John Titor (AKA the internet time travel guy) spooks me.

[beer]

Originally posted by: Sifl

Originally posted by: Elemental007
Also, it is worth mentioning that your 'prediction' is dated 2/01. Seeing as how NASA had been launching shuttles with components to add-on to the space station every four months since 1999, and construction is supposed to continue for six years or something, there was a high probability that at some time in the course of the decade-long construction, there would have been problems. That is not explicit in any sens eof the word.

His predictions in their entirety, when compared to Nostradamus are pretty explicit. Dates, events, etc. Don't get overly focused on the minutiae.

John Titor 'appeared' in 2001. He was predicting things that already went underway. We were *already* constructing the ISS using shuttles to install the parts. Nostradamus made his predictions centuries ago about things centuries into the future. That is why John Titor's 'predictions' appear to be so specific. There was a high probability of at least one shuttle mission going bad with the ISS construction. Considering it appears something like 50 missions are required to assemble it, it is not very explicit.

 

[beer]

Originally posted by: Sifl

Originally posted by: Elemental007
Every shuttle for the last 4 years has had ISS equipment on board. In other words, anyone that was posing as John Titor in 2001 would have known this. What is your point?

And your explanation of parallel universes is hokey at best. Of course, so is the notion of time travel into the past.

Current quantum physics supports this theory. Dive into string theory if you're curious about it, fascinating stuff.

I'm sorry, I place string theory in the same category as philosophy.

String theory predicts many things which we have not yet observed.

1) have we seen gravity violate the conservation laws by directly observing a gravitron, as predicted by string theory, which says that gravitons pass through membranes? No.

2) Have we observed *any* of the particles of string theory that should exist? No.

String theory is still a philosophy and there is little evidence to suggest that our universe is any different than the Standard Model predicts. Just because we can't solve some of the questions posed by gravity does not mean that the standard model is inherently flawed.

 

[iwearnosox]

Originally posted by: Elemental007

Originally posted by: Sifl

Originally posted by: Elemental007
Also, it is worth mentioning that your 'prediction' is dated 2/01. Seeing as how NASA had been launching shuttles with components to add-on to the space station every four months since 1999, and construction is supposed to continue for six years or something, there was a high probability that at some time in the course of the decade-long construction, there would have been problems. That is not explicit in any sens eof the word.

His predictions in their entirety, when compared to Nostradamus are pretty explicit. Dates, events, etc. Don't get overly focused on the minutiae.

John Titor 'appeared' in 2001. He was predicting things that already went underway. We were *already* constructing the ISS using shuttles to install the parts. Nostradamus made his predictions centuries ago about things centuries into the future. That is why John Titor's 'predictions' appear to be so specific. There was a high probability of at least one shuttle mission going bad with the ISS construction. Considering it appears something like 50 missions are required to assemble it, it is not very explicit.

I agree, which is why I consider this single example minutiae, albiet interesting enough to invite further discussion. As harcore stated the bulk of his specific statements are due to come to fruition in the coming years.

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: Sifl

Originally posted by: Elemental007
Every shuttle for the last 4 years has had ISS equipment on board. In other words, anyone that was posing as John Titor in 2001 would have known this. What is your point?

And your explanation of parallel universes is hokey at best. Of course, so is the notion of time travel into the past.

I'd like to know, just from a scientific and analytical perspective what percentage of shuttles have a "lab" on them. For some reason that aspect speaks to me more than the ISS implications.

All the shuttles have a lab. That's waht they were built for. The predication was connecting the ISS lab to the ISS, and there was a problem with it.

 

[beer]

Originally posted by: Sifl

Originally posted by: Elemental007
Every shuttle for the last 4 years has had ISS equipment on board. In other words, anyone that was posing as John Titor in 2001 would have known this. What is your point?

And your explanation of parallel universes is hokey at best. Of course, so is the notion of time travel into the past.

I'd like to know, just from a scientific and analytical perspective what percentage of shuttles have a "lab" on them. For some reason that aspect speaks to me more than the ISS implications.

Shuttles are research vessels. As such, every shuttle has a 'lab.' on it. Shuttles are not redesigned for each mission! They just carry different payloads and different experiments.l The ISS is a lab used for longer duration experiments. The payload of most recent shuttle flights have been components to install on the ISS. I fail to see the point of your question. Shuttles carry components to assemble the ISS, and research can be conducted on both the shuttle and the ISS. The ISS's main reason for existance is that we have experimented with everything we could have with low-earth, short-duration trips, aka shuttles. We needed a more fixed point in space to conduct experiments, such as the ISS.

However, in all your posts, you have no provided one solid bit of evidence that you aren't a tool, as I posted in my second post.

