Judge signals interest in removing Mueller report redactions

[DrDoug]

A Federal judge appointed by G. W. Bush is considering releasing the Mueller Report with no redactions. Please let it be!

Walton didn’t issue an opinion from the bench on the case, which centers on a pair of consolidated lawsuits filed against the Justice Department under the Freedom of Information Act. But the judge, an appointee of President George W. Bush, sounded increasingly skeptical of the government's arguments pressing him to leave the redactions untouched. “That’s what open government is about,” Walton said during one exchange, citing the resolution of a 2008 sex crimes case against financier Jeffrey Epstein as an example of how obfuscating the reasons behind not prosecuting high-profile people generates public distrust in the country’s criminal justice system.
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For example, Walton said he had “some concerns” about trying to reconcile public statements Trump and Attorney General William Barr have made about the report with the content of the report itself. The judge pointed to Trump’s claims that Mueller found “no collusion” between his campaign and Russia and the president’s insistence that he had been exonerated from a possible obstruction of justice charge. These comments, Walton said, appeared bolstered by Barr’s description of Mueller’s findings during a DOJ news conference — before the public and media could read the document for themselves.

No ruling yet but I'm sure that if he rules to release it then you can bet the Felonious D's private attorneys, I mean the Justice Department, will be quick to appeal.

 

[cytg111]

Yea and questioning Barr's motives and all... like why is Trumps questionaire redacted under grand jury reasoning and not as it should be, related to ongoing counter intelligence investigations (that barr may already have curbed).. About time someone had a look at Barr.. may not be able to cuff him but at least pull his treasonous ass out into the sunlight... creatures of the dark usually squirms at a little UV.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Would be nice but I doubt it will happen even if the judge orders it. Not much happened after the testimony and with the unfortunate (to say the least) shootings the Reps have had cover to work on getting their judges in under the radar while the Dems do...?

 

[fskimospy]

I don’t think he’s pushing for no redactions at all, but the judge appears to be saying that Barr redacted sections of Trump’s answers to Mueller’s questions by saying they were covered by grand jury secrecy rules. That clearly isn’t true though as Trump never appeared before the grand jury. We already know Trump lied to Mueller and unredacted sections of the report say as much. What this might let us see though is exactly how Trump lied, which could be illuminating.

It is interesting, after all, that despite having all the time in the world to answer and having the assistance of counsel Trump clearly still couldn’t stop himself from lying repeatedly to Mueller, each of which is a felony.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

I'm SURE after the Mueller report is released it will be enough!
I'm SURE after Mueller does a public speech it will be enough!
I'm SURE after Mueller does a public hearing under oath it will be enough!
I'm SURE after the entire Mueller report without redactions it will be enough!

I just don't get the perrogative with all this. It's silly and stupid. We all know what happened at this point - no amount of pulling redactions will get the public to read it or better understand it. No amount of public hearings will get the general US public to watch Mueller over Opera or Jerry Springer. The people that want to be informed are already informed.

 

[fskimospy]

I'm SURE after the Mueller report is released it will be enough!
I'm SURE after Mueller does a public speech it will be enough!
I'm SURE after Mueller does a public hearing under oath it will be enough!
I'm SURE after the entire Mueller report without redactions it will be enough!

I just don't get the perrogative with all this. It's silly and stupid. We all know what happened at this point - no amount of pulling redactions will get the public to read it or better understand it. No amount of public hearings will get the general US public to watch Mueller over Opera or Jerry Springer. The people that want to be informed are already informed.

Who do you think is saying that? I haven’t seen literally a single person.

It’s relevant for any number of reasons, not the least of which is that the public deserves to have as much information as possible about whether or not the president is committing crimes. It’s also important that the Attorney General can’t lie to the nation and create spurious reasons to cover up politically inconvenient information.

What’s silly and stupid is anyone arguing otherwise because they think this is only important from a political perspective.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Who do you think is saying that? I haven’t seen literally a single person.

It’s relevant for any number of reasons, not the least of which is that the public deserves to have as much information as possible about whether or not the president is committing crimes. It’s also important that the Attorney General can’t lie to the nation and create spurious reasons to cover up politically inconvenient information.

What’s silly and stupid is anyone arguing otherwise because they think this is only important from a political perspective.

It's illuminating for now and future history, but so far no one does anything of substance with it. I wish there were an alternative party that had a chance and wasn't loopy.

 

[fskimospy]

It's illuminating for now and future history, but so far no one does anything of substance with it. I wish there were an alternative party that had a chance and wasn't loopy.

It’s not just useful for history, it’s a vital part of honest governance, even if Republicans are too corrupt to act on it in the present.

You would think that a principle we could all agree on is that if the president commits felonies the Attorney General can’t lie to cover them up. That’s what’s being done here hopefully, another set of Barr’s lies done away with.

 

[zinfamous]

I'm SURE after the Mueller report is released it will be enough!
I'm SURE after Mueller does a public speech it will be enough!
I'm SURE after Mueller does a public hearing under oath it will be enough!
I'm SURE after the entire Mueller report without redactions it will be enough!

I just don't get the perrogative with all this. It's silly and stupid. We all know what happened at this point - no amount of pulling redactions will get the public to read it or better understand it. No amount of public hearings will get the general US public to watch Mueller over Opera or Jerry Springer. The people that want to be informed are already informed.

but many Americans clung to six treasonous kangaroo Bengazi "hearings" wasting their time and money, and are convinced that "something happened." Seems the deplorables need saturation of a thing to believe it exists. If they con be convinced by simple, abject lies, I wonder what piling on the facts in evidence, again and again, would do for them?

I think it would crack at least a few obstinate shells.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

but many Americans clung to six treasonous kangaroo Bengazi "hearings" wasting their time and money, and are convinced that "something happened." Seems the deplorables need saturation of a thing to believe it exists. If they con be convinced by simple, abject lies, I wonder what piling on the facts in evidence, again and again, would do for them?

I think it would crack at least a few obstinate shells.

Meh, I don't think it's going to make a difference - I'm with Pelosi on my worries of seeking impeachment and all these hearings coming at the cost of losing the election.

I'd much rather see him lose the election - and then (bonus points) get prosecuted after the fact as he no longer has the bullshit "we can't indict a sitting president".

 

[trenchfoot]

Hey, I know, let's make a list of everything Trump has done to make America great again like he promised he would and compare that with a list of things he's done to weaken it, including everything that Mueller found out about him.

People wanna know. Funny though how people who don't want to know (by some weird coincidence) well, practically all of them voted for Trump.

Now I wonder why oh why that is.

 

[cytg111]

I'm SURE after the Mueller report is released it will be enough!
I'm SURE after Mueller does a public speech it will be enough!
I'm SURE after Mueller does a public hearing under oath it will be enough!
I'm SURE after the entire Mueller report without redactions it will be enough!

I just don't get the perrogative with all this. It's silly and stupid. We all know what happened at this point - no amount of pulling redactions will get the public to read it or better understand it. No amount of public hearings will get the general US public to watch Mueller over Opera or Jerry Springer. The people that want to be informed are already informed.

I think its sad that Trumps continious and massive obstruction is panning out... dont you think?