Just a couple poll questions.. about current Isareli killings of Gaza citizens

[dahunan]

Just a couple poll questions.. about current Isareli killings of Gaza citizens


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The verbage of the first poll questions and the OP comment is troll bait.

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Common Courtesy.

 

[Aimster]

This wont accomplish anything because Israel is not going to get rid of Hamas
What a waste

 

[railer]

I voted.

And now I'll say that there is no correct answer.

Hamas kills Israeli civilains, on purpose.
Israel responds, killing civilians in the process.

Repeat to infiniti.

I think that Hamas needs to step up and find a better way to express themselves, rather than indiscriminant violence vs Israel.

I do realize that one could make the same statement about Israel, but Hamas is in a better position to do it.

It's just not feasable for Israel to sit back and do nothing while rockets rain down on her cities. While Israel's current response may in fact harm civilians and create more terrorists, what else would you have them do?

 

[Rockinacoustic]

The flowers and tin-foil hats are strong in here.

What is the right course of action for Israel in your books?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Your first question sucks. None of the answers apply due to your bias entering into the posted "answers". The second one is obvious but not nearly as stupid as your first supposed question.

 

[woodie1]

Nice poll questions - get them from Hamas?

 

[theflyingpig]

Just a couple of Troll questions...Indeed.

 

[Deptacon]

Wow.... are these results going to be posted on the Hamas website????

You would be singing a different tune if buses or cafes exploded in your neighborhood... or mortars and rockets landed in your backyard where your children played.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: Deptacon
Wow.... are these results going to be posted on the Hamas website????

You would be singing a different tune if buses or cafes exploded in your neighborhood... or mortars and rockets landed in your backyard where your children played.

You'd be singing a different tune if a group made a country next to you, and kept you poor and oppressed, while a world power kept them well armed against you.

 

[Avalon]

Wouldn't creating more terrorists not help anyone and not aid in creating peace? I don't see a need for both those responses in one question, seems highly biased to me. With that said, I don't think it will help but what do I know.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Your first question sucks. None of the answers apply due to your bias entering into the posted "answers". The second one is obvious but not nearly as stupid as your first supposed question.

exactly!!

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: dahunan
Just a couple poll questions.. about current Isareli killings of Gaza citizens

War is Peace.. Israel will find more peace by killing people

That's a stupid statement for a poll answer. Hamas attacked Israel, Hamas and anyone around it is going to die.

It's a VERY basic concept that if you play with fire (rockets), you're going to get burned. A peaceful people would, you know, actually be living in peace right now. So maybe you should be asking them why they attack Israel if you care so much about keeping Hamas and other Islamic extremists alive.

The demand is simple, surrender or die. Ask them why they won?t surrender hostilities, you have NO PLACE to demand the targets of Islamic extremists just lay down and take it. You have NO PLACE to demand we take casualties while you bemoan every death of theirs.

If Hamas wants to live, they can stop killing people.

If that demand is unacceptable to you, and you?d rather have them killing people and starting wars, then you should feel free to go over there and join them.

 

[mrSHEiK124]

People are throwing around "HAMAS IS KILLING ISRAELIS OMG111!" without adding anything to their arguments. I AM NOT SAYING THEY ARE NOT GUILTY OF KILLING INNOCENT ISRAELI CIVILIANS, BECAUSE THEY ARE.

In 9 days of Hamas rocket fire, the hundreds of rockets you guys are talking about, they've killed a grand sum of 4 Israels. FOUR. Death tolls from Israeli airstrikes are approaching 500 (473 was the last thing I saw) and the injured are climbing past 2300. Israel is carpet bombing one of the most people dense regions in the area under the premise that they are targeting Hamas senior officials. The largest confirmed number of Hamas officials killed I saw online was 10, including Rayan, and I think that was from Haaretz, Israel's largest newspaper. On the other hand, there are 100 dead children confirmed. Let's see, Start, Run, calc.exe, 10/473.....that's a 2% accuracy. You really call that strategic targeting?

Olmert, Livni, and Barak are up for reelection, and they will do anything to keep the right-wing in power in Israel. ANYTHING. This is nothing more than a brutal show of power to pad their vote. Hamas resumed firing missiles AFTER talks with Israel to renew the truce fell through. Part of the terms of the six month truce were that Israeli would remove the long standing blockade on medicine, food, and diesel into Gaza.

If you want to talk about Hamas violating the truce with sporadic rocket fire (less than a dozen rockets in six months) and justify Israel not removing the blockade, I can argue Israeli agression in and around Gaza, and a protestor who was shot dead in the West Bank which sparked brief rocket fire during the cease-fire. Israel did not remove the blockade, 1.5 million are still badly in need of supplies, and they're fed up. Firing crude, unguided fertilizer based rockets is not right, and it will not solve the problem, but at the moment, that's the path Hamas has chosen, and it's their only option to convince themselves that they can still "fight back."