You appearantly know nothing about shuttles or the ISS, given your references to Columbia, Challenger, and the presence of 'labs' on board shuttles;

You assume string theory to be fact when not a single shred of evidence has been found to support its existance;

You assume john titor's predictions to be true, when in fact he did generalize about somthing that was already happening in 2001, when he 'appeared.' The ISS construction was already under way and a timetable had been laid out that called for construction over the course of like 8 years, all with space shuttles. You then fail to understand the significance of this, and compare it to nostradamus.

 

[iwearnosox]

Originally posted by: Elemental007

Originally posted by: Sifl

Originally posted by: Elemental007
Every shuttle for the last 4 years has had ISS equipment on board. In other words, anyone that was posing as John Titor in 2001 would have known this. What is your point?

And your explanation of parallel universes is hokey at best. Of course, so is the notion of time travel into the past.

Current quantum physics supports this theory. Dive into string theory if you're curious about it, fascinating stuff.

I'm sorry, I place string theory in the same category as philosophy.

String theory predicts many things which we have not yet observed.

1) have we seen gravity violate the conservation laws by directly observing a gravitron, as predicted by string theory, which says that gravitons pass through membranes? No.

2) Have we observed *any* of the particles of string theory that should exist? No.

String theory is still a philosophy and there is little evidence to suggest that our universe is any different than the Standard Model predicts. Just because we can't solve some of the questions posed by gravity does not mean that the standard model is inherently flawed.

Minds greater than ours are currently debating these things, I can hardly wait for the answers. Debating string theory and quantum physics is beyond the scope of my posts intention, but let's dive into it sometime. I'd love to hear your thoughts.

 

[beer]

Originally posted by: Sifl
I agree, which is why I consider this single example minutiae, albiet interesting enough to invite further discussion. As harcore stated the bulk of his specific statements are due to come to fruition in the coming years.

I still find it amusing that you are assuming that anything he says has a significant change of coming true.

 

[iwearnosox]

Originally posted by: Elemental007

Originally posted by: Sifl

Originally posted by: Elemental007
Every shuttle for the last 4 years has had ISS equipment on board. In other words, anyone that was posing as John Titor in 2001 would have known this. What is your point?

And your explanation of parallel universes is hokey at best. Of course, so is the notion of time travel into the past.

I'd like to know, just from a scientific and analytical perspective what percentage of shuttles have a "lab" on them. For some reason that aspect speaks to me more than the ISS implications.

Shuttles are research vessels. As such, every shuttle has a 'lab.' on it. Shuttles are not redesigned for each mission! They just carry different payloads and different experiments.l The ISS is a lab used for longer duration experiments. The payload of most recent shuttle flights have been components to install on the ISS. I fail to see the point of your question. Shuttles carry components to assemble the ISS, and research can be conducted on both the shuttle and the ISS. The ISS's main reason for existance is that we have experimented with everything we could have with low-earth, short-duration trips, aka shuttles. We needed a more fixed point in space to conduct experiments, such as the ISS.

However, in all your posts, you have no provided one solid bit of evidence that you aren't a tool, as I posted in my second post.

You appearantly know nothing about shuttles or the ISS, given your references to Columbia, Challenger, and the presence of 'labs' on board shuttles;

You assume string theory to be fact when not a single shred of evidence has been found to support its existance;

You assume john titor's predictions to be true, when in fact he did generalize about somthing that was already happening in 2001, when he 'appeared.' The ISS construction was already under way and a timetable had been laid out that called for construction over the course of like 8 years, all with space shuttles. You then fail to understand the significance of this, and compare it to nostradamus.

I make mention of Nostradamus only to speak to previous mentions of him, none of which I was the catalyst for.

While I understand the technical assertion of "lab" my question was merely to if there was a mission designation in that regard. Yes, I asked a question about something I'm unfamiliar with. Oh no!

Nowhere did I assume anything of his to be true, you're trying to put words in my mouth (again.)

Arguing string theory on the internet is like winning the special olympics...

You digress to name calling because I'm merely interested in gaining some perspectives and having a dicussion. It's unfortunate you're wired that way.

 

[iwearnosox]

Originally posted by: Elemental007

Originally posted by: Sifl
I agree, which is why I consider this single example minutiae, albiet interesting enough to invite further discussion. As harcore stated the bulk of his specific statements are due to come to fruition in the coming years.

I still find it amusing that you are assuming that anything he says has a significant change of coming true.

I really don't, you're merely making assumptions of your own. Which is more amusement for me.

 

[iwearnosox]

It's late, thanks for the chat and abuse. Gotta sleep. 😀

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: Sifl
Without using google quickly tell me what the mission of the first shuttle to explode was. I certainly don't know, so I'm willing to provide a little latitude. He mentions a lab on board which was true, and the experiments it contained was for space station research.

Having said that I'm not proclaiming it a true prediction, but I do find it creepy.

You're reaching, which is exactly what believers of Nostradamus do as well. His prediction here is simply wrong in regards to any problem during the connection.