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!!Jury acquits two defendents in Atlanta sheriff-elect slaying trial!!

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Fausto

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You guys may recall the Dekalb county sheriff-elect Derwin Brown who was murdered in his driveway three days prior to the date he was to take office. Well, the jury has just acquitted two of the defendents in the case on all charges. The former sheriff, thought to be the mastermind beind the slaying, has yet to stand trial (but has been formally charged with 18 counts of corruption, murder, etc). Unbelievable.

Link to latest coverage.

Fausto
 
I couldn't find any info on the makeup of the jury. I wil point out however that a majority-black jury convicted Jamil Al-Amin on all counts last week after many predicted his acquittal based on the jury.

To be honest, I think using Patrick Cuffy as the "star witness" was a bad idea. He is pretty much a total weasel and I don't think the jury listened to a single thing he had to say because of this. This of course means that Sidney Dorsey (the former sheriff) will probably walk too. He is a total dirtbag and really should be in jail. :|

Fausto
 


<< Any men or women of color in the jury?...kind of curious >>

I'm sure there were some pink ones like you
 
This is Atlanta. Race plays a big role... the jury mix tells volumes in itself.
So you have 2 people and quite a bitof evidence that what they are saying is true... yet 2 man who commited murder go free and will never be tried for this murder again.
Land of the free.
 
The make-up of the jury is in the article that you linked to.



<< As of 10:15 a.m., the jury of nine black women, two black men and one white man had discussed the case for four hours. >>



 


<< << As of 10:15 a.m., the jury of nine black women, two black men and one white man had discussed the case for four hours. >> >>


Ah, thanks. I still contend that Cuffy's testimony was seen as "tainted" and thereby largely ignored. If you read through the timeline of the story you'll see that he initally lied about his involvement, was arrested after being involved in a huge shootout in front of his house, hid some evidence, lied some more, suddenly cut a deal for testimony about his involvement in the shooting (in exchange for immunity), ad nauseum. Essentially, he's kind of a scumbag (was fired from the sheriff's office for massive overbilling of hours among other offenses) and the jury wouldn't listen to him.

Fausto
 


<< Cops killin' cops? What's up with that? >>


Oh man, I'd need pages and pages to tell you all about Sid Dorsey (and his worthless racist POS wife), but basically he lost the Dekalb sheriff's election in a runoff amidst (allegations of major corruption) to Derwin Brown. Brown made a huge show of stating he'd clean up the sheriff's department, etc and then was assassinated in his driveway three days before he was to take office. All evidence points to Dorsey, but it looks like he'll get off after this miscarraige of justice.:|

Fausto
 


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<< Any men or women of color in the jury?...kind of curious >>

I'm sure there were some pink ones like you >>



pink as in communist sympathizer?

Too bad they already had the old, bitter, cantackerous, I hate the whole world fart position filled; else, everyone knows where you would have been 😉
 


<< Cops killin' cops? What's up with that? >>



They couldn't have a brother sitting in the big chair...Don't you know better than that...The sheriff keeps his nice white pointy cap starched and in the guest closet...

Everyone knows they did it it is just a matter of proving it without the shadow of a doubt..which their was.

Sort of like OJ, everyone knows he either killed her or knows who killed her..yet he walks..

and just like OJ, these people can be tried again(Double jeopardy be damned) in civil court for a monetary judgement even if they are found innocent in a criminal court
 


<< They couldn't have a brother sitting in the big chair...Don't you know better than that...The sheriff keeps his nice white pointy cap starched and in the guest closet... >>


Both sheriffs are black Nitey....as are all the other defendents in the case. It was a case of Brown possibly exposing the vast corruption in the Dorsey era and charges then being brought against him. Dorsey organized the hit on Brown to shut him up.

Fausto
 


<< They couldn't have a brother sitting in the big chair...Don't you know better than that...The sheriff keeps his nice white pointy cap starched and in the guest closet...
Both sheriffs are black Nitey....

