Julian Assange on the run ...seeks asylum in Ecuadorian embassy

[MomentsofSanity]

Given what I already posted....crimes against the US count. If you steal US documents, doesn't matter where you were when you stole them. Still a crime in the US. I'd LOVE to see him thrown in jail for a long time to rot.

What documents did he steal exactly?

 

[Zargon]

Not a US citizen, broke no US laws in the US. Is not an "enemy combatant".

I predict that he will end up in a US prison at some point, to be held indefinitely without due process.

this.

hes basically done NOTHING wrong. I also try to steer away from conspiracy theory but this reeks of political dirty pool

trying to make an example out of him to deter others from accepting leaks of US Gov't docs

 

[unokitty]

Given what I already posted....crimes against the US count. If you steal US documents, doesn't matter where you were when you stole them. Still a crime in the US. I'd LOVE to see him thrown in jail for a long time to rot.

Actually, it is not clear that publishing classified information and/or documents is illegal. The New York Times does it with some frequency. For example, look at the Pentagon Papers.

More recent examples include the New York Times Writer that keeps leaking information about Flame and Stuxnet.

Its clear that Julian has published things that have embarrassed the US... Then again, so has the New York Times and many other news organizations.

If the US Attorney General allows the New York Times to publish classified information with impunity, it would seem to be inconsistent to attempt to prosecute a foreign national residing in a foreign country for doing the same thing...


Uno

 

[Dari]

Even this guy is too smug and arrogant for my liberal friends. They hate him.

 

[Dari]

I don't blame him. He wouldn't be in this situation if it hadn't been for pressure from the US. Plus, Ecuador had offered asylum before, this is them just saying 'eat a dick' to the ever hypocritical US government.

They never offered asylum.

 

[unokitty]

Even this guy is too smug and arrogant for my liberal friends. They hate him.

Don't disagree with this at all.

At the same time, if being smug and arrogant were grounds for being incarcerated, the jails would be even more full than they are...

Uno

 

[Dari]

Don't disagree with this at all.

At the same time, if being smug and arrogant were grounds for being incarcerated, the jails would be even more full than they are...

Uno

Well, it certainly isn't helping him in the court of public opinion. He's not charismatic by any means.

 

[Linflas]

Well, it certainly isn't helping him in the court of public opinion. He's not charismatic by any means.

In a government of laws public opinion means squat. Many actions taken solely due to public opinion have led to some of the worst atrocities in history.

 

[Dari]

In a government of laws public opinion means squat. Many actions taken solely due to public opinion have led to some of the worst atrocities in history.

Calm down there, Tiger. I'm just saying that if this guy wants to create some positive perception about himself and his site, being arrogant and smug isn't helping. He just looks like a punching bag...

 

[Zargon]

Calm down there, Tiger. I'm just saying that if this guy wants to create some positive perception about himself and his site, being arrogant and smug isn't helping. He just looks like a punching bag...

hes european, he cant help it

 

[Murloc]

hes european, he cant help it

now that's racist, and it's even written the wrong way. Here, have some for free: '''''''''''''''

I think he's an asshole but doesn't deserve prison. It isn't him who stole the documents. This is just a huge political vengeance.

 

[halik]

You heard it here folks. According to defective lefty logic, its ok to rape someone so long as the victim makes the rapist breakfast. Loliberals, the most depraved motherfuckers on the planet.

Ha obviously he then didn't rape anyone and is desperate not to face these charges, because he's so confident he'll win...right? Errr...

If I don't do something, I probably wouldn't try to exhaust every legal maneuver to prevent the process that will clear my name. Logic fail all around.

 

[dud]

The Brits are currently trying to arrest Assange now as he broke a condition of his bail:


http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/20/world/europe/uk-assange-asylum/index.html?hpt=hp_t2


"Julian Assange is subject to arrest for breaking the terms of his bail, London's Metropolitan Police said Wednesday, after the WikiLeaks founder attempted to claim asylum at the embassy of Ecuador in Britain.

Assange was arrested in Britain in 2010 because Swedish authorities want to question him about allegations of rape and sexual molestation. His bail conditions included staying every night at the home of a supporter outside of London.

WikiLeaks founder speaks at Occupy London "He is now subject to arrest under the Bail Act for breach of these conditions," police said Wednesday morning. But it is not clear that they will be able to arrest him, since diplomatic protocol prevents authorities from entering foreign embassies."

 

[airdata]

This piece of work is at is again ... he's "run" out of options so now he is simply gone on the run:

Piece of work?

The guy is a journalist who has had his character assassinated since outright killing him would look too bad since it'd be obvious we did it... Killing somebody for using one of the basic rights american's treasure is hardly a message we want to send to anybody.

If you don't think the "surprise sex" charges were trumped up, you're an idiot. We deserve to know things including whether or not deployed soldiers are running around acting like idiots and killing civilians. Sure, it's not pretty.. but you can't pretend somebody is an evil person for letting other people know the actual news.

 

[Phokus]

Ha obviously he then didn't rape anyone and is desperate not to face these charges, because he's so confident he'll win...right? Errr...

If I don't do something, I probably wouldn't try to exhaust every legal maneuver to prevent the process that will clear my name. Logic fail all around.

I highly doubt he's worried about being charged for 'taking off his condom during sex' and more worried about being extradited to the US.

