Jury announces verdict in Casey Anthony trial - Not guilty for Murder/Manslaughter

[Fingolfin269]

Hey guys I posted this in OT but am going to repost here since this thread seems more active.

OK, so I haven't followed this case at all but decided to skim through the back end of this thread after the verdict.

She was found not guilty but what is the final non-lie story of when her daughter actually disappeared? That's where I'm confused. Somewhere in this one would have to believe that she actually 'lost' her daughter or someone kidnapped her or something... right?

 

[OutHouse]

Yes you do... she used chloroform to sedate the kid, but used too much, or used it too often, and caused death. The duct tape was used to either keep the choloroform rag in place, or placed post-mortem to keep swamp-bugs, spiders, snakes out of the body orifices.

The evidence is the computer searches for choloroform. She performed those searches. She tried to sedate the kid so she can go out partying without the kid interfering.

EASY to get a conviction for negligent homicide.

Negligent homicide is a criminal charge brought against people who, through criminal negligence, allow others to die. Negligent Homicide is a lesser included offense to first and second degree murder.

100% speculation.

and she was found not guilty on the lesser charges because nobody could PROVE how the child died. example of negligent homicide: parent leaves kid locked by accident in a hot car and kid dies.

 

[JD50]

Hey guys I posted this in OT but am going to repost here since this thread seems more active.

OK, so I haven't followed this case at all but decided to skim through the back end of this thread after the verdict.

She was found not guilty but what is the final non-lie story of when her daughter actually disappeared? That's where I'm confused. Somewhere in this one would have to believe that she actually 'lost' her daughter or someone kidnapped her or something... right?

No, that's not how our judicial system works. Casey Anthony (the defense) doesn't have to prove anything.

 

[Fingolfin269]

No, that's not how our judicial system works. Casey Anthony (the defense) doesn't have to prove anything.

I actually couldn't care less about the legal system here since my questions isn't really directed at the trial proceedings. I'm talking about 'one' reasonable individual. What is it we are supposed to believe happened if she is 'not guilty'? (Yes I understand that 'not guilty' does not necessarily mean 'innocent')

Like I said, I didn't follow this trial at all so the answer to my question may already be out there.

 

[woolfe9999]

I actually couldn't care less about the legal system here since my questions isn't really directed at the trial proceedings. I'm talking about 'one' reasonable individual. What is it we are supposed to believe happened if she is 'not guilty'? (Yes I understand that 'not guilty' does not necessarily mean 'innocent')

Like I said, I didn't follow this trial at all so the answer to my question may already be out there.

Casey Anthony did not testify at trial so strictly speaking we'll never know the supposed "non-lie" story. However, the defense did put forth their own IMO implausible narrative: that Caylee accidentally drown in the family pool, and Casey's father covered it up by dumping the body. In other words, they claimed that he took an accident and made it look like a murder, so that no one would get in trouble...

- wolf

 

[Craig234]

this thread is interesting. mostly everybody in here want her convicted on character not evidence. kinda scary. also remember the jury saw a different trial than we did. we saw stuff that the jury did not.

Actually, I'm not sure if it was all covered, but there were many hours of the trial on TV.

 

[guyver01]

100% speculation.

and she was found not guilty on the lesser charges because nobody could PROVE how the child died. example of negligent homicide: parent leaves kid locked by accident in a hot car and kid dies.

yes, it is 100% speculation based on the evidence.

You don't have to PROVE how she died... just put forth a plausible theory that survives reasonable doubt.

The theory i speculated does just that... to me, and many of my friends and colleagues.

 

[her209]

Wow, the Judge ruled against her for dropping 3 of the 4 charges she was convicted of and threw the book at her. If the 4 acts occurred within the same conversation, then she should only be convicted on 1 count and sentenced on 1 conviction BASED ON court precedent. Though he gave no reason for ruling against her, I have a feeling his thinking is that it caused the state to expend resources based on each lie and therefore treated each lie separately. But what if the state expended resources on 2 of the 4 lies? Should she be charged for only 2 counts of lying?

And LOL at the prosecution trying to draw an analogy between being charged on multiple counts when its sexual compared to lying.

