Jon Stewart's observation on the big 3 cable news networks

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EXman

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: EXman
[You should listen to all the news networks and make your own decision on what you are seeing. There is almost no undigested raw news that isn't prepacked with an angle some someone. Hell even live remotes sometimes a journalist goes in so closed minded you can see that it is bullshit even while the the tape is rolling and the opposite is happening right behind them.
That's why I prefer to get my news from the Net, all Broadcast news is biased. Fox news would be acceptable if they got rid of all the pinched faced harpies like Hannity, O'Riely,Beck, the 3 stooges in the Morning and a few others. In fact if they got rid of Roger Ailes their credibility would increase 10 fold.

Net News is good but also could be just as unreliable is there a particular place that you think is a good source?

Funny thing is the lefties have so many puppets running so many other less popular "news" outlets I cannot even state more than Rick Sanchez, Madow, Olberman, and Chris "Softball" mattews names. Man that Madow woman is unatractive and BOOOOORING and plain just not funny. I bet that show gets the axe soon.

Don't be Alarmed I don't Like Rush either he is a blow hard! But I have heard him say on many occasions that he is not a journalist.
 

Slick5150

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Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
Another reason why I mostly tune in to BBC when I am interested in world news. Stewart is a little off on CNN though. The times that I occasionally watch it, most of the hosts will dedicate a little bit of time for viewers opinions. It's definitely not as much as Stewart makes it out to be. CNN is also home to probably the most neutral/unbiased reporter - Anderson Cooper.

This.

Its amazing that once you watch BBC News, you realize just how insane all 3 of those networks are with not only how they cover stories, but in choosing what stories to cover in the first place. Its pathetic.


 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: Slick5150
Its amazing that once you watch BBC News, you realize just how insane all 3 of those networks are with not only how they cover stories, but in choosing what stories to cover in the first place. Its pathetic.

You make a valuable point about how eye-opening it is for network/cable viewers not to realize how bad the news is until they see better.

It's not as if the viewers of these programs usually watch them understanding how badly they're being 'informed', rather they think they are informed and the world is nuts.
 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: EXman
Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: umbrella39
After watching the Fox clips I am still amazed people actually tune in and watch this piece of shit "news" organization that peddles such hatred an lies. MSNBC has a hard on for Rush. CNN has turned into the please like us network. Don't tune them in, problem long since solved.


Want to help? Support sites like www.salon.com, support media watchdog groups like right-wing media watchdog www.mediamatters.org, support PBS (Frontline, Bill Moyers).

Pay for your news a little - if you aren't paying for it, someone who has another agenda is, and you are not going necessariy going to get good info.

Which sentence do you want us to follow? The Second contradicts the fist. Even MSNBC calls MediaMatters LIBERAL. Wow if MSNBC calls them liberal I guess they are uberliberal. More doublespeak from the left.

Fair enough - I did not point out that there is a class of 'truthtellers' that are sometimes motivated for reasons other than profit to add to the public discussion.

Media Matters is founded by someone who was part of the right-wing media, and came to see it as a very dishonest and dangerous media, and who wants to expose it.

It is 'liberal' insofar as being aimed against right-wing sites, but that doedn't make it wrong.

Salon.com is a business and a liberal orientation - and it has an ethic of telling the truth.

Both of these sites rely on member donations, which is what I'm talking about that if you want the truth they tell, donate for it, that's how you get to be the priority.

When you watch tv news owned by Feneral Electric, there are a whole lot of filters and agenda not having anything to do with your interests, other than to make it 'appealing'.

But not appelaing in the good sense that a Salon is by giving you good info, rather appealing in the 'you are just a consumer' sense, to your baser interests, if not 'fear'.
 

Mr. Lennon

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Originally posted by: EXman
Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
Originally posted by: Patranus
Burp....
Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/01/fox-news-claims-9-of-top_n_181878.html
Top 10 Cable News Programs, Q1 2009 (by total viewers)
1. The O'Reilly Factor: 3,438,000 total viewers
2. Hannity: 2,579,000 total viewers
3. Glenn Beck: 2,271,000 total viewers
4. Special Report with Bret Baier: 2,092,000 total viewers
5. On the Record with Greta Van Susteren: 1,977,000 total viewers
6. The FOX Report with Shepard Smith: 1,927,000 total viewers
7. The O'Reilly Factor (repeat): 1,457,000 total viewers
8. America's Newsroom: 1,445,000 total viewers
9. Your World with Neil Cavuto: 1,428,000 total viewers
10. Countdown with Keith Olbermann: 1,327,000 total viewers

Looks like the Republicans do all the TV watching. Hmm....looks like their might be a positive correlation in regards to their low intellect.....

You're a boob. When you have one dissenting voice that roughly 50% of America wants to hear opposed to the all the other news outlets that lean left it is to be expected. The right doesn't have the shear volume of media outlets. If not for Fox the news would be one big Obama circle jerk. Is that not almost state run media? Fox has warts but to say that it is the worst is not being fair, honest or unbiased.

For one, there is no such thing as "state run" media. Just another wing nut term. I'm neither a democrat or republican, but I will say Fox is by far the worst station. No other station spreads the amount of hate and lies that Fox does.
 

Ichigo

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Originally posted by: EXman
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: EXman
[You should listen to all the news networks and make your own decision on what you are seeing. There is almost no undigested raw news that isn't prepacked with an angle some someone. Hell even live remotes sometimes a journalist goes in so closed minded you can see that it is bullshit even while the the tape is rolling and the opposite is happening right behind them.
That's why I prefer to get my news from the Net, all Broadcast news is biased. Fox news would be acceptable if they got rid of all the pinched faced harpies like Hannity, O'Riely,Beck, the 3 stooges in the Morning and a few others. In fact if they got rid of Roger Ailes their credibility would increase 10 fold.

