Just Another Day With Political Inspired Violence

[nakedfrog]

What is wrong with you? Don’t you have any sense of self respect? Why humiliate yourself again by lying this transparently?

He's not likely to be humiliated by it, he probably guffawed the whole time he was typing that, and at each response.

 

[Pohemi]

What is wrong with you? Don’t you have any sense of self respect? Why humiliate yourself again by lying this transparently?

Nononono but see the /s makes it all okay so you're just dumb for reacting that way - taj, probably

 

[Bitek]

Let's see, an insane, child molesting, child abusing, BLM supporting, homeless illegal alien with multiple felonies commits a violent crime and somehow it's the Republicans fault who have been fighting against crime for decades? Yeah, sure. /S

So when are you calling to build a wall on the Canadian border?

Or do you only care when Mexicans and Hispanics commit crimes?

Republican "tough on crime" stances are VERY selective....

 

[Bitek]

What is wrong with you? Don’t you have any sense of self respect? Why humiliate yourself again by lying this transparently?

He's useful as to serve as an intel reporter on what the latest conspiracy theories/ talking points are in the alt-universe of MAGAworld are, without any living being endangering their sanity by having to travel there themselves.

Thus, debating with Taj is about as intellectual as debating philosophy with Alexa. There is no ghost in that can.

 

[Amused]

Let's see, an insane, child molesting, child abusing, BLM supporting, homeless illegal alien with multiple felonies commits a violent crime and somehow it's the Republicans fault who have been fighting against crime for decades? Yeah, sure. /S

You know when conservative Mormon news outlets debunk your bullshit talking points they're utterly indefensible.

Care to retract?

Facts, not fiction, about the attack on Paul Pelosi

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s husband was attacked last week. Here are the facts of the case.

www.deseret.com

 

[Bitek]

To be fair the EXTREMELY rare case of a nut-job breaking into one's home and coming at you with a hammer IS legitimately one of the times where a firearm might just come in handy!

I had actually thought of that, and tbf I'd have to agree...but it crossed my mind as an expected, typical attempt by conservative talking heads of a 'gotchya' remark just to be snarky about the situation.

Well, you brought it up, but yes.

Few things, which you will likely not agree with, but I have no interest in carrying on for pages.

1. It's not correct to think there are no liberal gun owners or 2A backers

2. Such a situation is why so many gun owners fight efforts on gun control and preservation of gun rights. Self defense is one, but not the only dimension.

3. One more reason Ds should personally reconsider their relationship with firearms and self defence, including political Ds. The right is increasingly violent, and just counting on police or SS isn't realistic. Own your own security.

- How different would have the situation been had Pelosi gone to bathroom to get a .357 instead of an iphone (to call the people with guns.)?

4. This particular situation is rare, but guns used in self defense are not that uncommon. You can't outlaw crazy and criminal. An 80yo vs a 40yo isn't much of a fight.

 

[dank69]

Just another day:

QAnon vigilante found guilty in hit-list killing in California

A California man obsessed with QAnon conspiracy theories was convicted in the murder of a registered sex offender he had placed on a hit list.Rory Banks, of Wheatland, was found guilty last week of burglary and premeditated murder in the fatal shooting of 55-year-old Ralph Mendez, whom he...

www.rawstory.com

 

[Captante]

Well, you brought it up, but yes.

Few things, which you will likely not agree with, but I have no interest in carrying on for pages.

1. It's not correct to think there are no liberal gun owners or 2A backers

2. Such a situation is why so many gun owners fight efforts on gun control and preservation of gun rights. Self defense is one, but not the only dimension.

3. One more reason Ds should personally reconsider their relationship with firearms and self defence, including political Ds. The right is increasingly violent, and just counting on police or SS isn't realistic. Own your own security.

- How different would have the situation been had Pelosi gone to bathroom to get a .357 instead of an iphone (to call the people with guns.)?

4. This particular situation is rare, but guns used in self defense are not that uncommon. You can't outlaw crazy and criminal. An 80yo vs a 40yo isn't much of a fight.

I'm not 100% anti-gun just in favor of SANE gun-control laws.

I'm also old enough that "riflery" was still a part of YMCA summer camp when I was a kid (plus I've shot a lot of "skeet") and I'm also a pretty decent shot with a long-gun.... less so with a pistol.

