John Stewart OWNED Bernard Goldberg on July 13th

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Amused
He is merely exposing their agendas for those too myopic to see it.

Like he doesn't have an agenda of his own which many myopic individuals follow. It's like a Rat calling a Squirrel a rodent.

Everyone has an agenda. Goldberg doesn't try to hide his. That's the difference.

And what makes him different than the others? When they speak out on something political how are they "trying to hide" anything?

Many on the list wrap their agenda up in movies, music, TV shows or in Stewart's case, comedy. Look at the prevailing opinion in TV shows and movies. It's passed off in everyday scenarios through this media everyday.

You can have a totally non-political show like "Six Feet Under" where, in nearly every episode, an anti-corporate, anti-capitalist, anti Bush or anti-right wing comment is made in passing. Hell, in five episodes in a row last year, the main male character seen as the most positive, respectable person on the show made an anti-Bush comment.

And that's just a single example among countless ones.

I still don't see how they are trying to hide anything by your examples and I definately don't see any negative aspects of it.

Again, negative is a matter of opinion. If you oppose the leftist/socialist mindset, then it is very negative.

 

[BigJ]

For anybody who denies that celebrities have an influence on the ideals and thoughts of the general public, I suggest you take an intro-level Popular Culture class.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Amused
He is merely exposing their agendas for those too myopic to see it.

Like he doesn't have an agenda of his own which many myopic individuals follow. It's like a Rat calling a Squirrel a rodent.

Everyone has an agenda. Goldberg doesn't try to hide his. That's the difference.

And what makes him different than the others? When they speak out on something political how are they "trying to hide" anything?

Many on the list wrap their agenda up in movies, music, TV shows or in Stewart's case, comedy. Look at the prevailing opinion in TV shows and movies. It's passed off in everyday scenarios through this media everyday.

You can have a totally non-political show like "Six Feet Under" where, in nearly every episode, an anti-corporate, anti-capitalist, anti Bush or anti-right wing comment is made in passing. Hell, in five episodes in a row last year, the main male character seen as the most positive, respectable person on the show made an anti-Bush comment.

And that's just a single example among countless ones.

I still don't see how they are trying to hide anything by your examples and I definately don't see any negative aspects of it.

Again, negative is a matter of opinion. If you oppose the leftist/socialist mindset, then it is very negative.

Only if I were to consider the voting public as being a bunch of mindless sheep incapable of making informed decisions. I think that the fact that the country was almost equally divided between Dumb and Dumber during the 2004 Presidential Elections proves that for the most part they aren't.

 

[tcsenter]

I'll give Stewart some credit for taking token but not rare shots at liberals, he's a helluva lot less partisan than Carson Daly-wacker. For like 10 consecutive shows before the 2004 election, Daly invited his leftwing freak-friends on his show to bash conservatives and Bush for the entire time slot. At the time, I didn't really know about Daly's unashamedly partisan leanings, so after watching one of his shows I thought "I wonder if he's gonna have a pro-Dem on one night and a pro-Rep on the next night, or something?"

BAHAHAH! Or something.

Uhh, there is no reason to touch on anything Goldberg says. To anyone with half a brain it's obvious how ridiculous Goldberg's ideas are. The guy's argument was pretty much - you should watch what you say and not curse. Somebody should show him the 1st amendmend. He blamed problems in america on profanities on TV and rappers.

Yeah, there are more than 300 pages in the book, because he just keeps repeating 'you shouldn't use bad words' and 'say please and thank you'.

Yes, I'm sure Dr Dre is the reason we're paying $3 for gas.

What does the price of gas have to do with sociocultural decline, which is the subject of his book?

I guess I'll have to amend what I stated earlier:

"Goldberg's book is primarily an exercise in social and cultural commentary, not government and public policy. Stewart [and his oompa-loompa brained defenders] is too much a mental midget to grasp the difference."

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Amused
He is merely exposing their agendas for those too myopic to see it.

Like he doesn't have an agenda of his own which many myopic individuals follow. It's like a Rat calling a Squirrel a rodent.

Everyone has an agenda. Goldberg doesn't try to hide his. That's the difference.

And what makes him different than the others? When they speak out on something political how are they "trying to hide" anything?

Many on the list wrap their agenda up in movies, music, TV shows or in Stewart's case, comedy. Look at the prevailing opinion in TV shows and movies. It's passed off in everyday scenarios through this media everyday.

You can have a totally non-political show like "Six Feet Under" where, in nearly every episode, an anti-corporate, anti-capitalist, anti Bush or anti-right wing comment is made in passing. Hell, in five episodes in a row last year, the main male character seen as the most positive, respectable person on the show made an anti-Bush comment.

And that's just a single example among countless ones.

six feet under? wtf are you talking about, its on the verge of being canceled, its last few seasons have by abysmal. thats power? wtf kind of crack are you smoking? hate spewing bigots like dr laura have far more power then six feet under

and none of the characters or the cast have any real power to make laws. nothing touches the power of government. and people who watch something like six feet under aren't being brainwashed by clever hbo executives, unless you believe in insane conspiracy theories. their current conspiracy is to subtly lose most of their audience season by season it seems. thats power. that is truely awesome power.

 

[JImmyK]

Hahah Goldberg got pwned.

 

[yllus]

I just thought I'd say that I find Stewart annoying as hell. Good to see that not everyone admires the guy for his fairly mediocre ability to add a tinge of sarcasm to every topic.

 

[whistleclient]

Originally posted by: Amused


Ludacris, Eminem, Anna Nicole Smith, Michael Jackson, Courtney Love, Rick and Kathy Hilton. Care to explain how do any of the above use their celebrity status to push their agendas. Seems to me like the book is just a stage for Goldberg to attack people he doesn't like. The correct title of the book should've been "100 people I don't like"

Do you support the banning of tobacco ads?

If tobacco ads can influence kids to behave badly, what kind of effect do you think Ludacris, Eminem, Anna Nicole Smith, Michael Jackson, Courtney Love, Rick and Kathy Hilton have on kids?

Not all use their celebrity for policial agendas. Some he accuses of influencing negative behavior. Anyone who supports the tobacco ad ban cannot logically support the rights of these people to influence kids as well.

(Again, I oppose ALL censorship... even the ban on tobacco ads)[/quote]


when Eminem influences kids badly, they get a crappy album. When Bush influences kids badly, they end up in a body bag in Iraq.