Judge Resigns After Sharing Image Of Noose In ‘Make America Great Again’ Post

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fskimospy

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Department of Justice is supposed to be impartial.

I believe that's the Republican's argument against the DOJ and the FBI with regards to the Trump investigation. To lay them low for showing ANY personal bias. I remember Democrats in P&N standing fiercely behind those people having normal human biases, for it to be expected even. That their bias in no way influenced their impartiality or ability to do their job.

Now that we've found the opposite bias in someone we want impartial, shall the principle actors in P&N flip their positions?

I agree, simply being a Trump supporter is not a reason to find someone impartial.

Show me something they did professionally that’s wrong.
 

K1052

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The law isn't x fine for Native Americans, y fine for Latinos, z fine for white people, etc. There are also many minority judges in place. Truth is, some people break the law more. Some demographics have been fooled by liberal mouthpieces in power and other "role models" to disregard authority and have been conditioned to disregard personal responsibility... "it isn't your fault" mentality. Go figure, more problems there. Thanks liberals.

Study after study finds significant racial bias in both prosecutorial decisions (charging) and sentencing.
 

cytg111

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The law isn't x fine for Native Americans, y fine for Latinos, z fine for white people, etc. There are also many minority judges in place. Truth is, some people break the law more. Some demographics have been fooled by liberal mouthpieces in power and other "role models" to disregard authority and have been conditioned to disregard personal responsibility... "it isn't your fault" mentality. Go figure, more problems there. Thanks liberals.

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Murdoch has scooped out your entire brain has he not? Sad.

From the thread just below :
 

SlowSpyder

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Murdoch has scooped out your entire brain has he not? Sad.

From the thread just below :


Cool you found something concerning about an officer. Did that officer show a history of racial problems, racist decision making? I'd be concerned about that officer's ability to apply law equally, but give me more than that...

And who cares, it isn't hard to find positive stories either.

Don't know who Murdoch is, other than the A Team.
 

SlowSpyder

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Yes, exactly my point. You don’t agree with what they say because it hurts your feelings. Reality doesn’t care about your feelings though.


No, the studies are made to reinforce predetermined beliefs. Social sciences / studies assume too much, it is not hard science. Carry on your social justice war, NPC. You're fighting ghosts, though.
 

fskimospy

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No, the studies are made to reinforce predetermined beliefs. Social sciences / studies assume too much, it is not hard science. Carry on your social justice war, NPC. You're fighting ghosts, though.

Thanks for proving my point again. Research tells you things that hurt your feelings so now you’ve declared entire fields illegitimate. Ironically, declaring that research into these topics is irredeemably biased has not prevented you from drawing conclusions based on nothing but anecdotes.

I’m not kidding, if I were to design a parody post where I was trying to make you look dumb and have you prove my points for me I can’t think of how I would do it better.

Nobody even needs to hack your account to make you look dumb, hahaha.
 

pauldun170

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Yes, it's stupid as hell, but a noose isn't JUST for racial lynchings...we have a long history of hanging criminals as well in this country.
Nooses are nothing but a rope used to kill people,
However
In the United States, nooses are universally accepted as a symbol of racial lynching.
Swastikas have been a symbol for all sorts of religious crap.
In the United States, swatikas are universally accepted a symbol of Nazi's.
Slaves have existed since men invented the term "come at me bruh" back in caveman days.
In the United States, the term Slavery is universally accepted as the term used to describe the system used in regards to blacks.

Anyone with there wits about them in the United States should know that a noose has a special meaning in the United States.
 

BoomerD

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Nooses are nothing but a rope used to kill people,
However
In the United States, nooses are universally accepted as a symbol of racial lynching.
Swastikas have been a symbol for all sorts of religious crap.
In the United States, swatikas are universally accepted a symbol of Nazi's.
Slaves have existed since men invented the term "come at me bruh" back in caveman days.
In the United States, the term Slavery is universally accepted as the term used to describe the system used in regards to blacks.

Anyone with there wits about them in the United States should know that a noose has a special meaning in the United States.


Yet death by hanging from the neck remains an option in a few states today...
 

blackangst1

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Sure but Trump's main shtick is that non-white immigrants coming from the South are rapists and criminals, so it's obvious the connotation here, whether conscious or subconscious, is racial. It's not like Trump's campaign is about reforming the criminal code to go after common law criminals.

If racism is all you look for, you'll find it.
 

blackangst1

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Nooses are nothing but a rope used to kill people,
However
In the United States, nooses are universally accepted as a symbol of racial lynching.
Swastikas have been a symbol for all sorts of religious crap.
In the United States, swatikas are universally accepted a symbol of Nazi's.
Slaves have existed since men invented the term "come at me bruh" back in caveman days.
In the United States, the term Slavery is universally accepted as the term used to describe the system used in regards to blacks.

Anyone with there wits about them in the United States should know that a noose has a special meaning in the United States.

Yep this.
 

cytg111

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Cool you found something concerning about an officer. Did that officer show a history of racial problems, racist decision making? I'd be concerned about that officer's ability to apply law equally, but give me more than that...

And who cares, it isn't hard to find positive stories either.