 

[Bowfinger]

I actually couldn't care less about the legal system here since my questions isn't really directed at the trial proceedings. I'm talking about 'one' reasonable individual. What is it we are supposed to believe happened if she is 'not guilty'? (Yes I understand that 'not guilty' does not necessarily mean 'innocent')

Like I said, I didn't follow this trial at all so the answer to my question may already be out there.

Based on the jurors who have come forward so far, we're supposed to believe Casey killed her. That's what they believe. They just said the prosecution failed to prove it, so they had no choice but acquitting her.

 

[Tom]

This is real life, not a tv drama.

We don't know what happened. There's no "story" we are supposed to believe.

 

[woolfe9999]

Four years for lying to the police has to be a new record. I note that since she has already served about 2, the sentence had to be this long or she'd have served no additional time.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43666041/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts?gt1=43001

Edit: she's already served 3 years, and will probably get out within a few weeks.

 

[Wreckem]

Everyone expected her to get 4 years. It was whether or not they would be consecutively or concurrent. Typically they would be concurrent. I've known people that served concurrent sentences for multiple completely unrelated felonies(robbery and aggravated robbery concurrent for a 4 year term, and neither were first offenses).

As for this case it dosn't matter. She has served approx. 3 years already. Once you compute time served and good behavior, she has little to no time left.

Edit: Apparently she has 1 week left. To be released on July 13.

 

[MagickMan]

This works out well for her, actually. They'll stick her in solitary and she'll have time to decide what options she wants to pursue and which offers she wants to accept. She's going to make a ton of money off paid interviews and the book/movie rights, sans legal fees, of course.

 

[werepossum]

Absolute bottom "breaking news" news of the day: Lightning strike at Caylee memorial 'could be a sign from the angels'
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...thony-tree-lightning-20110707,0,4949678.story

A tall tree in the same area where Caylee Marie Anthony's remains were found was struck by lightning this afternoon — just hours after her mother learned she would be released from jail next week.

"It could be a sign from the angels that they aren't happy with what's happened," said 40-year-old Keyla Lugo of Orlando, who has visited the memorial in the Chickasaw Oaks subdivision twice this week. "It's a sad day for Orlando, for Caylee and for justice. The rain, the lightning, the storm — it's the heavens indicating they aren't happy."

The vacant lot on Suburban Drive has sprouted a makeshift memorial of teddy bears and flowers — a magnet for thousands since the skeletonized remains of the 2-year-old were found there in December 2008.

"God has spoken. Casey's guilty," said Nicole Perez of Vero Beach as she walked to the mosquito-infested site beneath a steady rain. Perez and her colleague Michelle Cooper of West Palm Beach decided to stop after attending a business meeting in town.

As Cooper peered up at the exposed white bark of the pine tree she said: "That is what I call Karma."

Asked for a response, the tree said "Karma? What the hell did I do? To hell with being a sad day for justice, I'M the one that got struck by lighting."

In other news, Gloria Allred is seeking to represent the tree in a pending lawsuit against God. "This vigilante justice will not stand, and if God can't control his angels, He's going to have to pay up."

 

[OutHouse]

"God has spoken. Casey's guilty," said Nicole Perez of Vero Beach

man when people say shit like that it really pisses me off. NO GOD HAS NOT SPOKEN!!! if God really did speak i am pretty sure he would do it in a way that would make one shit them self. common lighting hit a tree its nothing more than that Miss Perez you simpleton.

 

[werepossum]

man when people say shit like that it really pisses me off. NO GOD HAS NOT SPOKEN!!! if God really did speak i am pretty sure he would do it in a way that would make one shit them self. common lighting hit a tree its nothing more than that Miss Perez you simpleton.

There are a fair number of trees struck by lighting each year. Perhaps God should add little placards with names, just so we don't mix up whom is guilty for each strike. In fact, it would probably be a good idea to strike the tree BEFORE the trial.

 

[Fern]

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She was found not guilty but what is the final non-lie story of when her daughter actually disappeared?
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We don't know. Unless you believe the defense's story, and I absolutely don't, we don't know exactly when the kid died, or how she died.

Casey A may be the only person who does know. Maybe some day she'll tell us. But honestly, given that she's such a liar, I wouldn't believe a thing she says.

Fern