(Just barely) 5 year old kindergartner charged with sexual misconduct by school

Oldgamer

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You know I really think these people in these schools are "Sex obsessed". Children this young are not sexually aware. We are talking about a baby barely out of diapers. The parents can't even give a rebuttal in this childs record. Our society has lost it's damn mind.

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waggy

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ok the school is fucking retarded. 1st giving him such punishment. 2nd not having the parent in the meeting. the excuse "District policy states that a parent does not have to be present for a disciplinary meeting unless the student requests his or her parent." is fucking retarded when dealing with a 5 yr old.
 

Oldgamer

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ok the school is fucking retarded. 1st giving him such punishment. 2nd not having the parent in the meeting. the excuse "District policy states that a parent does not have to be present for a disciplinary meeting unless the student requests his or her parent." is fucking retarded when dealing with a 5 yr old.

They said the school officials had this 5 year old sign documentation admitting guilt without a parent present, and a parent is not required to be present for a disciplinary meeting!! What the hell???

By the way this is in Arizona, and the child is hispanic, surprise, surprise...
 
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arizona is one of those states that should be bulldozed and made a parking lot for california.
 

alzan

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They said the school officials had this 5 year old sign documentation admitting guilt without a parent present, and a parent is not required to be present for a disciplinary meeting!! What the hell???

By the way this is in Arizona, and the child is hispanic, surprise, surprise...

The phrase "overstepped their bounds" doesn't quite encompass either the sheer stupidity or massive logical disconnect at work in the school's initial and subsequent actions nor the statement(s) of their asst. superintendent.

Not sure about AZ's laws but I don't think that would legally stand.
 

Londo_Jowo

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I foresee ACLU lawyers in the Dysart Unified School District future. I also foresee the school not being able to have a disciplinary meeting with student without a parent being present, specially one that requires a minor to sign an official document.

I truly have to wonder what is happening with our school systems and those who run them, did they go to the school of extreme intolerance????
 

Zebo

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What a joke.

And how do you know what child is. That seems illegal as hell releasing his info not his conduct.
 

waggy

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Sweet, 5 year olds can apparently sign legal documents.


and if they want a parent they have to ask.


Really this story is amazing.


Odds are they told him to sign it and he did. he has no fucking clue what he signed (not that he could read it). he just knows he was told to sign it.

then not having the childs parent there? fuck them hope the lawsuit hits hard
 

momeNt

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Kids are highly sexual at that age. They put just about everything in their mouths, and they are always removing their clothing.
 

Genx87

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You know I really think these people in these schools are "Sex obsessed". Children this young are not sexually aware. We are talking about a baby barely out of diapers. The parents can't even give a rebuttal in this childs record. Our society has lost it's damn mind.

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Ya think? How many stories about teachers banging the kids?
 

realibrad

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Ya think? How many stories about teachers banging the kids?

You are talking about such a small amount of teachers. Not to mention this is a very different situation. A teacher banging a student is not the same as a 5yo kid pulling down his pants.
 

Genx87

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You are talking about such a small amount of teachers. Not to mention this is a very different situation. A teacher banging a student is not the same as a 5yo kid pulling down his pants.

Of course it isnt the same. I was responding to sex obsessed comment. Banging students is just part of that sex obsession. Forcing 5 year olds to sign confessions of sexual misconduct because they pulled down their pants is another part.
 

SunnyD

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50 years ago, dropping trow would be labeled "horseplay", got you a slap on the wrist and maybe detention and your parents might have been called. See: The "Blue Moon" scene from Grease for laughs.

Today, you're labeled a sex offender for life at the age of 5.
 

Newell Steamer

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Whatever happened to the good old days? Where a kid like this would have just been beaten within a breath of his life for acting like this.

Look at the monsters we have become,...
 

smackababy

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I am in awe of the amazing Arizona school system which clearly has children able to read in Kindergarten.

You couldn't read in Kindergarten? I see why you post the way you do now. I'm truly sorry.

50 years ago, dropping trow would be labeled "horseplay", got you a slap on the wrist and maybe detention and your parents might have been called. See: The "Blue Moon" scene from Grease for laughs.

Today, you're labeled a sex offender for life at the age of 5.

50 years ago, they'd make you drop you pants in front of everyone and beat you with a switch.
 

SunnyD

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50 years ago, they'd make you drop you pants in front of everyone and beat you with a switch.

Ironically, it'd work better.

Today, those administrators would be branded sexual deviants and have no less than a dozen different lawsuits against them and the district just for thinking about it. Hang on, I need to phone up my lawyer before the thought police get here...
 

Cozarkian

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It's quite possible that the reason the parent wasn't called is because the disciplinarian recognized this was a 5-year old. Call the kid into the office, tell him not to pull his pants down at school, and comply with the strict policy on getting a signature for this type of conduct - no need to make a big deal by getting the parents involved.

I hope the above is the case, because then the school employee is just guilty of the same lack of foresight that plagues most of the rest of humanity, and there was no actual intent to string a 5-year old up as a deviant guilty of sexual misconduct.

If the above is true, then the real problem is likely inflexible school rules about the classification of behavior.
 

smackababy

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Ironically, it'd work better.

Today, those administrators would be branded sexual deviants and have no less than a dozen different lawsuits against them and the district just for thinking about it. Hang on, I need to phone up my lawyer before the thought police get here...

I have no doubts it would work. The kid would think twice about pulling his pants down from that point on!
 

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50 years ago, dropping trow would be labeled "horseplay", got you a slap on the wrist and maybe detention and your parents might have been called. See: The "Blue Moon" scene from Grease for laughs.

Today, you're labeled a sex offender for life at the age of 5.

I can say this was still true as of 30 years ago.

Having a "sexual misconduct" label on the kid's permanent school file is utterly ridiculous.

To me this compares to prosecuting minors for snapping nude photos of themselves on their cell phones, then the pics being seen by other minors.
When you stretch the meaning of terms like "sex offender" or "sexual misconduct" to these levels they lose their meaning and the authorities involved ought to lose all credibility.
 

smackababy

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I can say this was still true as of 30 years ago.

Having a "sexual misconduct" label on the kid's permanent school file is utterly ridiculous.

To me this compares to prosecuting minors for snapping nude photos of themselves on their cell phones, then the pics being seen by other minors.
When you stretch the meaning of terms like "sex offender" or "sexual misconduct" to these levels they lose their meaning and the authorities involved ought to lose all credibility.[/FONT]

The problem with a lot of those sex offender laws is they are rigid. If a boy is underage and his underage GF sends him nude pics, which he then transmit to others, he is guilty of sending child porn.
 

Newell Steamer

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Ironically, it'd work better.

Yeah! Especially the parts when they may end up being abusive parents themselves as a result of the beatings by teachers!!

Best of all, none of that fancy medicine to take care of "chemical imbalances" in children either! You just beat the bad out of them - and watch them grown up into dysfunctional adults. Possibly resorting to drugs and booze! Hell yeah!!

I mean, autism?! Really?! Just a good ass beating and they'll be right as rain!

Seizures?! Boy, you best stop mocking Michael J. Fox and get your butt back to cleaning them toilets!
 

OutHouse

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wow. the kids is 5 years old... wtf is wrong with school administrators? do they get stupid when they get their job?


Depantsing people was very common when i was in high school in the mid 80's. i was both a victim and perpetrator, another common thing was snapping bras or unhooking on unsuspecting girls with the snap of a your fingers while walking down the hallway. lol

damn today we would probably be in jail for all the shit we did.