Judge rules it is OK to sell widow's home over $6 bill

dmcowen674

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4-29-2014

http://news.yahoo.com/ok-sell-widows-home-over-6-bill-judge-195937984.html

Judge rules it is OK to sell widow's home over $6 bill

A widow was given ample notice before her $280,000 house was sold at a tax auction three years ago over $6.30 in unpaid interest, a Pennsylvania judge has ruled.




The decision last week turned down Eileen Battisti's request to reverse the September 2011 sale of her home outside Aliquippa in western Pennsylvania.


"I paid everything, and didn't know about the $6.30," Battisti said. "For the house to be sold just because of $6.30 is crazy."


Joe Askar, Beaver County's chief solicitor, said the judge got the decision right, based on the law.


"The county never wants to see anybody lose their home, but at the same time the tax sale law, the tax real estate law, doesn't give a whole lot of room for error, either," Askar said.
 

nageov3t

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seems weird that they would have gone straight to foreclosure instead of sending her warning letters, collections notices, etc.
 

fskimospy

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A better description would be that the Judge refused to REVERSE the legal sale of someone's home because the amount they owed was small. The judge would have no power to do this.

The real dick move was the county deciding to auction the house to begin with, not the judge upholding the legality of the auction.
 

dank69

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Widow was given ample notice.

I paid everything, and didn't know about the $6.30

So who is lying?
 

TerryMathews

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Dave, why did you leave out the fact she received certified notice of the sale & that she is receiving the net proceeds less penalties owed?
 

Genx87

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Really? Over 6 bucks? Why couldn't the county just attach it as an assessment?
 

IronWing

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Today's lesson is that when the county sends you multiple notices that they are going to sell your house if you don't pay your bills, do something. Pay the bill, contest the bill, scream and shout, but don't ignore the notices.
 

dmcowen674

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Read the article. They did send them and have proof she received them.

Show the proof

"a notice of sale was sent by first class mail and was not returned."

First class is not certified

I had state of Illinois pull the same shit.

They sent notices that I owed $27,000 to an address I haven't had in Oklahoma since 2008 even though they had my Illinois address.

I never got a single notice because they sent them by regular mail.

They also claimed I got them because they didn't come back.

What a load of bullcrap.
 

Exophase

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I smell corruption on behalf of whoever got this house at what sounds like an exceptionally low price. I don't know why else these city workers would be so enthusiastic to foreclose the house over such a tiny amount. It'd normally be a lot more work for everyone involved to sell the house than to get the woman to pay this amount (or pay it for her), even if no one cared at all about helping her.
 

werepossum

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I smell corruption on behalf of whoever got this house at what sounds like an exceptionally low price. I don't know why else these city workers would be so enthusiastic to foreclose the house over such a tiny amount. It'd normally be a lot more work for everyone involved to sell the house than to get the woman to pay this amount (or pay it for her), even if no one cared at all about helping her.
That was my first thought as well. Unbelievable that no one there said "Look, here's six bucks, let's move on."

Then again, it's possible that this lady is a real class A bitch and they did not want her to keep her house. Either way, foreclosure notices should by law be required to be served just as a subpoena.
 

Newell Steamer

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US citizen owes $6: forclose the mother fucker.

US corporation borrows billions, dodges taxes and sucks on subsidies: it's OK - business as usual, no need for the government to intervene, other than increasing the tax breaks and subsidies.
 

glenn1

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US citizen owes $6: forclose the mother fucker.

US corporation borrows billions, dodges taxes and sucks on subsidies: it's OK - business as usual, no need for the government to intervene, other than increasing the tax breaks and subsidies.

If only the people had elected Democrats, I bet they would have stood up for the little guy here.

Aliquippa city council:

Mayor Dwan B. Walker, Democrat
Mark Delon, Democrat
Donald C. Walker III, Democrat
Vickie Fratangeli, Democrat
Robert Rager, Democrat
 

fskimospy

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That was my first thought as well. Unbelievable that no one there said "Look, here's six bucks, let's move on."

Then again, it's possible that this lady is a real class A bitch and they did not want her to keep her house. Either way, foreclosure notices should by law be required to be served just as a subpoena.

I agree with this mostly, but there would need to be some limit. Some people in this world are experts at dodging servers. I don't know what the exact procedures are, but I also think that a large, notice affixed to the door of the property or something to that effect (in addition to mailings) would serve as adequate notice as well.

Really though, the thing is here is that whoever pursued the foreclosure auction was the person being a dick. For the judge to overturn a legal sale because the county was a dick, but acting legally, is not the right thing to do.
 

BurnItDwn

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Things sent in the mail should not count towards reposessing or selling a house.

Some people don't like mail, so, they ignore all mail.
 

fskimospy

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Things sent in the mail should not count towards reposessing or selling a house.

Some people don't like mail, so, they ignore all mail.

Choosing to ignore your mail does not relieve you of your legal responsibilities.
 

IronWing

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Some people don't like mail, so, they ignore all mail.

Some people need to learn to act like adults. If one is going to engage in adult activities like owning a house one needs to pay attention to the baggage that comes with it.
 

brycejones

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I agree with this mostly, but there would need to be some limit. Some people in this world are experts at dodging servers. I don't know what the exact procedures are, but I also think that a large, notice affixed to the door of the property or something to that effect (in addition to mailings) would serve as adequate notice as well.

Really though, the thing is here is that whoever pursued the foreclosure auction was the person being a dick. For the judge to overturn a legal sale because the county was a dick, but acting legally, is not the right thing to do.

Clive Bundy disagrees with you
 

momeNt

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Remove property taxes. As Americans we should demand a right to our property, not a right to the lease of government property.
 

BoberFett

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US citizen owes $6: forclose the mother fucker.

US corporation borrows billions, dodges taxes and sucks on subsidies: it's OK - business as usual, no need for the government to intervene, other than increasing the tax breaks and subsidies.

If only the people had elected Democrats, I bet they would have stood up for the little guy here.

Democrats also eat aborted fetuses.

So when your initial troll trying to make this about corporation backfires, you double down on stupid?