Jurassic Park: Lost World

[Noema]

It is a matter of dispute whether dinosaurs were cold blooded or not; in fact most paleantologists toy with the idea of their being warm blooded because they can't fathom a cold blooded system sustaining such massive (and in some cases agile) animals.

The view of dinosaurs as slow, dumb reptiles is pretty much a thing of the past. Dinosaurs were very bird like, not reptile like, and that can be seen not only in their skeletons but also in their habits and muscular structure.

There are many things wrong with that movie (it sucks), but I don't think that's one of them.

 

[neutralizer]

Originally posted by: Noema
It is a matter of dispute whether dinosaurs were cold blooded or not; in fact most paleantologists toy with the idea of their being warm blooded because they can't fathom a cold blooded system sustaining such massive (and in some cases agile) animals.

The view of dinosaurs are slow, dumb reptiles is pretty much a thing of the past. Dinosaurs were very bird like, not reptile like, and that can be seen not only in their skeletons but also in their habits and muscular structure.

There are many things wrong with that movie (it sucks), but I don't think that's one of them.

winnar! thank you. :thumbsup:

 

[Rogue]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Rogue
I want my damn money.

I never promised money. Beside, all I got are Simoleons.

Does PayPal take simoleons? BAH! Nevermind....damnit! :|

 

[Rock Hydra]

Originally posted by: neutralizer

Originally posted by: akubi
ian's daughter is black. now what was that about? and she does gymnastics to fight off raptors......... wtf was that about

the whole movie seemed like it was pulled out of someone's ass last minute.

third one's even worse.

nah, i think the third was actually better the second.

I liked the first and third.

 

[SWScorch]

Originally posted by: Noema
It is a matter of dispute whether dinosaurs were cold blooded or not; in fact most paleantologists toy with the idea of their being warm blooded because they can't fathom a cold blooded system sustaining such massive (and in some cases agile) animals.

The view of dinosaurs as slow, dumb reptiles is pretty much a thing of the past. Dinosaurs were very bird like, not reptile like, and that can be seen not only in their skeletons but also in their habits and muscular structure.

There are many things wrong with that movie (it sucks), but I don't think that's one of them.

I was going to post something like that too. I was quite the dinsoaur nut after I saw the first JP (I was like 10 years old at the time). Glad you seem like the geek now and not me

 

[neutralizer]

Originally posted by: SWScorch

Originally posted by: Noema
It is a matter of dispute whether dinosaurs were cold blooded or not; in fact most paleantologists toy with the idea of their being warm blooded because they can't fathom a cold blooded system sustaining such massive (and in some cases agile) animals.

The view of dinosaurs as slow, dumb reptiles is pretty much a thing of the past. Dinosaurs were very bird like, not reptile like, and that can be seen not only in their skeletons but also in their habits and muscular structure.

There are many things wrong with that movie (it sucks), but I don't think that's one of them.

I was going to post something like that too. I was quite the dinsoaur nut after I saw the first JP (I was like 10 years old at the time). Glad you seem like the geek now and not me

same here. I think a lot of us were dinosaur nuts when we were little.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: Noema
It is a matter of dispute whether dinosaurs were cold blooded or not; in fact most paleantologists toy with the idea of their being warm blooded because they can't fathom a cold blooded system sustaining such massive (and in some cases agile) animals.

I'm no biologist, but if a Tyrannosaurus Rex or Brontasaurus were warm blooded, that's a lot of food that thing has to eat everyday to keep the body warm.

 

[neutralizer]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Noema
It is a matter of dispute whether dinosaurs were cold blooded or not; in fact most paleantologists toy with the idea of their being warm blooded because they can't fathom a cold blooded system sustaining such massive (and in some cases agile) animals.

I'm no biologist, but if a Tyrannosaurus Rex or Brontasaurus were warm blooded, that's a lot of food that thing has to eat everyday to keep the body warm.

Have you seen how much they eat?

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: neutralizer
same here. I think a lot of us were dinosaur nuts when we were little.

I was too.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: neutralizer
Have you seen how much they eat?

Ummm no. I believe no one has.

 

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Rogue
Cold blooded?

Winnar!

That's under debate:

Were dinosaurs warm blooded?

 

[cjgallen]

Lost World the book ROCKED SO HARD. After reading the book, the movie's suck factor was multiplied 10 fold.

I was really hoping there'd have been the chameleon dinosaurs like the book

 

[Noema]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Noema
It is a matter of dispute whether dinosaurs were cold blooded or not; in fact most paleantologists toy with the idea of their being warm blooded because they can't fathom a cold blooded system sustaining such massive (and in some cases agile) animals.

I'm no biologist, but if a Tyrannosaurus Rex or Brontasaurus were warm blooded, that's a lot of food that thing has to eat everyday to keep the body warm.

I just read this week that a Tyrannosaurus Rex probably gained about 10 pounds of body weight a day when growing up. That means they had to eat tremendous quantities of food to sustain that growth.

Haven't you seen their teeth?

And look at how much a great blue whale eats...they spend most of their lives eating, I'd suppose an Apatosaurus spent most of its life eating too.

 

[Noema]

Originally posted by: Fritzo

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Rogue
Cold blooded?

Winnar!

That's under debate:

Were dinosaurs warm blooded?

Like I said, it's still under dispute.

Some paleantologists think that they had some sort of hybrid vascular system. Not quite cold blooded, not quite warm blooded yet.

