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Judge Imposes Smoking Ban on Mother

Jimbo

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<< A judge has ordered a smoker to stop lighting up at home or in her car if she wants continued visitation rights with her 13-year-old son who has complained about her pack-a-day habit. Justice Robert Julian, of Utica, issued the ban although the youth is not allergic to tobacco smoke and doesn't suffer from a health condition, such as asthma, that would be worsened by it. >>


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I love this stuff, NOT!
What is next? Suspend visitation if your parent serves a high fat diet for dinner? Statistically this is several times higher of a risk rate than FIRST hand smoking.
Essentially what it comes down to is that this little puke does not like the way her house smells.
 
I don't think the judge should have ordered that.. the court has no authority to do such a thing.

However, I think the mom should have stopped smoking at her child's request.
 


<< I don't think the judge should have ordered that.. the court has no authority to do such a thing.

However, I think the mom should have stopped smoking at her child's request.
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I agree. But there is always more than one side to a story. The judge is probably fed up with the mother for numerous reasons, as I would often be if I was a judge dealing with divorce and visitation, and is just doing what he feels is right for the child.
 
what's the big deal?

the kid doesn't want to see his mom, what are you going to do, force the kid to see her against his will? yea, that's healthy.



<< Nicholas' law guardian, William Koslosky, of Utica, said the teen is in excellent health, but told him last August that he didn't want to visit his mother because she smokes.
"Nicholas was ashamed that his mother was a smoker," the lawyer said. "He said his mother's house reeked."
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Essentially what it comes down to is that this little puke does not like the way her house smells.

little puke? that little puke has more sense than his mother.

besides, before you pass judgement, take any smell you find physically repulsive. now imagine living in a house that reeked of it.
 
I don't think the judge should have gone this far.

We probably haven't heard the last of this yet.

Jeff
 


<< "The house reeked"
Waaaaa. Grow up and buy your own damn house.
The courts have gone insane.
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The kid DOESN'T WANT to go visit the house cause it stinks of cigarettes, but is forced to cause of his mom's visitation rights.
If the kid got a choice at all he wouldn't go there in the first place.

Smokers should get the gas chamber. Or even better: the electric chair. Let them smoke one last time.
 
I think it should be illegal for people to smoke around other people. It should also be illegal for pregnant mothers to smoke. I don't see why anyone should be harmed by other peoples' habits. We're gonna start seeing this stuff very soon. In Canada, it is already illegal to smoke in the presence of minors, and in public places that aren't equipped with separately-ventilated smoking rooms. They're also coming out with a new law that will make it illegal to smoke indoors, period.
 


<< Smokers should get the gas chamber. Or even better: the electric chair. Let them smoke one last time. >>


Now YOU"VE gone insane. And, no, I'm not a smoker.
 
yes people have the right to smoke just as long as the cloud doesn't enter my body...

just as i have right to own a gun as long as the bullets doesn't enter their body....

 
Not entirely related to this case but...

Few years ago I was going to buy some groceries. In the shops parking-lot I passed a carr that was just about to leave. There was a man, a woman and a small baby in a baby-carriage in the car. Both the man and the woman smoked, and the windows of the car were closed. The car was full of smoke. I wanted to walk over to them and b!tch-slap them both! All that smoke propably was REALLY good for the child :|!
 


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<< Smokers should get the gas chamber. Or even better: the electric chair. Let them smoke one last time. >>


Now YOU"VE gone insane. And, no, I'm not a smoker.
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I've not gone insane, I always was.

Anyway, most smokers refuse to give up smoking for any reason, but presume you won't complain if the smoke bothers you.
If you feel like f*cking up your body with all the crap in cigarettes, fine, go ahead. Same if you want to use other drugs, or if you just want to put a gun against your head. But do it in such a way that you don't bother me with it.
Alcoholics usually don't force the people around them to drink as well, junks don't force others to use cocaine, but smokers do force others to smoke with them.
 


<< before you pass judgement, take any smell you find physically repulsive. now imagine living in a house that reeked of it. >>



I find most perfumes repulsive also people that eat with their mouths open skinny bony people are also kinda nasty but I?ve got to live with them, what about dumb ass drunks I find them very repulsive. I agree with the people here about smoking around the child or around other people in closed environments but a judge telling her she has to quit is just stupid.





<< Smokers should get the gas chamber. Or even better: the electric chair. Let them smoke one last time. >>



People who make idiotic statements like that should be institutionalized in a very secure setting.
 
actually this was actually mentioned in the should gays be allowed to adopt and most people that felt that gays shouldnt be allowed to adopt also felt that smokers should not be allowed to adopt.


i realize that those are different situations, but if she really wanted to see her son, don't you think she woulda quit smoking w/o the judges order. doesnt' the fact that the judge had to order it say anything at all about her character?
 
I have asthma and allergies because my mother smoked while she was pregnant with me, and several years after she had me too.

If a child does not wish to be around cigarette smoke, there is no reason why they should be forced to endure it. You have to be nuts to deny that it's a health risk.
 


<< Anyway, most smokers refuse to give up smoking for any reason, but presume you won't complain if the smoke bothers you.
If you feel like f*cking up your body with all the crap in cigarettes, fine, go ahead. Same if you want to use other drugs, or if you just want to put a gun against your head. But do it in such a way that you don't bother me with it.
Alcoholics usually don't force the people around them to drink as well, junks don't force others to use cocaine, but smokers do force others to smoke with them.
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Now THAT I agree with. And that's my point, the courts need to stay out of her house.

Edit: And WTH is Feng Shui? 😕
 
The kid requested it. It's actually about god damn time courts started actually listening to the needs of the kids instead of making decisions for them.
 
The funny thing?

While smoking rates plummeted during the 80s and 90s, the rates of childhood asthma skyrocketed.
 
Big deal, she has to walk outside to smoke now. Maybe now she'll learn not to stink up the place where ever she goes.
 


<< yes people have the right to smoke just as long as the cloud doesn't enter my body...

just as i have right to own a gun as long as the bullets doesn't enter their body....
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but yet you are perfectly willing to absorb the millions of tons of smog in the air that will have far greater danger to you than the occasional smoker that you just *cant* tolerate.

some people amaze me.
 
I don't think we should ban smoking at someone's home but it should be banned in public places. In this case I don't think the child should be forced to go to his mother?s house, visitation rights or not.

Also I think schmookies should be outrageously taxed. The $5.00 per pack in NY isn't nearly enough. I think cigs should cost at least $20 per pack that would help get many to quit and those that don't will be paying for our roads to be repaired, nice smoke free public parks and maybe the taxes on my house will come down.

It makes me question how much a parent cares about their child when they smoke around them. You should just teach your infant to smoke too there is no difference. It's neglect, abuse and simply ignorant. But people don't learn. They clutch to their cancer stick and say "if I quit I'll just be hit by a bus tomorrow". Well if you are a parent then quit thinking about yourself and give the welfare of your child some consideration.

BTW, I quit last year. I had a feeling that my wife was pregnant with my first child so I thought what would be the greatest gift I can give my child?

TMP
 
Good deal! Go outside and smoke. I wouldn't put up with living with that sh!t either.

I don't know about you, but as a non-smoker, smoke is ABSOLUTELY irritating, disgusting, smelly, and it gets in your fuggin' clothes so that YOU now wreak of it. If you want to smoke; fine. But don't subject everyone else to your disgusting FILTH!

 
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