June 6th, 1944.

[crownjules]

Originally posted by: arcenite

Originally posted by: crownjules

Originally posted by: goku

Originally posted by: iwantanewcomputer
one of the most important days in human history.
if it had failed, and the allies pushed back to the sea, the US and britain might have concluded peace with the germans, who then could take russia. Nazi germany might still be in power today.

Sorry but no, we would have just nuked em eventually...

I doubt it a whole lot. The using of nuclear weapons on Japan was with much reservation as it was. It was either risk losing millions of men invading Japan, or try and break their morale and get them to surrendur.

Fixed.

Millions is a gross exaggeration. Military command estimated, at the most, 500k American casualties in storming the Japanese islands. Unless you're also including Japanese military losses and civilian, that would put the number in the millions for sure. But I wasn't.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: ZombieRitual
I'd also like to mention that there has been some debate about whether or not the basis for nuking Japan really was to prevent more soldiers from dying. Such as: sending a message to the Soviets, ending the war before the Soviets could contribute to the Pacific theater. Others have asserted that perhaps a land invasion would not have taken as many lives as was once thought. Still others suggest that the United States did not attempt to negotiate with peace factions in the Japanese government during 1945. World War II isn't as pretty as it seems.

Obviously multiple things factored into the decision, like most military decisions...so?

War is never "pretty." WW2 gets glamorized, but any clear-minded thinker can see that a lot of awful stuff happened on all sides.

 

[Azndude51]

Originally posted by: Tab

Originally posted by: dugweb
per this thread, I went back and watched the first 30+ minutes of Saving Private Ryan...

(I never get emotional in movies, but in SPR when the mother realizes the military men are there to deliver news of a death of one of her sons I really have to fight it That is a powerful scene)

The most emotional war movie moment was when the Jewish American Solider in Band of Brothers told the Jewish Prisoners to go back in...

I've seen Band of Brothers and remember that happening, but I forget why. Why did he tell them go to back?

Originally posted by: SuperSix
After doing some research, I was also amazed how accurate the play and graphics are in COD2.

I would say CoD2 is good graphically and cinematically, but I don't like how it's still a lot like the rambo style gameplay where you, the hero, do most of the killing. I also enjoy it's realism, because when you're in a war in real life, all you need to do when you are hurt is hide and a corner and you'll instantly regenerate. Ultra realistic games wouldn't be that fun, but I like fairly realistic games like Brothers in Arms. CoD2.

 

[Jadow]

I played that mission in COD

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: Jadow
I played that mission in COD

That doesn't count or mean anything to those who died.