John Oliver on net neutrality2 call to arms

gorobei

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This Week Tonight covers the hypocrisy of fcc chair and plans on repealing net neutrality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92vuuZt7wak
whatever your leanings, everyone should comment on the FCC proceedings if you like your internet.

link to the This Week Tonight shortcut to the fcc page. click express
www.gofccyourself.com
and feel free to tell him how stupid the novelty mug is.
 

Crono

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How does/will the FCC know if a company if violating net neutrality?
 

Skel

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maybe it's the NoScript or one of hte blockers I use, but the www.gofccyourself.com link doesn't seem to bring up the direct link to the feedback like I would have expected. This just me?
 

Aikouka

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maybe it's the NoScript or one of hte blockers I use, but the www.gofccyourself.com link doesn't seem to bring up the direct link to the feedback like I would have expected. This just me?

You have to click on "+Express". Unfortunately, they couldn't link it straight to the form, because it uses a ui-sref in the anchor tag to provide the state:

Code:
<a ui-sref="ecfs.filings.express.new({docket: p.name})" href="/ecfs/filings/express">+ Express</a>

I don't do much web programming, but after a bit of searching, I can't seem to find a way to pass the state information through standard URL conventions (e.g. "ecfs/filings/express?docket=17-108"). So, they were most likely stuck forcing the user to click on the tag. You can also just click express and type in 17-108, but that'd probably be more awkward for people.
 

Pulsar

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Funny I was just coming here to post this. Beat me to it. I've sent in my comment - hope everyone else does the same. That said, I don't think it makes a difference. The (shill) head of the FCC is appointed, not elected, and has no imperative to follow what we want, even with the comment system overwhelmingly in favor of keeping the rules the same.
 

dainthomas

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I sure miss Wheeler. One of the few instances where the supposed lackey the industry thought they had turned around and did the right thing.
 
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Jimzz

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Yep made my comment today. Hope others will do so, even though it will not matter. Can't believe I am saying this but I hope the democrats do very well in the midterms'.
 

Dr. Zaus

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Did write good argument:

By changing the classification: risk perceived in new internet ventures increases, decreasing investment, and harming innovation - even if net neutrality remains.
 

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the site was super slow this morning but i was able to put in my comment.
cant believe the guy was a Verizon lawyer. curious how much they paid someone for him to be FCC head.
 

Pulsar

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Seriously people. Get off your ass. We have ONE chance to stop this, this is it.
 
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Seriously people. Get off your ass. We have ONE chance to stop this, this is it.

That's not true. There's definitely other avenues to stop this (and fix the fucking problem in the first place), but that will require more effort (still less effort than dealing with the fucking piece of shit communication companies oligarchs when you have pretty much any issue).

For the people that do put in the effort, be sure to send copies of it to your representatives so they too can know your opinions on this. I wonder if there's a public repository, as I have a hunch that most of the comments, especially ones that don't come written on $100 bills won't be viewed (and will thus won't be "counted").
 

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That's not true. There's definitely other avenues to stop this (and fix the fucking problem in the first place), but that will require more effort (still less effort than dealing with the fucking piece of shit communication companies oligarchs when you have pretty much any issue).

For the people that do put in the effort, be sure to send copies of it to your representatives so they too can know your opinions on this. I wonder if there's a public repository, as I have a hunch that most of the comments, especially ones that don't come written on $100 bills won't be viewed (and will thus won't be "counted").

This, and I'd like to know how it's enforced, as well. Anytime a group tries to rally the public around a just cause, there's usually some agenda or unintended consequences waiting in the wings.

I'm all for net neutrality in theory, it just doesn't seem to be as simple as evil ISPs (the lack of competition is the bigger problem, and real competition would likely spur privacy-focused ISPs to enter the market) extorting the little guys, it appears more like shifting costs that will ultimately likely end up being transferred to the consumer.

Verizon and Comcast wouldn't dare try throttling some random site's traffic or try passing the cost of network optimization onto us if there were real and multiple alternatives (including but not limited to municipal broadband, which they've done a good job of suppressing) that forced them to play nice for fear of losing customers.

Also, this is a P&N topic, even if it's seen a call to action or PSA.
 
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The real question is this - is internet a right or a privilege? How you answer that question (well..lawmakers) is going to determine how this goes down and I'm pretty sure we've already been told what they think. It's going to be monetized and datamined in a way that will make the early days look amazing in retrospect. But guess what. The majority don't care. They are the same people who buy the new iphone the day it comes out every year, and spend 50% of their time on FB and snapchat. The same ones who don't bargain shop and just go to Amazon because it's 'easy' and 'fast'. The same people who don't understand what privacy is, and that it is being threatened.The only people who truly care are us old fogies who don't take it for granted and know just how evil corporations really can be. The dollar above everything.
 
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The real question is this - is internet a right or a privilege? How you answer that question (well..lawmakers) is going to determine how this goes down and I'm pretty sure we've already been told what they think. It's going to be monetized and datamined in a way that will make the early days look amazing in retrospect. But guess what. The majority don't care. They are the same people who buy the new iphone the day it comes out every year, and spend 50% of their time on FB and snapchat. The same ones who don't bargain shop and just go to Amazon because it's 'easy' and 'fast'. The same people who don't understand what privacy is, and that it is being threatened.The only people who truly care are us old fogies who don't take it for granted and know just how evil corporations really can be. The dollar above everything.

Anything controllable is claimed to be a 'privilege' by those holding the keys. I guarantee you if there was a way to monitor, grant, restrict, or withhold oxygen, some piece of shit in a suit would be telling me breathing is a privilege, not a right.
 

Dr. Zaus

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Anything controllable is claimed to be a 'privilege' by those holding the keys. I guarantee you if there was a way to monitor, grant, restrict, or withhold oxygen, some piece of shit in a suit would be telling me breathing is a privilege, not a right.
Like water.

Or internet.

Or education at a level needed to contribute to society.

Or sex.