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John Kerry Tells Democrat Activists Party Should Moderate Abortion Image

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by Steven Ertelt
LifeNews.com Editor
December 14, 2004

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- Former presidential candidate John Kerry surprised key Democratic Party activists in a meeting shortly after Thanksgiving where he said the party needs to do more to moderate its image on abortion and reach out to pro-life voters.

That comment surprised and shocked many in the room, according to a new Newsweek report.

At the meeting, held at the headquarters of the AFL-CIO, Ellen Malcolm, president of Emily's List, a pro-abortion political action committee, asked Kerry about the direction of the party.

Kerry told those in attendance that the party needed to find new ways to reach out to voters who don't like abortion. He also said Democrats need to welcome more pro-life candidates into the party.

"There was a gasp in the room," new NARAL president Nancy Keenan told Newsweek.

The Democratic Party is at a crossroads on the issue of abortion.

Controlled by abortion advocacy groups like NARAL and Planned Parenthood, the party has put forward pro-abortion candidates for decades. Every election cycle the abortion issue breaks in favor of Republican presidential candidates because of their pro-life view.

In fact, the issue of abortion gave a boost to the president as a post-election poll of voters by Wirthlin Worldwide shows that a majority of Americans are pro-life and the abortion issue gave pro-life candidates such as President Bush a twelve percent advantage.

Some party leaders are beginning to sense that a change is necessary.

Senate Democrats have elected Harry Reid as their new leader. Though Reid is not pro-life, he does vote pro-life on abortion-related Congressional legislation about half the time and is considered by pro-life Democrats a step in the right direction.

He and pro-abortion House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi have endorsed pro-life former Indiana Congressman Tim Roemer to take the helm of the party.

Democrats for Life president Kristen Day says her party better wake up to the face that abortion is costing it votes before it's too late.

"[W]e really need to rethink our position," Day says. "I think the leadership knows that if we're going to be a majority party again, that we need to really respect the views of those in our party who don't necessarily agree with supporting abortion on demand."

However, leading abortion advocates are chagrined by these events and blame Kerry, who refused to support even a modest ban on partial-birth abortion or not using tax dollars to pay for them, for not doing enough to tout his pro-abortion views during the campaign.

Planned Parenthood president Gloria Feldt told Newsweek that Kerry "did not help the cause."

That comment echoes others made by leaders of pro-abortion groups shortly after the election.

Feminist Majority President Eleanor Smeal said Kerry did a poor job of emphasizing his position in favor of abortion. While Kerry spoke about the issue directly to abortion advocates, he did not clarify his abortion position among the general voting population and let Bush dominate the terms of the debate, she contended.

Some leading pro-abortion lawmakers like Louisiana Senator Mary Landrieu, Arkansas Senators Blanche Lincoln and Mark Pryor, and Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh are forming a centrist group to try to moderate the party's view on abortion and other issues.

But one abortion advocate says she wants nothing to do with that.

"If we try to be fake Republicans, that's not going to work," Colorado Rep. Diana DeGette, co-chair of the House pro-abortion caucus, told Newsweek. "It would be a cynical political move."

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Hey, there's always the Green Party for the radical abortionists.
 
"If we try to be fake Republicans, that's not going to work," Colorado Rep. Diana DeGette, co-chair of the House pro-abortion caucus, told Newsweek. "It would be a cynical political move."

Yup. But that doesn't usually stop the Dems.

It's interesting that the guy that voted against the ban on partial birth abortion is talking about moderation.
 
Originally posted by: tss4
Kerry's probably right about that.

True, the Xian base fo Sheeple is not going away any time soon.

I suspect they'll be a full ban on any kind of cell killing in the U.S., that clear cases would have to fly out of the Country to more progressive and Modern Countries. Not sure why they would want to come back to the Dark Age U.S. after the procedure <Shrugs>

 
Originally posted by: aidanjm
So I post one gay themed article in a week, and get accused of harping on gay issues too much. How much is too much? 1-2 abortion articles per day, every day of the frigging week?

There's no slowing down "Crusader's" of the Dark Ages, just look back at history.

 
Originally posted by: Riprorin
"If we try to be fake Republicans, that's not going to work," Colorado Rep. Diana DeGette, co-chair of the House pro-abortion caucus, told Newsweek. "It would be a cynical political move."

Yup. But that doesn't usually stop the Dems.

It's interesting that the guy that voted against the ban on partial birth abortion is talking about moderation.

You can't be serious. Who does partial birth abortions to abort unwanted children, rip? No they do it to abort children when the mother's life is in danger. A ban on partial birth abortions would have killed those women. Considering the life of the mother is a moderate view. If you can't see that, then you are clearly to far off in wacko land to even see the middle anymore. I have the up most respect for pro-life people but I have no respect for people that can't have intelligent discusions and can't fairly recognize the merits and disadvantages of both sides.
 
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
I'm pro-choice, but anti-irresponsibility.

How can teenagers be responsible when they don't even have the facts on contraception

I read the other day that kids who receive abstinence-based sex education are JUST AS LIKELY to have sex (before marriage) as kids who get fact-based education, but when the abstinence kids DO have sex, they are LESS LIKELY TO USE CONDOMS or contraception. Will look for link.



 
Originally posted by: tss4
Originally posted by: Riprorin
"If we try to be fake Republicans, that's not going to work," Colorado Rep. Diana DeGette, co-chair of the House pro-abortion caucus, told Newsweek. "It would be a cynical political move."

Yup. But that doesn't usually stop the Dems.

