Joining the Navy at 27?

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Minjin

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My cousin is joining at 28. He has a bachelors degree, but he is enlisting anyway. :(
Tell him he is a fool. I've been part of the enlisted world and the officer world. Being an officer is infinitely better. The only reason to be enlisted is if you absolutely hate dealing with other people and can't handle any responsibility.
 

Jumpem

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Tell him he is a fool. I've been part of the enlisted world and the officer world. Being an officer is infinitely better. The only reason to be enlisted is if you absolutely hate dealing with other people and can't handle any responsibility.

It's already been done. He ships out next month. He enlisted because he "doesn't want to be a manager".
 

Minjin

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It's already been done. He ships out next month. He enlisted because he "doesn't want to be a manager".
Luckily there are a few programs (Seaman to Admiral) in place for when he realizes how wrong he is.
 

Nintendesert

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Don't live your life with the regret of someone that "was going to join but..." If you want to join then do it. You'll run across tons of people that come up to you telling you about their regrets in not joining.

You don't want to be one of those.
 

skyofavalon

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Don't join,you're gonna die for politicians that don't care about you.You will have no rights.You will be property of the Government. Don't do It.
 

Nebor

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Don't join,you're gonna die for politicians that don't care about you.You will have no rights.You will be property of the Government. Don't do It.

In the Navy? Unlikely. Not saying they haven't pulled their weight in the GWOT, but your odds of dying in the Navy are pretty low. And you have lots of rights as a service member. Did you not enjoy your time in the service?
 

Zebo

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My cousin is joining at 28. He has a bachelors degree, but he is enlisting anyway. :(

Half the money despite eligible for twice? he deserves enlisted. What a tool. And wastato of 4 yrs plus whatever he did for other 7... could have been 11b at 17 and half retired.
 
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Zebo

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In the Navy? Unlikely. Not saying they haven't pulled their weight in the GWOT, but your odds of dying in the Navy are pretty low. And you have lots of rights as a service member. Did you not enjoy your time in the service?

Just wearing the bell bottoms is pulling weight, I'd rather be shot than wear that.
 

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Just wearing the bell bottoms is pulling weight, I'd rather be shot than wear that.

I was looking at the new ASUs. We took the Navy's hat for female officer. Thing looks ridiculous.
 

dainthomas

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I was looking at the new ASUs. We took the Navy's hat for female officer. Thing looks ridiculous.

Call me old-school, but I liked the old dungarees. It used to be if you wanted to wear BDUs for no reason, you joined the Air Force. :thumbsdown:
 

Apathetic

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Why not join ROTC right now if you gotta a couple years left? They will pick up tab from here on out and you get a chance to see if you dig military life. If not you just pay em back.

I'd also recommend seeing if navy ROTC is an option at your school.

Dave
 

Axon

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I've also heard that officer pay is exempt from federal tax. True or untrue? That's a nice boon if so.

I strongly considered joining Army or Navy JAG during and after law school, but decided against it because I had planted roots with my girl. I actually regret missing the chance at 26. Be advised that the processes seemed far more competitive than I had anticipated, though I was told by the recruiter that the interview process was the key. He stressed that the concept behind recruitment was to look at the "whole person," a combination of objective and subjective traits, before a decision is made. Only 4% of law school applicants are chosen for Navy JAG. I'm not sure what officer school is like, but I bet the rate is becoming similar.
 
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Zebo

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I've also heard that officer pay is exempt from federal tax. True or untrue? That's a nice boon if so.

I strongly considered joining Army or Navy JAG during and after law school, but decided against it because I had planted roots with my girl. I actually regret missing the chance at 26. Be advised that the processes seemed far more competitive than I had anticipated, though I was told by the recruiter that the interview process was the key. He stressed that the concept behind recruitment was to look at the "whole person," a combination of objective and subjective traits, before a decision is made. Only 4% of law school applicants are chosen for Navy JAG. I'm not sure what officer school is like, but I bet the rate is becoming similar.
No. In war zone a good amount is tax free for everyone. PM don vito he was a jag.


Definitely with 75% of new grads unemployed it will be competitive. Unless you're an MD hell they let terrorists stay on duty in that field..
 
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Nebor

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All military pay while deployed to a combat zone is tax free, up to $6,315.90 a month. That means that for many officers, a part of their pay will still be taxed. However no enlisted personnel are taxed while in theater.
 

EagleKeeper

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Officer pay is not exempt.

Some speciality pay and combat pay are exempt from taxes.
The 11K/month figure that was tossed out would be what the value of benefits and pay is calculated to be, by rank.
Recruiters and braggers love to throw that number around.

A decent salary will not be obtained while a O1/O2. (as an O1, my kids were elgible for free lunches, yet we had a 4 bd house on base)
Once you push the O3 and above, pay starts aligning up near the civilian world.
 

Zebo

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Call me old-school, but I liked the old dungarees. It used to be if you wanted to wear BDUs for no reason, you joined the Air Force. :thumbsdown:

LOL. Plus the girls. The food. The Land. The only service that sends officers into battle save pararesue. Smart.
 

JS80

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My buddy joined the Navy (UC grad, had finance career) at 27 for career change and dropped out 6 months later.
 

Nebor

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How can you just drop out of the military?

If he was 6 months in he was probably still in initial entry training. As long as you have a sympathetic commander, you can be separated as if you'd never been in.
 

chusteczka

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If it interests you then look more into it and do it. The age of 27 is not too late. You need to be physically fit, able to run, jump, do pushups, pullups, and such.

Be aware that you basically put your life to the side and put the military first. Family becomes second. The divorce rate is high in the navy. A deployed sailor does not have the panache that an army or marine officer has. While you are out on deployment with the fleet, your wife (if you have one) is sitting at home lonely. Many wives fail this test of loyalty. But then many wives fail similar tests of loyalty in the civilian world also.

Navy.com - Careers & Jobs
http://www.navy.com/navy/joining/qualifications.html
 

classy

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27 is not old at all. Going in as an officer to boot. I know a guy who went through basic who was in his forties. He had to get a waver, but he made it through.