Judicial Confirmation Statistics

[Jhhnn]

I think you're mistaken wrt the Dems, Dave Simmons. The American political spectrum is strangely truncated at the present- there really is no "Left", not in terms that the rest of the world would recognize..There's the far right, way out there, basically the pied piper of the Repubs, and then there's everybody else, pretty much "centrist". It's basically impossible for Dems to find appointees as radical as the repub choices, simply because there's nobody to fill the shoes... I'm sure the only reason that repubs haven't offered up even more very radical right nominees is simply because there are very few people who have the credentials and the required headset, all in one package...

If you studied the situation wrt Clinton's nominees, you'd find that even centrists were blocked by the repubs, simply because they could be, and because they weren't rightwing enough.

 

[drewshin]

I found another conservative blog that had different numbers from yours, so which one of them is lying?

http://johnrlott.tripod.com/2005/05/my-research-on-judicial-confirmation.html

Appeals Court Nominees confirmation rate in percent (average rate)
93.443 Carter
89.3617 Reagan
78 Bush I
74.157 Clinton
66.6667 Bush II

District Court Nominees confirmation rate in percent (average rate)
93.088 Carter
96.053 Reagan
78.075 Bush I
87.896 Clinton
96.610 Bush II

DC Appeals Court Nominees confirmation rate in percent (average rate)
100 Carter
81.25 Reagan
88.889 Bush I
77.778 Clinton
20 Bush II

oh, it looks like your guy decided to fudge the numbers a little and choose the lowest percentage he could find.

 

[drewshin]

Sadly, the Democrats will probably do exactly the same thing next time they are in power, and will attempt to pack the courts with extremists of their own.

right, they will try to, but that's what the fillibuster is there for. it's not like there's a shortage of nominees out there, the bush just decides to choose the most wackiest judges he can find and then cries about it.

they dont care about the constitution or values, they just care about winning, even if it means changing the rules from term to term.

 

[drewshin]

By your own numbers Ozoned, here are the percentages that the Republicans allowed through during the 104th, 105th, and 106th Congresses when Republicans had the majority during Clinton's years:

Circuit Courts of Appeal:
104th 11 out of 20
105th 20 out of 30
106th 15 out of 34

Total: 46 out of 84

54.7%

WOW, Republicans bide their time during Clinton's nominations allowing only 54% of his nominees in (Jesse Helms blocked Clinton nominees for four years). Now the Democrats only allow 53% of Bush's nominees they're crying wolf - Republicans are now trying to pack the courts with their ultra right extremists.

LET ME SAY AGAIN, the Republicans could care less about the Constitution or this country, they only care about winning at ANY cost and damn everything else.

 

[GTKeeper]

Ya, the Republicans are just being Libs themselves.

 

[Tommunist]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

#2: The Republicans are, as far as I can tell, not going to do anything except approve every Bush nomination. This is bad for two reasons. The first reason is that by simply approving every nomination, you effectivly remove one of the checks in the process. Yes, the vote is still there, but it might as well not be. The Democrats are simply responding with a legal means of blocking the nomination. Call it whatever you want, the fact is that they have every right to do it.

you got it - this is what happens when thugs take over a political party. there was a time when a republican could vote their mind and not worry about getting stabbed in the back by their own party.

 

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: Rainsford


#2: The Republicans are, as far as I can tell, not going to do anything except approve every Bush nomination.

You need to understand that there is a process that puts the names in front of Bush. I would like to see the Dems put some names in front of Bush and have them nominated. Maybe that would make the "rubber stamping" legitimate, no?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: Rainsford


#2: The Republicans are, as far as I can tell, not going to do anything except approve every Bush nomination.

You need to understand that there is a process that puts the names in front of Bush. I would like to see the Dems put some names in front of Bush and have them nominated. Maybe that would make the "rubber stamping" legitimate, no?

Bush has already done that. IIRC Bush took 2 of Clinton's and nominated them. They passed quickly and easily - yet Bush's seem to get stuck due to the dems.
Hmm....

CsG

 

[Crimson]

If these judges are as 'extreme' as Conjur makes them out to be, should we not be trying to get them OUT of their current positions in higher courts of this land? Fact is, these judges are only 'extreme' because people like Conjur don't agree with them. An 'extreme' judge to me is not one who supports, or opposes abortion.. one whos pro-death penalty or against it.. one who is pro-corporation or anti-corporation. An extreme judge is one who does not follow the constitution, or who breaks the law, etc.

The label 'extreme' is being thrown around by people who are playing political games.. there is nothing extreme about ANY of these nominees.

Lets follow the process layed out by our founding fathers.. if the voters decide this administration is too extreme, then the VOTERS can decide to pick a different President.. Fact is, the majority of this country who made a choice, decided Bush was a better choice.. Deal with it and stop crying like little babies. You LOST in the Executive Branch, you LOST in the Senate, you LOST in the House.. You don't get your way when you lose.. convince people you are right next time and win an election for once, then you can pick your own 'extreme' judges.

 

[Jhhnn]

Bush allegedly renominates 2 of clinton's picks, out of ~250, CsG seems to want to call that a compromise...

That must mean that the Dems confirming 205+ of Bush nominees is definitely a compromise...

A process that puts the names up in front of Bush... hmmm... friends and family of the pnac and the fundie fringe, perhaps? Seems to be that way with the 10 who've been blocked by Dems... anybody claiming that those blocked aren't extreme really needs to study up, or figure out that they're pretty extreme, themselves...

Crying like little babies? Sounds like the Repub leadership, to me- now that they're in the majority, senate rules they exploited for years no longer seem to be worthwhile, and anybody attempting to use them is obviously an obstructionist...

I hope this comes up to a vote rsn, and that Frist loses, due to defections in his own party. Perfect Justice, and the whining from the righties should be epic... 96.7% isn't good enough- we want it all! UHhhhhh-Wahhhhhh.....

 

[Crimson]

Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Bush allegedly renominates 2 of clinton's picks, out of ~250, CsG seems to want to call that a compromise...

That must mean that the Dems confirming 205+ of Bush nominees is definitely a compromise...

A process that puts the names up in front of Bush... hmmm... friends and family of the pnac and the fundie fringe, perhaps? Seems to be that way with the 10 who've been blocked by Dems... anybody claiming that those blocked aren't extreme really needs to study up, or figure out that they're pretty extreme, themselves...

Crying like little babies? Sounds like the Repub leadership, to me- now that they're in the majority, senate rules they exploited for years no longer seem to be worthwhile, and anybody attempting to use them is obviously an obstructionist...

I hope this comes up to a vote rsn, and that Frist loses, due to defections in his own party. Perfect Justice, and the whining from the righties should be epic... 96.7% isn't good enough- we want it all! UHhhhhh-Wahhhhhh.....

Win an election and you can have it all too.