It's interesting that the guy that voted against the ban on partial birth abortion is talking about moderation.

You can't be serious. Who does partial birth abortions to abort unwanted children, rip? No they do it to abort children when the mother's life is in danger. A ban on partial birth abortions would have killed those women. Considering the life of the mother is a moderate view. If you can't see that, then you are clearly to far off in wacko land to even see the middle anymore. I have the up most respect for pro-life people but I have no respect for people that can't have intelligent discusions and can't fairly recognize the merits and disadvantages of both sides.

For your reading:

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Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
I'm pro-choice, but anti-irresponsibility.

How can teenagers be responsible when they don't even have the facts on contraception

I read the other day that kids who receive abstinence-based sex education are JUST AS LIKELY to have sex (before marriage) as kids who get fact-based education, but when the abstinence kids DO have sex, they are LESS LIKELY TO USE CONDOMS or contraception. Will look for link.

I'm ALL for sex education, don't get me wrong.

Abortion can/will only be eliminated through education, not legislation.
 
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: tss4
Originally posted by: Riprorin
"If we try to be fake Republicans, that's not going to work," Colorado Rep. Diana DeGette, co-chair of the House pro-abortion caucus, told Newsweek. "It would be a cynical political move."

Yup. But that doesn't usually stop the Dems.

It's interesting that the guy that voted against the ban on partial birth abortion is talking about moderation.

You can't be serious. Who does partial birth abortions to abort unwanted children, rip? No they do it to abort children when the mother's life is in danger. A ban on partial birth abortions would have killed those women. Considering the life of the mother is a moderate view. If you can't see that, then you are clearly to far off in wacko land to even see the middle anymore. I have the up most respect for pro-life people but I have no respect for people that can't have intelligent discusions and can't fairly recognize the merits and disadvantages of both sides.

For your reading:

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Is this suppose to be proof of your point? Really rip? Its a copy of the partial birth abortion act. How does this support your point other than to say "people that are in favor of the partial birth abortion do say because they think partial birth abortions are bad and they think they aren't necessary". Wow, that was a suprise.
 
Nice spin on the article, too...

Not "Pro-Choice" but rather "Pro-Abortion" and "Abortion Advocate"- bravo! superb framing! Diana DeGette is my Rep, and she's never advocated anybody having an abortion, but that doesn't stop anybody with a tar brush...

Wouldn't want to mention that all these folks would tell you they want government "out of their lives" too, well, except they want it more into others' lives... particularly women's lives...
 
Originally posted by: tss4
You can't be serious. Who does partial birth abortions to abort unwanted children, rip? No they do it to abort children when the mother's life is in danger. A ban on partial birth abortions would have killed those women. Considering the life of the mother is a moderate view. If you can't see that, then you are clearly to far off in wacko land to even see the middle anymore. I have the up most respect for pro-life people but I have no respect for people that can't have intelligent discusions and can't fairly recognize the merits and disadvantages of both sides.
How would delivering the fetus alive be any more dangerous than delivering it dead? The only difference is that in one, you suck the fetus' brain out before full delivery.
 
Considering Kerry (who is a moderate on abortion) just blew the election for the Dems, I'm not sure he's the one to be making any suggestions on how to run a campaign.
 
Originally posted by: Riprorin
"If we try to be fake Republicans, that's not going to work," Colorado Rep. Diana DeGette, co-chair of the House pro-abortion caucus, told Newsweek. "It would be a cynical political move."

Yup. But that doesn't usually stop the Dems.

It's interesting that the guy that voted against the ban on partial birth abortion is talking about moderation.

I also think you forget that the reason many people voted against that ban has to do with the fact that there was no clause included to allow that procedure to save the mother's life.

How is that not moderation?

Plus, if you don't want as many abortions, you should start by creating mandatory programs that teach both abstinence AND safe sex without the misconceptions taught now.

One of the funniest things I have ever seen on the Daily Show occurred when they were talking about the false "facts" they teach at these pro-abstinence classes including: mutual masturbation can cause pregnancy, HIV can be spread through tears and kissing, etc.

Then they had a clip of the Senate Majority leader, a doctor, (Bill Frist i think) on the George Step. (can't spell his name) show. He was telling Frist how insane some of those "facts" are and Frist said something to the extent of, "you'd need a lot of tears and sweat to get HIV."

Jon Stewart: Yea, if the tears were coming out of your c*ck!

Eliminate stupid crap like that and you'll see abortion rates drop like they did under clinton.
 
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: tss4
You can't be serious. Who does partial birth abortions to abort unwanted children, rip? No they do it to abort children when the mother's life is in danger. A ban on partial birth abortions would have killed those women. Considering the life of the mother is a moderate view. If you can't see that, then you are clearly to far off in wacko land to even see the middle anymore. I have the up most respect for pro-life people but I have no respect for people that can't have intelligent discusions and can't fairly recognize the merits and disadvantages of both sides.
How would delivering the fetus alive be any more dangerous than delivering it dead? The only difference is that in one, you suck the fetus' brain out before full delivery.

They are able to terminate a delivery that is becoming a risk to the mother. As medicine progresses, I'm sure they will become unneccasry to save the mother's life. then you can outlaw it all you want. But if my wife were to die during labor because she didn't have access to this, then God help anyway that said this crap to my face. No one denies that using partial birth abortions to abort unwanted children is barbaric at best, but there are times when a choice has to be made that could save a life and end another, and that choice for me and my wife should not be made by you.
 
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