Judge rules: "Driving at 150mph not dangerous"

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: Baked
I too would love to be a judge who gets paid for his rulings.

you mean paid a little extra out back behind the courthouse by the kid's father?

i don't see how that can not be dangerous. i can imagine any number of things going wrong while driving at that speed. for instance, an animal beloved patriot a deer runs out in front of him and he hits it, he hits a pothole and sends the thing flying through the air, he hits an icy/wet patch and slides out of control and hits a telephone pole or something. driving at that speed is dangerous unless you're in a controlled track, and even then things can happen.

its dangerous to the driver, but no one else, hence why it isnt "dangerous" all you are risking is your own life, not that of others

Suicide is illegal, hard core drugs are illegal...puting yourself in danger is not legal, him putting only himself in danger isn't the reason why he's off the hook.

YES IT IS!! ffs!

You're not allowed to feed the animals for a reason.

Then think about the danger you put yourself in when you:

- Get in a car
- Fly in a plane
- Step out the door
- Cross the road
- Use a knife

You should be locked up right away...

 

[Shawn]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: Baked
I too would love to be a judge who gets paid for his rulings.

you mean paid a little extra out back behind the courthouse by the kid's father?

i don't see how that can not be dangerous. i can imagine any number of things going wrong while driving at that speed. for instance, an animal beloved patriot a deer runs out in front of him and he hits it, he hits a pothole and sends the thing flying through the air, he hits an icy/wet patch and slides out of control and hits a telephone pole or something. driving at that speed is dangerous unless you're in a controlled track, and even then things can happen.

its dangerous to the driver, but no one else, hence why it isnt "dangerous" all you are risking is your own life, not that of others

Suicide is illegal, hard core drugs are illegal...puting yourself in danger is not legal, him putting only himself in danger isn't the reason why he's off the hook.

YES IT IS!! ffs!

Actually no. Read the article.

I have to rule whether speed alone can be the basis of a dangerous driving case. I reach the conclusion that it cannot.

Driving fast is only dangerous if you crash. However there is no reason for you to crash on a straight away with no cars on the road. Your car won't spontanously lose control by "going fast".

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: Shawn

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: Baked
I too would love to be a judge who gets paid for his rulings.

you mean paid a little extra out back behind the courthouse by the kid's father?

i don't see how that can not be dangerous. i can imagine any number of things going wrong while driving at that speed. for instance, an animal beloved patriot a deer runs out in front of him and he hits it, he hits a pothole and sends the thing flying through the air, he hits an icy/wet patch and slides out of control and hits a telephone pole or something. driving at that speed is dangerous unless you're in a controlled track, and even then things can happen.

its dangerous to the driver, but no one else, hence why it isnt "dangerous" all you are risking is your own life, not that of others

Suicide is illegal, hard core drugs are illegal...puting yourself in danger is not legal, him putting only himself in danger isn't the reason why he's off the hook.

YES IT IS!! ffs!

Actually no. Read the article.

I have to rule whether speed alone can be the basis of a dangerous driving case. I reach the conclusion that it cannot.

Driving fast is only dangerous if you crash. However there is no reason for you to crash on a straight away with no cars on the road. Your car won't spontanously lose control by "going fast".

What do you mean read the article? Read the rest of my posts you tool. I agree with the judge. I was responding to the moronic 'puting yourself in danger is not legal'. Read it twice, it says NOT LEGAL, I said it was legal to put yourself in danger and gave examples.

Reading comprehension, FTW...

 

[Looney]

Bet the judge owns a porche himself.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: Baked
I too would love to be a judge who gets paid for his rulings.

you mean paid a little extra out back behind the courthouse by the kid's father?

i don't see how that can not be dangerous. i can imagine any number of things going wrong while driving at that speed. for instance, an animal beloved patriot a deer runs out in front of him and he hits it, he hits a pothole and sends the thing flying through the air, he hits an icy/wet patch and slides out of control and hits a telephone pole or something. driving at that speed is dangerous unless you're in a controlled track, and even then things can happen.

its dangerous to the driver, but no one else, hence why it isnt "dangerous" all you are risking is your own life, not that of others

Suicide is illegal, hard core drugs are illegal...puting yourself in danger is not legal, him putting only himself in danger isn't the reason why he's off the hook.

YES IT IS!! ffs!

You're not allowed to feed the animals for a reason.

Then think about the danger you put yourself in when you:

- Get in a car
- Fly in a plane
- Step out the door
- Cross the road
- Use a knife

You should be locked up right away...

those are stupid examples.

in most of those situations you are not in control. if you use a knife in the intended and proper way, you will not get hurt .

you aren't breaking laws by doing those things either.
personally, if some jackass wants to put himself in danger, go ahead, less stupid people is good.

