John Kerry promises to break his promises

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conjur

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I applaud his sensibilities. Kerry realizes the budget deficits are HUGE and it's time to reign them in. Bush doesn't give a damn.
 

maddogchen

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Wow he came out and said he would break his own promises, must be the first politician that admitted thats what they mostly do when they get in office. Makes me like the guy more, not sure if I would vote for him though.
 

PingSpike

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Sounds good to me. Education and security are pretty much the only things that need serious work. We gotta start cutting something otherwise the nations youth are going to be totally screwed down the line.
 
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Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
thread kinda backfired on you didn't it pelinor?

Na, but it does make you wonder how much longer till he promises to break this promise. Was he not thinking about this huge issue of fiscal responsibility when he made his other promises or did he JUST realize what a big deal fiscal responsibility is. Anybody else getting dizzy?
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
thread kinda backfired on you didn't it pelinor?

That's because HOP doesn't think logically, he only parrots the GOP talking points.
 

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I don't care for Bush or Kerry. Since Bush got us into a war, and Kerry didn't, I will be putting in my vote for Kerry. If he screws up, then I'll rant on him. Putting Bush back in without the spectre of re-election to worry about? Nope, I'll pass on that possibility.
 

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So he's saying that if his proposals become too cumbersome he will make cuts. La dee fvcking da.
 

PingSpike

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
thread kinda backfired on you didn't it pelinor?

Na, but it does make you wonder how much longer till he promises to break this promise. Was he not thinking about this huge issue of fiscal responsibility when he made his other promises or did he JUST realize what a big deal fiscal responsibility is. Anybody else getting dizzy?

I think I'll take the possibility of fiscal responsibility over the alternative that the Bush administration offers; An ever growing deficit with no plan whatsoever to curb it.
 

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
thread kinda backfired on you didn't it pelinor?

Na, but it does make you wonder how much longer till he promises to break this promise. Was he not thinking about this huge issue of fiscal responsibility when he made his other promises or did he JUST realize what a big deal fiscal responsibility is. Anybody else getting dizzy?

Better late than, in Dubya's case, never.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
I don't care for Bush or Kerry. Since Bush got us into a war, and Kerry didn't, I will be putting in my vote for Kerry. If he screws up, then I'll rant on him. Putting Bush back in without the spectre of re-election to worry about? Nope, I'll pass on that possibility.

Hmmm...never considered that point.

Definitely not voting for him....nope....not gonna do it.
 

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I dont believe it John "im for universal health care" kerry. He talks the talk but the fact is NO ONE is going to be able to get rid of our deficit with any governement social programs in place. He wont cut his social programs, all he is doing is lying. But he WILL raise taxes. Alan greenspan already said to cut social security , but i doubt any politican will. We need a president (republican or democrat) that isnt full of political BS. But none will run, its sad
 

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
I don't care for Bush or Kerry. Since Bush got us into a war, and Kerry didn't, I will be putting in my vote for Kerry. If he screws up, then I'll rant on him. Putting Bush back in without the spectre of re-election to worry about? Nope, I'll pass on that possibility.

Hmmm...never considered that point.

Definitely not voting for him....nope....not gonna do it.

Seriously. Bush's administration seriously scares me. When I originally voted for him in 2000 I thought "What harm could this baffoon do?" I guess I found out. I smell a possible impending draft, the June iraq deadline being thrown out indefinately, an ever overstretched military, rolling back of personal freedoms by John Asscrotch, national debt spiraling out of control, and possibly another poorly conceived war along the lines of Iran or some other middle eastern country that further damages our world standing and threatens to turn our allies into enemies. Those things seem outlandish even to me, but so did a lot of stuff that has ACTUALLY happened already.

It really does scare me. His administration is everything thats wrong with the republican party IMO. And I'm probably more republican than democrat!
 

PingSpike

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Originally posted by: AEB
I dont believe it John "im for universal health care" kerry. He talks the talk but the fact is NO ONE is going to be able to get rid of our deficit with any governement social programs in place. He wont cut his social programs, all he is doing is lying. But he WILL raise taxes. Alan greenspan already said to cut social security , but i doubt any politican will. We need a president (republican or democrat) that isnt full of political BS. But none will run, its sad

Its not that none will run, its just that none who have principals can make it to the top. Mud is usually slung onto any candidate who's true before he can even get a start in the primaries. All that is left is the underhanded ones, and the public gets to choose between two greaseballs. They vote against whichever one they hate most. Its sad.
 

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Looks as if flip-flopping during Kerry speeches has taken on an entirely new meaning:

Young Republicans wearing cheap sandals got in the front row and started clapping them together almost as soon as the Democratic presidential candidate took the stage at Sawyer Point on Tuesday.
 

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Originally posted by: burnedout
Looks as if flip-flopping during Kerry speeches has taken on an entirely new meaning:

Young Republicans wearing cheap sandals got in the front row and started clapping them together almost as soon as the Democratic presidential candidate took the stage at Sawyer Point on Tuesday.