 

[gothuevos]

Just another day:

QAnon vigilante found guilty in hit-list killing in California

A California man obsessed with QAnon conspiracy theories was convicted in the murder of a registered sex offender he had placed on a hit list.Rory Banks, of Wheatland, was found guilty last week of burglary and premeditated murder in the fatal shooting of 55-year-old Ralph Mendez, whom he...

www.rawstory.com

And another

Florida Trumper convicted for opening fire on two people over Biden flag on jet ski

On Thursday, the Miami Herald reported that a jury has convicted a South Florida supporter of former President Donald Trump who shot at two people in a conflict that erupted over a flag supporting then-candidate, now President Joe Biden on a jet ski. "The six-person jury deliberated less...

www.rawstory.com

 

[K1052]

I'm not 100% anti-gun just in favor of SANE gun-control laws.

I'm also old enough that "riflery" was still a part of YMCA summer camp when I was a kid and I'm a pretty decent shot with a long-gun. (less so with a pistol)

As a liberal who owns many guns the whole "just add more firearms to all parts of society*" approach of conservatives to every ill that we've got is pretty off putting.

I am a strong proponent of the idea that its ok for people to have guns (carry in many circumstances I'm more skeptical of) as long as there are substantially greater training requirements than wandering into a store and passing the mirror test. Going to any popular range these days and watching people there will make you a believer. So so many mishandled weapons.




*unless non-white

 

[Bitek]

I'm not 100% anti-gun just in favor of SANE gun-control laws.

I'm also old enough that "riflery" was still a part of YMCA summer camp when I was a kid (plus I've shot a lot of "skeet") and I'm also a pretty decent shot with a long-gun.... less so with a pistol.

Comment was more for pohemi than you, but Im of a similar mind. I'm not an 2A absolutist, but definitions of "sane" are very subjective and usually problematic in implementation bc govt is clumsy and dumb.

Much of my family are hunters, and I've been around guns since I was little. I don't like eating game, so I'm more of a sport shooter these days. Prefer six shooters and lever guns, but I have a variety of things.

I do know lots of gun folks tho, and there are many types, and thinking they are all pudgy aryan tactibros who plot to storm the capital from their prepper bunkers is absurd.

I know lots of women; young, middle aged, single /married /divorced. Some there for sport, some looking for self protection, but not an insignificant number who had an abusive ex. Some living alone, on limited income in the not the best neighborhoods bc that's all they can afford. There is no secret service to guard them. They carry sig p365s in 9mm in 10+ mags.

Old farts with .22 precision arms, or old Colts with .357 or 45LC handloads. Expensive 1911s...

Lots of AAs, Indians, Asians, Hispanics at the range too, for all sorts of reasons. .223, 45s, 9mm. Cheap entry level shit to safe queen ARs with 10 different accessories.

Sport shooters, hunters, collectors, self defence. LEOs off duty practicing, or working as range officers. Active/ex military. All sorts.

It's a big, but enthusiastic community that cuts across many demographics and political boxes.

 

[Pohemi]

Few things, which you will likely not agree with...

I did agree with basically everything you said in that post, fwiw.

They carry sig p365s in 9mm in 10+ mags.

That's my CC

 

[Moonbeam]

The easy availability of guns is the obvious cause of so many gun violence deaths. The less obvious cause of gun violence is emotional suffering attached to the belief that somebody unrelated to having caused that pain should be made to pay for it.

The focus will always be directed to the former because the latter is a universal condition nobody wants to admit to feeling. The cause is egocentricity produced by capitalist competitiveness. In short gun violence is the result of being raised to successfully compete, to view other human beings as objects to be conquered. Being good at it is the thing we most admire and worship.

The winners and preservers of the status quo will never willingly give up on that, school children be damned. The effort to ban guns is just a bandage we put on to hide our guilt.

The contempt we have for gun owners is just a projection of that inner evil, in my opinion. We worship a sick system and because of that there is no fixing it that will happen.

 

[Lanyap]

We now have video evidence of the break in of Pelosi home. I predict this will now become a non story on right wing media even though Republicans are still mocking the attack.

But his underwear.