 

[Eeezee]

Did NO ONE notice that the kid obviously has a powerful/rich father?

If any of you appeared before the judge for the same situation, you'd all be felons (unless you gave the judge a little somethin'-somethin')

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: Eeezee
Did NO ONE notice that the kid obviously has a powerful/rich father?

If any of you appeared before the judge for the same situation, you'd all be felons (unless you gave the judge a little somethin'-somethin')

actually, i think it does say that he will be tried for going over the speed limit so i guess he isn't totally free yet.

 

[CFster]

Originally posted by: Shawn
Driving fast is only dangerous if you crash. However there is no reason for you to crash on a straight away with no cars on the road. Your car won't spontanously lose control by "going fast".

Not necessarily.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: CFster

Originally posted by: Shawn
Driving fast is only dangerous if you crash. However there is no reason for you to crash on a straight away with no cars on the road. Your car won't spontanously lose control by "going fast".

Not necessarily.

thats why i said hit a wet or icy spot. also, something on the car could break or come loose, or there may be a pothole or loose stones on the road.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: Baked
I too would love to be a judge who gets paid for his rulings.

you mean paid a little extra out back behind the courthouse by the kid's father?

i don't see how that can not be dangerous. i can imagine any number of things going wrong while driving at that speed. for instance, an animal beloved patriot a deer runs out in front of him and he hits it, he hits a pothole and sends the thing flying through the air, he hits an icy/wet patch and slides out of control and hits a telephone pole or something. driving at that speed is dangerous unless you're in a controlled track, and even then things can happen.

its dangerous to the driver, but no one else, hence why it isnt "dangerous" all you are risking is your own life, not that of others

Suicide is illegal, hard core drugs are illegal...puting yourself in danger is not legal, him putting only himself in danger isn't the reason why he's off the hook.

YES IT IS!! ffs!

You're not allowed to feed the animals for a reason.

Then think about the danger you put yourself in when you:

- Get in a car
- Fly in a plane
- Step out the door
- Cross the road
- Use a knife

You should be locked up right away...

those are stupid examples.

in most of those situations you are not in control. if you use a knife in the intended and proper way, you will not get hurt .

you aren't breaking laws by doing those things either.
personally, if some jackass wants to put himself in danger, go ahead, less stupid people is good.

- Mountain Biking
- Snow Boarding
- Flying light Aircraft
- Climbing
- Skateboarding

Keep on keeping on. I'm right, you're wrong.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: CFster

Originally posted by: Shawn
Driving fast is only dangerous if you crash. However there is no reason for you to crash on a straight away with no cars on the road. Your car won't spontanously lose control by "going fast".

Not necessarily.

thats why i said hit a wet or icy spot. also, something on the car could break or come loose, or there may be a pothole or loose stones on the road.

What makes you think the Judge didn't think of this? Oh yeah, he's just a Judge, they're pretty stupid in the main...

 

[CFster]

Not only that, but some cars get very floaty at high speeds. And who's to decide you're driving a particular car faster than it was designed for.

Not to mention that most people drive around with underinflated, or worn tires.

Also, you've got to love those car chase videos where some kid is driving way to fast and discovers what happens when you give it too much steering input. Fishtail, then he never catches it.

Weird things happen over 100mph.

 

[loic2003]

The Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents slammed the decision saying: "If driving at 150mph isn't dangerous driving we don't know what is."

How about 60mph outside a residential area/school? It's about using common sense: 120mph on a motorway is fine. 60/70mph in a populated area is really unsafe.

Brains + common sense > blind laws.

 

[CFster]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
What makes you think the Judge didn't think of this? Oh yeah, he's just a Judge, they're pretty stupid in the main...

Oh yeah, sort of like the judge in MA that recently let the guy off for child molestation - yeah, I think this guy was molesting some kids for like 4 years straight. The guy should have gone to jail for the rest of his life - instead he got put in an institution. Not too many people are happy about it.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: CFster
Not only that, but some cars get very floaty at high speeds. And who's to decide you're driving a particular car faster than it was designed for.

Not to mention that most people drive around with underinflated, or worn tires.

Also, you've got to love those car chase videos where some kid is driving way to fast and discovers what happens when you give it too much steering input. Fishtail, then he never catches it.

Weird things happen over 100mph.

You have never driven a Porsche, have you.

 

[theMan]

double-u oh oh tee

 

[CFster]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: CFster
Not only that, but some cars get very floaty at high speeds. And who's to decide you're driving a particular car faster than it was designed for.