"You sit down. You've had your say, and now I'm going to have my say.";)

Oh wait -that was a different campaign stop.:eek:

CkG
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: PingSpike
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
I don't care for Bush or Kerry. Since Bush got us into a war, and Kerry didn't, I will be putting in my vote for Kerry. If he screws up, then I'll rant on him. Putting Bush back in without the spectre of re-election to worry about? Nope, I'll pass on that possibility.

Hmmm...never considered that point.

Definitely not voting for him....nope....not gonna do it.

Seriously. Bush's administration seriously scares me. When I originally voted for him in 2000 I thought "What harm could this baffoon do?" I guess I found out. I smell a possible impending draft, the June iraq deadline being thrown out indefinately, an ever overstretched military, rolling back of personal freedoms by John Asscrotch, national debt spiraling out of control, and possibly another poorly conceived war along the lines of Iran or some other middle eastern country that further damages our world standing and threatens to turn our allies into enemies. Those things seem outlandish even to me, but so did a lot of stuff that has ACTUALLY happened already.

It really does scare me. His administration is everything thats wrong with the republican party IMO. And I'm probably more republican than democrat!


oh he scares republicans alright. theres richard clarke our former national security head, and john dean with his upcoming book "Worse Than Watergate: The Secret Presidency of George W. Bush"http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/03/31/dean/index_np.html
 
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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: PingSpike
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
I don't care for Bush or Kerry. Since Bush got us into a war, and Kerry didn't, I will be putting in my vote for Kerry. If he screws up, then I'll rant on him. Putting Bush back in without the spectre of re-election to worry about? Nope, I'll pass on that possibility.

Hmmm...never considered that point.

Definitely not voting for him....nope....not gonna do it.

Seriously. Bush's administration seriously scares me. When I originally voted for him in 2000 I thought "What harm could this baffoon do?" I guess I found out. I smell a possible impending draft, the June iraq deadline being thrown out indefinately, an ever overstretched military, rolling back of personal freedoms by John Asscrotch, national debt spiraling out of control, and possibly another poorly conceived war along the lines of Iran or some other middle eastern country that further damages our world standing and threatens to turn our allies into enemies. Those things seem outlandish even to me, but so did a lot of stuff that has ACTUALLY happened already.

It really does scare me. His administration is everything thats wrong with the republican party IMO. And I'm probably more republican than democrat!


oh he scares republicans alright. theres richard clarke our former national security head, and john dean with his upcoming book "Worse Than Watergate: The Secret Presidency of George W. Bush"http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/03/31/dean/index_np.html

Just wait for my upcoming book about the AL Championship titled "They should have pulled Pedro."
 

Mursilis

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Originally posted by: conjur
I applaud his sensibilities. Kerry realizes the budget deficits are HUGE and it's time to reign them in.

And he's just realizing this NOW?!?! He spent the entire primary season promising $1 trillion in new spending, and suddenly realizes the money doesn't exist?!?! He's only been in freakin' Congress for the last 10+ years!! When he was running around over the winter promising more gov't handouts to everyone (which he now realizes he can't deliver), he was either woefully naive and uninformed, or just flat-out lying. But I don't expect you apologists to discuss that.
 

PingSpike

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Originally posted by: Mursilis
Originally posted by: conjur
I applaud his sensibilities. Kerry realizes the budget deficits are HUGE and it's time to reign them in.

And he's just realizing this NOW?!?! He spent the entire primary season promising $1 trillion in new spending, and suddenly realizes the money doesn't exist?!?! He's only been in freakin' Congress for the last 10+ years!! When he was running around over the winter promising more gov't handouts to everyone (which he now realizes he can't deliver), he was either woefully naive and uninformed, or just flat-out lying. But I don't expect you apologists to discuss that.

Maybe he'll let Bush in on that little secret as well. Who knows what might happen.
 

nutxo

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: PingSpike
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
I don't care for Bush or Kerry. Since Bush got us into a war, and Kerry didn't, I will be putting in my vote for Kerry. If he screws up, then I'll rant on him. Putting Bush back in without the spectre of re-election to worry about? Nope, I'll pass on that possibility.

Hmmm...never considered that point.

Definitely not voting for him....nope....not gonna do it.

Seriously. Bush's administration seriously scares me. When I originally voted for him in 2000 I thought "What harm could this baffoon do?" I guess I found out. I smell a possible impending draft, the June iraq deadline being thrown out indefinately, an ever overstretched military, rolling back of personal freedoms by John Asscrotch, national debt spiraling out of control, and possibly another poorly conceived war along the lines of Iran or some other middle eastern country that further damages our world standing and threatens to turn our allies into enemies. Those things seem outlandish even to me, but so did a lot of stuff that has ACTUALLY happened already.

It really does scare me. His administration is everything thats wrong with the republican party IMO. And I'm probably more republican than democrat!


oh he scares republicans alright. theres richard clarke our former national security head, and john dean with his upcoming book "Worse Than Watergate: The Secret Presidency of George W. Bush"http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/03/31/dean/index_np.html

wow. That salon place is whacked. I always figured it was where the breck girl got his hair done :).


Since we link to salon does that mean that free republic is also now credible? They seem awfully similar.