Jumping ships. Which high end Intel to use

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SocketF

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I thought about the 3820 but you need to rely on the blk adjustment for ocing which isn't massive amount of flexibility. If i went the 2011 route i would get the 3930k straight up. Whats another 300?

Which "flexibility" are u missing?
Multipliers are free up to 44, that is already enough for 4.4Ghz. Then there is the BCLK. With 125MHz you can already clock til 5.5 GHz

All in all it is enough. Furthermore the L3-cache latency is a bit lower, because it is a true 4core, not an 8core with 2 disabled cores. Hence there are less stops of the ring-bus.

IMO the 3820 is the best bang for the buck.
 

Ferzerp

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Which "flexibility" are u missing?
Multipliers are free up to 44, that is already enough for 4.4Ghz. Then there is the BCLK. With 125MHz you can already clock til 5.5 GHz

All in all it is enough. Furthermore the L3-cache latency is a bit lower, because it is a true 4core, not an 8core with 2 disabled cores. Hence there are less stops of the ring-bus.

IMO the 3820 is the best bang for the buck.


BCLK is only going to go up 2-3% reasonably before you're unstable. 25% is unheard of.
 

AtenRa

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BCLK is only going to go up 2-3% reasonably before you're unstable. 25% is unheard of.

Not for X79 and socket 2011.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5091/...-bridge-e-review-keeping-the-high-end-alive/3

With Sandy Bridge E, overclocking changes a bit. The clock generator is still mostly impervious to significant bus clock changes, however you're now able to send a multiple of its frequency to the CPU if you so desire. The options available are 100MHz, 125MHz, 166MHz and 250MHz.
 

Ferzerp

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Woops, I knew that. I didn't realize they were talking SB-E (skimming at work)
 
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Pneumothorax

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Unless the OP plans on getting 6-core chips, has the apps to use them, and is willing to pay >$500-600 for the privilege (as Intel has no intention at pricing those any lower at all) then stick to 1155. The 4 core SB-E are useless unless you need the extra ram or i/o. (PCI-E 3.0 takes care of that on the graphics end, except crazy tri/quad configs) Intel is not going to price the IB-E's aggressively so expect to pay through the nose for the upgrade like us 1366 users had to do to get the 32nm upgrades. 2011 is not like 1366 when it first came out... I don't think we're going to get that same longevity of a platform again given Intel's recent track record.
 

cytg111

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Currently running 1090t @4ishGhz NB @ 3Ghz on a crosshair formula 4. Over the last few weeks i have been getting nic drop outs, system shutdowns as the NB is getting over 90C. The board has already been sent of and repaired and i didn't have a computer for 7 weeks. I planned on getting a new board and chip and was waiting on piledriver but Q3 launch is to far to wait and bulldozer isn't worth my money.

So the question is, with my system it is a gaming/general usage/emergency editting machine. I will be OCing the hell out of whatever i buy which is a consideration.

Choices.

So it's either the 2700k ($341), 3770k ($400) or the 3930k ($621).

Boards of choice are the Asus P8Z77-V deluxe and Asus P9X79 Pro.

Whatever cpu i by will be water cooled.

The rest of my stuff is in the sig.

The 2700k is a good OCer but is SB. (which isn't a bad thing.)
The 3770k is a less of an OCer but has IPC advantage (marginal)
The 3930k has 2 more cores and should OC similar to the 3770k (regarding headroom)

I have generally upgraded on the AMD side freqently (in the last 6 years i've had 3000+, 4400+, 6000+, 6400+, 9500, 9850, x3 720, x4 955, x6 1050T, x6 1090T.) Either they die from aggressive OCing or i get bored with them and get the newest release. I assume i will be less inclinded to do that if i get any of the above listed but i dunno.

I'm not sure which one would be the best. I know platform wise there are not a lot of advatages for x79 but i will be getting a second 7970 so the full 16x pci-e might come in handy.

I'm looking for some other educated Anand readers for thoughts.

Thanks.

- Dude .. you know excatly what you are doing, go with yout gut.
 

Markfw

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3930k is awesome. Since you are going water, you may get 4.5 ghz. I only got 4.3 with the temps I liked. But 6 cores/12 threads for editing/encoding ? can't be beat. It will waste the 1090T@4ish... I have had both.

Get the 3930k
 

bmadd89

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Regarding the 3820. I didn't realise the multi went that high. I thought it only went down and you could adjust the blk to the mention ratio's. Given what i know now it seems it is between the 3770k, 3820, 3930k. I only do editing on the AMD system if my dedicated editing machine throws a fit (which has only happened once.) So 99% of the time i only use it for gaming.


But given the situation i hadn't thought of was upgrading the editing machine with the i7-980 over to x79 platform and using the x58 as my gaming machine instead (As cantholdanymore suggests). That would net me an increase for both ram and processing power on the editing machine and give me a decent improvement performance wise from moving from the 1090t to the i7-980. And given the fact i'll be moving the i7-980 to my custom water i should be able to get a few more mhz out of the old girl.


Perhaps that would give me a decent net benifit on both systems?
 

blckgrffn

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Regarding the 3820. I didn't realise the multi went that high. I thought it only went down and you could adjust the blk to the mention ratio's. Given what i know now it seems it is between the 3770k, 3820, 3930k. I only do editing on the AMD system if my dedicated editing machine throws a fit (which has only happened once.) So 99% of the time i only use it for gaming.


But given the situation i hadn't thought of was upgrading the editing machine with the i7-980 over to x79 platform and using the x58 as my gaming machine instead (As cantholdanymore suggests). That would net me an increase for both ram and processing power on the editing machine and give me a decent improvement performance wise from moving from the 1090t to the i7-980. And given the fact i'll be moving the i7-980 to my custom water i should be able to get a few more mhz out of the old girl.


Perhaps that would give me a decent net benifit on both systems?

Sounds like the best of both worlds to me! You might as well put the muscle in the machine that makes you $$$.
 

bmadd89

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For the x79 motherboard. I know i said which one i was going to get as a gaming machine mobo but out of the Asus boards would i be better off getting something like the Sabertooth cause of the 5 year warranty period? I have always bought the Crosshair ROG stuff from Asus and haven't been dissappointed but the Rampage IV Formula only has 4 Dimm slots and the extreme is $537 and thats a bit pricey for a board. Is the P9X79-Deluxe any good @ $421? Sabertooth is $391. P9X79-Pro is $341