Net News is good but also could be just as unreliable is there a particular place that you think is a good source?

Funny thing is the lefties have so many puppets running so many other less popular "news" outlets I cannot even state more than Rick Sanchez, Madow, Olberman, and Chris "Softball" mattews names. Man that Madow woman is unatractive and BOOOOORING and plain just not funny. I bet that show gets the axe soon.

Don't be Alarmed I don't Like Rush either he is a blow hard! But I have heard him say on many occasions that he is not a journalist.

The statement in bold damages your credibility.
 

Carmen813

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I actually have a pretty favorable opinion of Maddow. She's obviously a liberal, but I've yet to see anyone else let Ron Paul sit on the channel and speak for 3-4 minutes uninterrupted. I think she gives the guests she has on the show a chance to speak their mind. I've never really seen her shout over anyone either, unlike pretty much every male host on TV.
 

datalink7

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I generally listen to NPR going to work in the morning and then occasionally The News Hour at night.
 

EXman

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Originally posted by: Ichigo
Originally posted by: EXman
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: EXman
[You should listen to all the news networks and make your own decision on what you are seeing. There is almost no undigested raw news that isn't prepacked with an angle some someone. Hell even live remotes sometimes a journalist goes in so closed minded you can see that it is bullshit even while the the tape is rolling and the opposite is happening right behind them.
That's why I prefer to get my news from the Net, all Broadcast news is biased. Fox news would be acceptable if they got rid of all the pinched faced harpies like Hannity, O'Riely,Beck, the 3 stooges in the Morning and a few others. In fact if they got rid of Roger Ailes their credibility would increase 10 fold.

Net News is good but also could be just as unreliable is there a particular place that you think is a good source?

Funny thing is the lefties have so many puppets running so many other less popular "news" outlets I cannot even state more than Rick Sanchez, Madow, Olberman, and Chris "Softball" mattews names. Man that Madow woman is unatractive and BOOOOORING and plain just not funny. I bet that show gets the axe soon.

Don't be Alarmed I don't Like Rush either he is a blow hard! But I have heard him say on many occasions that he is not a journalist.

The statement in bold damages your credibility.

Sure I understand that but it really seems that they are overtrying with her. If it wasn't obvious that they were trying to gussy her up it might be different but they are trying to Greta Van Susteran her. I.E. take a smart woman and overhaul her looks to a point where it is almost uncomfortable for them. I'm not saying she got sugery like van Susteran but there is a possibility. It's just distracting. But her delivery of her "news" and her commentary is awful she always starts smiling before she is done reading the teleprompter kinda like someone telling a joke and starting to laugh before they get to the punchline because they think the punchline is so funny. Amature hour. To be honest many channels have people like this and Fox is not immune.
 

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Originally posted by: Patranus
Burp....
Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/01/fox-news-claims-9-of-top_n_181878.html
Top 10 Cable News Programs, Q1 2009 (by total viewers)
1. The O'Reilly Factor: 3,438,000 total viewers
2. Hannity: 2,579,000 total viewers
3. Glenn Beck: 2,271,000 total viewers
4. Special Report with Bret Baier: 2,092,000 total viewers
5. On the Record with Greta Van Susteren: 1,977,000 total viewers
6. The FOX Report with Shepard Smith: 1,927,000 total viewers
7. The O'Reilly Factor (repeat): 1,457,000 total viewers
8. America's Newsroom: 1,445,000 total viewers
9. Your World with Neil Cavuto: 1,428,000 total viewers
10. Countdown with Keith Olbermann: 1,327,000 total viewers

If you really believe that's a good indication of news quality, I am deeply concerned.
 

ElFenix

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after CNN's ridiculous failure in coverage since friday i no longer will bother watching cable news.
 

CanOWorms

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Most people get their news on the Internet and have expanded to more than just the standard journalism options of the old days. TV news died out a while ago, turning into TV commentary to avoid the death that newspapers are currently experiencing. Those ratings posted previously are pathetic - less than 1% of the population are even watching those programs anyways.
 

bozack

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Originally posted by: Craig234

Media Matters is founded by someone who was part of the right-wing media, and came to see it as a very dishonest and dangerous media, and who wants to expose it.

It is 'liberal' insofar as being aimed against right-wing sites, but that doedn't make it wrong.

Salon.com is a business and a liberal orientation - and it has an ethic of telling the truth.

Right Craig, this is a laugh and I love the double standard, so because they are open about their slant they are "ok", and the latter about salon has an ethic about telling the truth...sure but with a heavy dose of liberal viewpoint dumped on it...

I would sooner support a watchdog group that was a bit more impartial than one which has their sights aimed on one groups actions, either that or to be fair one has to support both a group that monitors the right as well as one which keeps the left in check.

But you suggesting people support only the lefty sites is somehow unsuprising as usual.
 

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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
I can't watch the clip at work, but does he mention how MSNBC and CNN continually show their editors and anchors slobbing Obama's dick 24/7?

No, because after 8 years of Faux being under the desk for GWB it's still a mess. I heard Obama can't even put his feet on the floor.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Most people get their news on the Internet and have expanded to more than just the standard journalism options of the old days. TV news died out a while ago, turning into TV commentary to avoid the death that newspapers are currently experiencing. Those ratings posted previously are pathetic - less than 1% of the population are even watching those programs anyways.
This!