Fausto >>



There are more than one shade of midnight though..think Laurence Fishburne in Just Cause
 


<< There are more than one shade of midnight though..think Laurence Fishburne in Just Cause >>


Dude, the murder was in no way racially motivated. It was about a corrupt POS trying to shut up the guy who was going to expose him. Read through the timeline of the case and the related stories..pretty f*cked up stuff.

Fausto
 


<< Unbelievable. >>

Apparently, the jury was there and heard the evidence, you did not. Did it ever occur to you the jury was correct?
 


<< Apparently, the jury was there and heard the evidence, you did not. Did it ever occur to you the jury was correct? >>


Of course, but I really, really doubt it. This would have been a slam-dunk had our brilliant soon-to-be-former-District Attorney not chosen to use dirtbags like Cuffy and Skyers as the star witnesses. Anywho...more from the jury.



<< Jurors said they opted to acquit the two men either because they didn't believe prosecution witnesses Patrick Cuffy and Paul Skyers -- or there wasn't enough evidence beyond that to satisfy their reasonable doubts.

"There needed to be more. There needed to be more physical evidence. We needed more corroboration of the story. We needed more witnesses," said Gregory Heath, the only white man serving on the jury, which included nine black women and two black men.

Another juror, Bobby Dye said most jurors simply didn't believe Cuffy or Skyers. And beyond that there was scant evidence that could tie Walker or Ramsey to the crime.

"Some of the comments Cuffy made, he kind of dug a hole for himself," said Dye.

Walker and Ramsey's lawyers argued that Cuffy and Skyers invented a mastermind for the crime, former Sheriff Sidney Dorsey, and a triggerman, Melvin Walker, in order to satisfy the prosecution's demand for a deal. Several jurors said they found that theory highly plausible, though they split on whether they thought Dorsey was involved in the crime. >>



Fausto
 
So it was like "The Big Easy", a corrupted police force. A bunch of crooked cops and one squeeky clean one that was going to replace their boss. An article that I read kept mentioning that the slain man was black over and over again, so the media tends to bias the reader into seeing it as a race thing when it is not.

This is why I think the men of law enforcement need to be paid more. They risk their life day in and day out as civil servants yet a garbage man makes more than them. Case in point the average starting salary for a sheriff's deputy in Cumberland County North Carolina was under 18k a year back in 92 when I last lived there. It's true that you got provided a squad car and a gun but that was about it...So you can imagine the breed of men that signed up for that job.

On the other hand police corruption and the Rodney King like situations need to be really dealt with. Probably, a harsher sentence than if a civilian had committed the crime. They are here to serve and protect and if you can't trust them who can you trust?
 


<< Too bad they already had the old, bitter, cantackerous, I hate the whole world fart position filled; else, everyone knows where you would have been >>

Hahaha too bad🙂

Tell me Mighty Whitey, is everything to you Black vs White? First thing you asked was the racial makeup of the Jury. Are you suggesting that Black Jurors are biased, that it's impossible for Blacks to be fair?
 


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<< Too bad they already had the old, bitter, cantackerous, I hate the whole world fart position filled; else, everyone knows where you would have been >>

Hahaha too bad🙂

Tell me Mighty Whitey, is everything to you Black vs White? First thing you asked was the racial makeup of the Jury. Are you suggesting that Black Jurors are biased, that it's impossible for Blacks to be fair? >>



I think he's still thinking of that silly trial in LA?
 


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<< Too bad they already had the old, bitter, cantackerous, I hate the whole world fart position filled; else, everyone knows where you would have been >>

Hahaha too bad🙂

Tell me Mighty Whitey, is everything to you Black vs White? First thing you asked was the racial makeup of the Jury. Are you suggesting that Black Jurors are biased, that it's impossible for Blacks to be fair? >>



That's Everlast to you....😀

I was under the impression that the defendants were white, RedPawn. As for you implying that I'm the Mighty Whitey, I've got a little everything in me and consider myself mixed even if I am predominately caucasian, so get your tighty whitey's wedged out of yo crack, it seems like the discomfort is making you mean. 😉

and which trial are you referring to CarbonylXP, the first one or the second one?
 
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