Not to mention that most people drive around with underinflated, or worn tires.

Also, you've got to love those car chase videos where some kid is driving way to fast and discovers what happens when you give it too much steering input. Fishtail, then he never catches it.

Weird things happen over 100mph.

You have never driven a Porsche, have you.

Sure have.

At speed.

And plenty of other sports cars as well.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: CFster

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
What makes you think the Judge didn't think of this? Oh yeah, he's just a Judge, they're pretty stupid in the main...

Oh yeah, sort of like the judge in MA that recently let the guy off for child molestation - yeah, I think this guy was molesting some kids for like 4 years straight. The guy should have gone to jail for the rest of his life - instead he got put in an institution. Not too many people are happy about it.

American Judge != English Judge.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: CFster

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: CFster
Not only that, but some cars get very floaty at high speeds. And who's to decide you're driving a particular car faster than it was designed for.

Not to mention that most people drive around with underinflated, or worn tires.

Also, you've got to love those car chase videos where some kid is driving way to fast and discovers what happens when you give it too much steering input. Fishtail, then he never catches it.

Weird things happen over 100mph.

You have never driven a Porsche, have you.

Sure have.

At speed.

Did it get 'floaty' over 100Mph?

 

[CFster]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: CFster

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: CFster
Not only that, but some cars get very floaty at high speeds. And who's to decide you're driving a particular car faster than it was designed for.

Not to mention that most people drive around with underinflated, or worn tires.

Also, you've got to love those car chase videos where some kid is driving way to fast and discovers what happens when you give it too much steering input. Fishtail, then he never catches it.

Weird things happen over 100mph.

You have never driven a Porsche, have you.

Sure have.

At speed.

Did it get 'floaty' over 100Mph?

Nope.

So what do you suggest, they give special licenses to people with sports cars? Or do we let the guy with the Ford Fairmont take his chances.

 

[CFster]

Also, even with huge Porsche brakes, I'm not sure I wouldn't have bought it if a deer had walked out in front of me. I don't care how well the car stops or handles. The faster you go, the less time there is to react.

 

[pontifex]

"ordered the Jury at Winchester Crown Court to return a not guilty verdict to the charge of dangerous driving."

so what exactly IS dangerous driving?

"He went fast for a short time only on a straight road with excellent visibility. I have to rule whether speed alone can be the basis of a dangerous driving case. I reach the conclusion that it cannot."

so we don't know anything about the road conditions. he just based it on the speed and supposedly straight road with excellent visibility. does the kid have excellent vision?
what was the posted speed limit? how long is this "short time"? isn't the purpose of a speed limit to let you know the proper and safe speed for that part of the road?
he could have come upon another car at any time.

either way, you people are always going to come up with some excuse as to why its ok to do things like that.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: CFster

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: CFster

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: CFster
Not only that, but some cars get very floaty at high speeds. And who's to decide you're driving a particular car faster than it was designed for.

Not to mention that most people drive around with underinflated, or worn tires.

Also, you've got to love those car chase videos where some kid is driving way to fast and discovers what happens when you give it too much steering input. Fishtail, then he never catches it.

Weird things happen over 100mph.

You have never driven a Porsche, have you.

Sure have.

At speed.

Did it get 'floaty' over 100Mph?

Nope.

So what do you suggest, they give special licenses to people with sports cars? Or do we let the guy with the Ford Fairmont take his chances.

I'm not advocating the law is changed, I'm simply stating that it's a good judgement based upon the evidence at hand.

If the guy is driving a sack of crap at speeds that make the car dangerous then he should be dealt with. 150Mph is easy in any modern Porsche.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: CFster
Also, even with huge Porsche brakes, I'm not sure I wouldn't have bought it if a deer had walked out in front of me. I don't care how well the car stops or handles. The faster you go, the less time there is to react.

Not really a problem on the Isle of Wight...

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: pontifex
"ordered the Jury at Winchester Crown Court to return a not guilty verdict to the charge of dangerous driving."

so what exactly IS dangerous driving?

"He went fast for a short time only on a straight road with excellent visibility. I have to rule whether speed alone can be the basis of a dangerous driving case. I reach the conclusion that it cannot."

so we don't know anything about the road conditions. he just based it on the speed and supposedly straight road with excellent visibility. does the kid have excellent vision?
what was the posted speed limit? how long is this "short time"? isn't the purpose of a speed limit to let you know the proper and safe speed for that part of the road?
he could have come upon another car at any time.

either way, you people are always going to come up with some excuse as to why its ok to do things like that.

The judge obviously *did* have information about those factors, hence the judgement.

EDIT: It's a speed LIMIT not pace notes!