 

[Vic]

There's a far easier explanation - they have determined (correctly) that their voters like this kind of behavior. It's not that they can't tell it's bad, they just don't care.

Republican tribalism requires that they remain outraged about Scalise while finding new mental acrobatics to justify the Pelosi attack.
This is how conservatives work at the basic level. While liberals believe the rules apply equally to all, and act as if, conservatives look for any excuse to apply the rules unfairly to their own benefit, and to justify any violence and injustice that incurs as the result thereof.

 

[Moonbeam]

The Republican Party is the One True Party of God because it is the political wing of the One True Religious Faith, the aberration of Christianity originally perverted in the South to justify racial bigotry and slavery and these days a money making machine.

 

[brandonbull]

Republican tribalism requires that they remain outraged about Scalise while finding new mental acrobatics to justify the Pelosi attack.
This is how conservatives work at the basic level. While liberals believe the rules apply equally to all, and act as if, conservatives look for any excuse to apply the rules unfairly to their own benefit, and to justify any violence and injustice that incurs as the result thereof.

Wasn't political. If it were, it was by someone that would never be confused with a Trumper. If this isn't covered up like Paul's last incident, people will hear a much different tale.

 

[Vic]

Wasn't political. If it were, it was by someone that would never be confused with a Trumper. If this isn't covered up like Paul's last incident, people will hear a much different tale.

A Trumper did this. You're apologizing for this violence because you're a Trumper. Trumpers love political violence.

 

[Amused]

Wasn't political. If it were, it was by someone that would never be confused with a Trumper. If this isn't covered up like Paul's last incident, people will hear a much different tale.

Facts:

Last year, David DePape posted links on his Facebook page to multiple videos produced by My Pillow CEO Mike Lindell falsely alleging that the 2020 election was stolen. Other posts included transphobic images and linked to websites claiming Covid vaccines were deadly. “The death rates being promoted are what ever ‘THEY’ want to be promoted as the death rate,” one post read.

DePape also posted links to YouTube videos with titles like “Democrat FARCE Commission to Investigate January 6th Capitol Riot COLLAPSES in Congress!!!” and “Global Elites Plan To Take Control Of YOUR Money! (Revealed)”

Two days after former Minneapolis Police Officer Derek Chauvin was found guilty of killing George Floyd, DePape wrote that the trial was “a modern lynching,” falsely indicating that Floyd died of a drug overdose.

He also posted content about the “Great Reset”– the sprawling conspiracy theory that global elites are using coronavirus to usher in a new world order in which they gain more power and oppress the masses. And he complained that politicians making promises to try to win votes “are offering you bribes in exchange for your further enslavement.”

Full Qanon Trumper. End of fucking discussion.

 

[fskimospy]

Wasn't political. If it were, it was by someone that would never be confused with a Trumper. If this isn't covered up like Paul's last incident, people will hear a much different tale.

Doesn’t it bother you to humiliate yourself by lying this transparently?

 

[dank69]

Doesn’t it bother you to humiliate yourself by lying this transparently?

Yeah, there has to be an app out there dedicated to subs like him looking for tops. I'm sure that will scratch his itch a lot better than trolling here.

 

[eelw]

Sigh. People still engaging with the troll

 

[Moonbeam]

Yeah,

In reply to your like:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2022/11/05/pastor-trump-sermon-tuchman-ac360-vpx.cnn

I found the, 'it was about saving the church over the pastor', but there was nothing about any duty to save the country.

 

[Moonbeam]

Wasn't political. If it were, it was by someone that would never be confused with a Trumper. If this isn't covered up like Paul's last incident, people will hear a much different tale.

What is the harm in facing the fact that your beliefs are actually evil? Evil itself exists only as a belief. All of the crushing fear you have for feeling your own evil is a delusion you carry from childhood programming demanding that you be good. The problem is those demands were the real evil. They forced you to believe you had to lie to yourself to survive. You don't really have to. If you are a Christian you know you have been forgiven. Evil can't co-exist with the truth and the truth is that there is no evil. There is only fear or love. What we fear is ego death, the stairway to heaven.

 

[Franz316]

Doesn’t it bother you to humiliate yourself by lying this transparently?

You can't feel shame if you hate yourself