To answer your poll, I think the whole fight is a bunch of epic fail, and the second question is preposterous. Iraq should be an example; if we want to attack someone, we will, whether or not we have a reason to be there.

 

[BrownTown]

So far as Iran is concerned I find that highly unlikely since it was my understanding Iran supports Hezbollah, not Hamas. Also, that conflict will really heat up with Israel bombs their nuclear reactor in the near future, but not over something as trivial as the Gaza strip.

 

[Zebo]

War aint a tennis match. Goal is to kill enemy until they capitulate.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: BrownTown
So far as Iran is concerned I find that highly unlikely since it was my understanding Iran supports Hezbollah, not Hamas.

Iran supports both Hezbollah and Hamas.

Originally posted by: BrownTown
Also, that conflict will really heat up with Israel bombs their nuclear reactor in the near future, but not over something as trivial as the Gaza strip.

Keeping Gaza inflamed leads to more attacks from Hamas, for which Israel can point it's finger at Iran.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: Zebo
War aint a tennis match. Goal is to kill enemy until they capitulate.

Ya, the morality of the war has no place with some people. All you worry about is winning, not whether you are right to be at war.

 

[Pocatello]

Hamas cannot destroy Israel, Israel cannot destroy Hamas, not militarily, unless it's willing to occupy Gaza, which is another mess. There is no military solution. Both sides are at fault at creating deep hatred for each other. Both sides say they want peace, yet they really don't. Israeli settlers continue to expand on "god-given" lands at the expense of the Palestinians. Hamas and many Arabs think that Palestine is occupied by the West, by not recognizing Israel. Both sides think that they can weaken their enemy's resolve by killing each other. Someday, the Jews will just get tired and leave for America! Or, why don't the other Arab countries take on all the Palestinian refugees. Fighting and dieing is easy, living together isn't, humanity strives on conflicts.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: Zebo
War aint a tennis match. Goal is to kill enemy until they capitulate.

Ya, the morality of the war has no place with some people. All you worry about is winning, not whether you are right to be at war.

Large scale military operations always raise important questions about whether or not they are really necessary or not. I believe this one was. Once you commit you sure better achieve your goals. Not for ego but it's irresponsible to people you are charged to defend and a waste of men and materials of those who sacrifice for the war if you don't.

 

[Albatross]

the reason the world "cares" that much for this particular conflict is jew hatred,especially the europeans who can`t forgive the jews for killing them.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Pocatello
Hamas cannot destroy Israel, Israel cannot destroy Hamas, not militarily, unless it's willing to occupy Gaza, which is another mess. There is no military solution. Both sides are at fault at creating deep hatred for each other. Both sides say they want peace, yet they really don't. Israeli settlers continue to expand on "god-given" lands at the expense of the Palestinians. Hamas and many Arabs think that Palestine is occupied by the West, by not recognizing Israel. Both sides think that they can weaken their enemy's resolve by killing each other. Someday, the Jews will just get tired and leave for America! Or, why don't the other Arab countries take on all the Palestinian refugees. Fighting and dieing is easy, living together isn't, humanity strives on conflicts.

Israelis have every right to those lands Arabs are occupying. It was given to them by mandate and then stolen shortly after discovery of oil in ME and pressure bore on international community by the oil Kingdoms. They also own it after the Egyptians, Jordanians and Syrians lost Gaza, the West Bank and Golan Heights by participating in a failed attempt at genocide against the Children of Israel in 1967. Sorry but when someone stages attacks relentlessly (1948, 1956, 1967, 1968, and 1973 and all the terror in between and after) from an area they should lose it if they lose. History has lots of presidence for this like taking , finally once and for all, Alsace-Lorraine and Alto-Adige from aggressive Germany.

Don't fool yourself about Israel can not destroy Hamas. They could obliterate Hamas and their financiers in a day if they had to. But they are part of the west so barbaric methods will not be tolerated.

It's funny you ask why don't pals leave. They almost did. The Arabs in the West Bank and Gaza Strip were packed and ready to leave following their 1967 defeat. Then the victorious one-eyed IDF General Moshe Dayan persuaded them to stay. Israel is now paying dearly for this typically naive "Leftist" gesture. Israel is still giving them welfare (food, power, medicine) as they shoot missiles at them. Really I have no hope for these fools Israelis have Stockholm syndrome something fierce.

 

[palehorse]

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I've heard of a few tragedies though...

 

[alchemize]

Killing a peaceful cleric! A man of god!

A cleric in the religion of peace, surrounded by his choirboys

 

[BarneyFife]

There are no winners in this.

Hamas launches rockets.
Israel kills a few "leaders".
Ceasefire announced.
Hamas launches rockets.
Rinse and repeat for the next 100 years.

 

[tvarad]

Looks like the "heads I win, tails you lose" kind of vote organized by Middle East dictators all the time to defend their rule. Surprising that it's not winning by 99.4% ;-). What else is new?