what I've been told by university-admissions people...

Pardon me while I get a hanky. If your parents are capable of sending you to an out of state school, I'm quite sure that they would pay a weasly application fee, again, if it came down to it.
You are obviously capable of keeping your grades up AND working, practicing, etc, so they let you pay for these things. Don't think for a minute that if your grades fell off, and they thought you needed to spend more time on your studies that your parents wouldn't make you stop working, or cut back some of your other activities.

Well gee, you seem to know my parents so well! LOL, I'm not saying you're incorrect, but you're kind of assuming quite a bit, no? Again, as with the meals thing, I'm not saying what could or would happen, I'm saying what happens right now.

Bottom line, when you have to work full time, pay your own rent, pay for your own car, pay all your bills, and pay for everything in your whole life, THEN you will come back and say "students have it made, basically all they have to do is go to school and make good grades".
Until then, you have no idea how easy you have it, no matter how hard you think you work. You still have that peace of mind knowing that your parents have everything taken care of, and all you have to do is what you described above.
Probably true, no arguments there.

Everyone older than 12 has been a teenager. We all know what it's like. While annoying, it's not that bad if you exercise a little self control. There is a life lesson that everyone needs to learn:

No one cares about you.

Outside of your family and abnormally close friends, no one cares about your problems. Everyone has their own. Don't ruin their moments of happiness with your problems. No one cares that no one understands you. They don't understand you, not because you're so deep, but because they don't care.

Now, it's not that they dislike you, there's just no reason to be concerned about your trivial day to day life. People don't want to hear bitching. Ranting is fine, everyone does it. Just don't be miserable all of the time and expect everyone to feel sorry for you and pity you.

This isn't directed at you, JJ, it's more of an open letter

Yeah um..did you read the rest of my post? You just basically echoed everything I said...
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: johnjohn320

Yeah um..did you read the rest of my post? You just basically echoed everything I said...

Yeah, I know, I just felt the need to be a bit more direct. :)