Don't know who Murdoch is, other than the A Team.
The subtle point *wooosh* I was making is that EVERYONE can go out in the wild fields of google and find some qualitative example of something that reinforces my already set preconceptions. My subtle point was that you do this shit ALL THE DAMN TIME and then "them libs did that"- bullshit.
 
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Maxima1

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Thanks for proving my point again. Research tells you things that hurt your feelings so now you’ve declared entire fields illegitimate. Ironically, declaring that research into these topics is irredeemably biased has not prevented you from drawing conclusions based on nothing but anecdotes.

I’m not kidding, if I were to design a parody post where I was trying to make you look dumb and have you prove my points for me I can’t think of how I would do it better.

Nobody even needs to hack your account to make you look dumb, hahaha.

Holy crap! No they don't. It's no wonder you have me on ignore, since you can't handle the truth. When you say "black people" you really mean "black men". And black men essentially get longer simply because it's correlated with crime, which is why white men get nailed more than black women. But no one crying about the racial disparities ever mentions the difference between the sexes. If this happens in a "patriarchy", how the fuck do you think will make the outcomes equal with races if each race have divergent crime rates?

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Paratus

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No, the studies are made to reinforce predetermined beliefs. Social sciences / studies assume too much, it is not hard science. Carry on your social justice war, NPC. You're fighting ghosts, though.

Climate science IS a hard science but you don’t believe that either.

Is there science you actually accept?
 

ewdotson

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Here's the article that chart is pulled from:


Here's a fun quote from that same article:

Race looms large, according to a November 2017 report from the sentencing commission. It found that black men in federal court are sentenced to 19.1 percent more time, on average, than white men who, at least on paper, committed the same crimes and have similar criminal histories.
 

alcoholbob

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If racism is all you look for, you'll find it.

True, this is why I avoid social media and the overreaction culture. However it's clear that hate crimes are up massively with a president that has a bullhorn that broadcasts racial stereotypes and outright bigotry. Pretending you dont see that is simply giving cover to it. Even if you decide to rationalize somehow that giving cover for this somehow isn't making the problem worse, it actually is because obfuscates the resistance and allows for more unnecessary deaths.
 

Paratus

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Holy crap! No they don't. It's no wonder you have me on ignore, since you can't handle the truth. When you say "black people" you really mean "black men". And black men essentially get longer simply because it's correlated with crime, which is why white men get nailed more than black women. But no one crying about the racial disparities ever mentions the difference between the sexes. If this happens in a "patriarchy", how the fuck do you think will make the outcomes equal with races if each race have divergent crime rates?

dagan-women-prisoners-11.png

This is a very naive and possibly biased interpretation. Did you bother to read the article below?

Here's the article that chart is pulled from:


Here's a fun quote from that same article:
 

SlowSpyder

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True, this is why I avoid social media and the overreaction culture. However it's clear that hate crimes are up massively with a president that has a bullhorn that broadcasts racial stereotypes and outright bigotry. Pretending you dont see that is simply giving cover to it. Even if you decide to rationalize somehow that giving cover for this somehow isn't making the problem worse, it actually is.


Hate crime aren't really up.
 

Maxima1

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This is a very naive and possibly biased interpretation. Did you bother to read the article below?

Why wouldn't you be able to compare sex to race differences from the same data? Judges like to give less harsh sentencing to women because women are seen as more innocent and harmless. In fact, that figure doesn't factor in the other stuff that makes it even more divergent (shee-it, 3 times the black-white gap in federal sentencing).

That disparity grows even larger when the full scope of discretionary decision-making is considered. Prosecutors exercise at least as much power as judges in sentencing because they decide what charges to bring after an arrest. A 2015 study from the University of Michigan Law School found that when such decisions are taken into account, sentences for men are on average 63 percent longer than sentences for women.

What's very naive is how people seem to be ignorant on the sex differences. There's a gap as well on all the other stuff people bitch about like ticketing.

Your quote appears cut off. What were you trying to quote from the article?
 

Paratus

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Why wouldn't you be able to compare sex to race differences from the same data? Judges like to give less harsh sentencing to women because women are seen as more innocent and harmless. In fact, that figure doesn't factor in the other stuff that makes it even more divergent (shee-it, 3 times the black-white gap in federal sentencing).

That disparity grows even larger when the full scope of discretionary decision-making is considered. Prosecutors exercise at least as much power as judges in sentencing because they decide what charges to bring after an arrest. A 2015 study from the University of Michigan Law School found that when such decisions are taken into account, sentences for men are on average 63 percent longer than sentences for women.

What's very naive is how people seem to be ignorant on the sex differences. There's a gap as well on all the other stuff people bitch about like ticketing.

Your quote appears cut off. What were you trying to quote from the article?

The article your chart is pulled from that @ewdotson linked to hypothesizes exactly why there is a significant difference between men and women. It’s was not because they “seem to be more innocent and harmless” but because in many of those cases there were threats and abuse that pushed them into committing the crime. Judges take extenuating circumstances into account when they sentence.

Most men are not abused or threatened by women into committing crimes at the same rates. Therefore it’s a difference that would explain much about the differences in the sentencing between sexes.
 

ch33zw1z

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'Murica, founded on disrespecting authoritah, wants you to submit to it's authoritah. This time, THIS time, it will work out