 

[Dari]

I highly doubt he's worried about being charged for 'taking off his condom during sex' and more worried about being extradited to the US.

Why is he even worried about that? No charges have been filed against him and no extradition requests have been made to the UK, let alone Australia or any other country. The guy is just a paranoid sob.

 

[CitizenKain]

This is the guy who leaked the names of people in Iraq who helped the US soldiers. Those people were targeted afterwards. This guy should be thrown to the wolves.

No, it wasn't. But don't let constantly being wrong about everything keep you from making ignorant statements about it.

Assange has every reason to want to stay out of the US, and I hope he is able to.

 

[dud]

Piece of work?

The guy is a journalist who has had his character assassinated since outright killing him would look too bad since it'd be obvious we did it... Killing somebody for using one of the basic rights american's treasure is hardly a message we want to send to anybody.

If you don't think the "surprise sex" charges were trumped up, you're an idiot. We deserve to know things including whether or not deployed soldiers are running around acting like idiots and killing civilians. Sure, it's not pretty.. but you can't pretend somebody is an evil person for letting other people know the actual news.

Dude, you've been watching too many action movies. THEY ARE NOT REAL! Why does someone so innocent run so hard (and Sweden of all places)? If he is not guilty he should be a man and face his accusers instead of running like a little coward that he is. In my many years of life I have found that the innocent RARELY run while the guilty often do. Assange is guilty as sin of something. The question is what?

You obviously have all the answers ... so what will be the ultimate outcome? My hope is that justice finally finds him.

 

[dud]

This is for those Assange fans out there ... this guy is a true hero:

http://news.yahoo.com/celebrities-activists-risk-losing-assange-bail-money-215800771.html

"The founder of Wikileaks knows how to keep a secret.

Two days before claiming asylum at the Ecuadorean embassy in London, Julian Assange partied with some of his most famous and well-heeled supporters. He did not mention that, in order to avoid extradition to Sweden on sexual-assault charges, he was about to potentially forfeit the bail money they had posted.

Among the well-known figures who stand to lose some or all of whatever they pledged for Assange's bail are London socialite Jemima Khan, British film director Ken Loach and the U.S. filmmaker Michael Moore.

Most of Assange's supporters did not respond to requests for comment, but author Philip Knightley said he was standing by his fellow Australian. "I'd do it again," Knightley said, calling Assange a "victim of flawed British and Swedish justice systems.""


Anyone else disappointed to see that Michael Moore might lose his bail money? I didn't think so. Any support of this guy gets what they deserve. Any response airdata?

 

[RampantAndroid]

Actually, it is not clear that publishing classified information and/or documents is illegal. The New York Times does it with some frequency. For example, look at the Pentagon Papers.

More recent examples include the New York Times Writer that keeps leaking information about Flame and Stuxnet.

Its clear that Julian has published things that have embarrassed the US... Then again, so has the New York Times and many other news organizations.

If the US Attorney General allows the New York Times to publish classified information with impunity, it would seem to be inconsistent to attempt to prosecute a foreign national residing in a foreign country for doing the same thing...


Uno

I'm not saying that his publishing is the illegal act, though it is a immoral act as he redacted no names to protect innocent people which is why I might have a drink or two to celebrate if I found out he met and picked up bubba's soap in the showers. I do not however agree with the whole protection of the sources issue. I agree with freedom of press, but when freedom of press can and does result in the deaths and/or persecution of people, then I feel there is serious wrongdoing.

 

[OCGuy]

He is more afraid of the Russians, believe me.

 

[sactoking]

Here's what seems to be the flaw to me: Let's say that Ecuador grants him asylum, doesn't that mean that he would have to spend the rest of his life in the Ecuadorian embassy, or at least until the UK charges expired? As an asylum seeker he is not an Ecuadorian citizen and he is not an Ecuadorian diplomat, so if they tried to transfer him to the airport couldn't the UK just grab him then?

 

[RampantAndroid]

No, it wasn't. But don't let constantly being wrong about everything keep you from making ignorant statements about it.

Assange has every reason to want to stay out of the US, and I hope he is able to.

Yes, it is. Contained in one of his leaks 2 years back (roughly) were names of afghan informants.

Though, I said Iraqi and should have said Afghan:

WikiLeaks has been under strong pressure from the United States and the governments of other countries but is also fraying internally, in part because of a decision to post many of the Afghan documents without removing the names of informants, putting their lives in danger. A profile of WikiLeaks’s contentious founder, Julian Assange, appears here.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/23/world/middleeast/23intro.html

But hey, don't let your lack of searching online for stuff prevent you from call outs.

 

[CitizenKain]

Dude, you've been watching too many action movies. THEY ARE NOT REAL! Why does someone so innocent run so hard (and Sweden of all places)? If he is not guilty he should be a man and face his accusers instead of running like a little coward that he is. In my many years of life I have found that the innocent RARELY run while the guilty often do. Assange is guilty as sin of something. The question is what?

You obviously have all the answers ... so what will be the ultimate outcome? My hope is that justice finally finds him.

Yea, he should obviously go to court on trumped up charges and face the chance of being extradited to the US. That's not taking it like a man, that's taking it like a fucking moron.

 

[Sinsear]

My hope is that justice finally finds him.

Me too; in the form of a bullet to the back of his head.