 

[Insomniak]

Originally posted by: Noema
It is a matter of dispute whether dinosaurs were cold blooded or not; in fact most paleantologists toy with the idea of their being warm blooded because they can't fathom a cold blooded system sustaining such massive (and in some cases agile) animals.

The view of dinosaurs as slow, dumb reptiles is pretty much a thing of the past. Dinosaurs were very bird like, not reptile like, and that can be seen not only in their skeletons but also in their habits and muscular structure.

There are many things wrong with that movie (it sucks), but I don't think that's one of them.

Thank you for setting the record straight and derailing the OP. Beat me to it.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: Noema

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Noema
It is a matter of dispute whether dinosaurs were cold blooded or not; in fact most paleantologists toy with the idea of their being warm blooded because they can't fathom a cold blooded system sustaining such massive (and in some cases agile) animals.

I'm no biologist, but if a Tyrannosaurus Rex or Brontasaurus were warm blooded, that's a lot of food that thing has to eat everyday to keep the body warm.

I just read this week that a Tyrannosaurus Rex probably gained about 10 pounds of body weight a day when growing up. That means they had to eat tremendous quantities of food to sustain that growth.

Source? Besides, 10 pounds may seem like alot until you consider how much an adult weighs. Not to mention the amount of food that a kill yields.

Haven't you seen their teeth?

I can point to a crocodile and say look at its teeth.

And look at how much a great blue whale eats...they spend most of their lives eating, I'd suppose an Apatosaurus spent most of its life eating too.

 

[Noema]

Originally posted by: SWScorch


I was quite the dinsoaur nut after I saw the first JP (I was like 10 years old at the time). Glad you seem like the geek now and not me

When I was a kid I was so obsessed with Dinosaurs my parents were actually worried.

I'd go to visit my grandmother (who is very catholic, and very literal in her reading of the bible; to her of course God created the world in 7 days) and I would show her the evolutionary trees and then say: "Look grandma, proof that we don't need God to explain the world! Look at all this fossil evidence of evolution."

She'd calmly reply that the devil put the fossils there to lure us and make us stray from true belief.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: her209

Haven't you seen their teeth?

I can point to a crocodile and say look at its teeth.

Not in relation to the size of a T-Rex you can't. Look at the Rex's teeth AND body. It had to eat LOTS to keep up that size, whether it was warm blooded or not.

 

[Noema]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Noema

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Noema
It is a matter of dispute whether dinosaurs were cold blooded or not; in fact most paleantologists toy with the idea of their being warm blooded because they can't fathom a cold blooded system sustaining such massive (and in some cases agile) animals.

I'm no biologist, but if a Tyrannosaurus Rex or Brontasaurus were warm blooded, that's a lot of food that thing has to eat everyday to keep the body warm.

I just read this week that a Tyrannosaurus Rex probably gained about 10 pounds of body weight a day when growing up. That means they had to eat tremendous quantities of food to sustain that growth.

Source? Besides, 10 pounds may seem like alot until you consider how much an adult weighs. Not to mention the amount of food that a kill yields.

Haven't you seen their teeth?

I can point to a crocodile and say look at its teeth.

And look at how much a great blue whale eats...they spend most of their lives eating, I'd suppose an Apatosaurus spent most of its life eating too.

The source was the latest issue of Newsweek. They have a nice article on dinosaurs.

I think the mere size and shape of a T. Rex suggests he was not reptile like in his behaviour (and thus probably had a cardiovasculary system unlike that of reptiles). Another point made on the article is that T.Rex wasn't probably the scavenger he has been protraied as lately, because there couldn't possible have been so much food just lying around for him to eat. He had to have been an active hunter. Again, look at his shape and try to imagine a cold blooded animal moving like it probably moved: you have to admit a T.Rex looks more like a bird than like a crocodile.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: OFFascist

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Rogue
Cold blooded?

Winnar!

Cold Blooded things never ever ever move around at night?

They certainly can't move around like that at night. Especially being of that size.

The first movie established that they are warm-blooded, so you're wrong in this case.

Whether they were really warm blooded or not is still being debated, but it doesn't matter regarding the movie.

And cold-blooded animals can move around at night just fine anyway. Not like it is cold in California where this took place. Doesn't have to be daytime to be warm.
Plenty of cold blooded animals are nocturnal hunters.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: Noema
The source was the latest issue of Newsweek. They have a nice article on dinosaurs.

I think the mere size and shape of a T. Rex suggests he was not reptile like in his behaviour (and thus probably had a cardiovasculary system unlike that of reptiles). Another point made on the article is that T.Rex wasn't probably the scavenger he has been protraied as lately, because there couldn't possible have been so much food just lying around for him to eat. He had to have been an active hunter. Again, look at his shape and try to imagine a cold blooded animal moving like it probably moved: you have to admit a T.Rex looks more like a bird than like a crocodile.

Thinking about the size and shape of a T. Rex, it looks like its built as a hunter. It uses its powerful hind legs to move itself at a good pace. Using its tail to balance itself. However, several things stick out in my mind. It has small forearms, therefore it must use its hind legs to hold and pin the prey (especially if its large like a Triceratop or Brontasaurus.) Another thing that stands out is that its eyes are located on the side and not the front. If a hunter were to be running (especially at an incredibly fast rate) the eyes would be located in the front (or at the very least, forward) to help it avoid obstacles as it chases the prey.