John Kerry A Flip Flopper? Not really when compared to President Bush
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That article doesnt prove anything. Bush fights for what he belives in but wont oppose progress. Not only that but being a govenor is a little different than being a president. Just because he opposed a bill doesnt mean he will veto it when it passes, why? because if it passes then theoretically thats what the people want. If we had an official who put HIS agenda first nothing would get done, all the article proves is that bush is a good leader. And is still doesnt prove kerry isn't a flip-flopper
sMiLeYz
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Indeed, on the general subject of opportunism, Kerry's record compares quite favorably to the incumbent's. As governor of Texas, Bush opposed a strong patients' bill of rights that nevertheless passed over his veto. On the 2000 campaign trail, he tried to take credit for the law and implied he would support comparable legislation on the national level. Once in office, he sought (successfully) to block the bill's passage in the House, all the while indicating that if it did pass he would sign it rather than pay the political price for vetoing a popular bill. Similarly, Bush opposed the McCain-Feingold bill in the 2000 GOP primary, tried to kill it in Congress, and then signed it when it passed.
He has twice proposed immigration reform measures aimed at bolstering his support among Latino voters and twice backed away from them when they proved unpopular. He campaigned as a supporter of partial privatization of social security and then denied he'd ever supported any such thing when that proved to be unpopular. He proposed a temporary tax cut conditioned on the idea that the government could afford it without spending the Social Security surplus; then, when the surplus vanished, he supported a further tax cut. Now he wants his first cut made permanent. There's a consistency of a sort here, but it's not a very admirable one.
sure sounds like flip flopping to me. i like your line, "but wont oppose progress". ask any stem cell researcher out there about the progress we're making.
He has twice proposed immigration reform measures aimed at bolstering his support among Latino voters and twice backed away from them when they proved unpopular. He campaigned as a supporter of partial privatization of social security and then denied he'd ever supported any such thing when that proved to be unpopular. He proposed a temporary tax cut conditioned on the idea that the government could afford it without spending the Social Security surplus; then, when the surplus vanished, he supported a further tax cut. Now he wants his first cut made permanent. There's a consistency of a sort here, but it's not a very admirable one.
sure sounds like flip flopping to me. i like your line, "but wont oppose progress". ask any stem cell researcher out there about the progress we're making.
Reporter: So MR Kerry what did you have for Breakfast today?
Kerry: Pancakes
Reporter: were they good pancakes?
Kerry: I had eggs why do you think I had pancakes?
Reporter: because you just said it in front of the camera.
Kerry: No i did not sir.
Reporter: yes you did, I have it on tape, hey Bob play the tape
Reporter: So MR Kerry what did you have for Breakfast today?
Kerry: Pancakes
Reporter: See you just said Pancakes?
Kerry: That was not me where did you get that tape?
Kerry: Pancakes
Reporter: were they good pancakes?
Kerry: I had eggs why do you think I had pancakes?
Reporter: because you just said it in front of the camera.
Kerry: No i did not sir.
Reporter: yes you did, I have it on tape, hey Bob play the tape
Reporter: So MR Kerry what did you have for Breakfast today?
Kerry: Pancakes
Reporter: See you just said Pancakes?
Kerry: That was not me where did you get that tape?
Bowfinger
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Oh, I get it. Kind of like Bush's 16 words where he didn't say Iraq tried to buy uranium in Africa, or the Iraq is a "uniquely urgent threat" claim he didn't make, or his complaint he couldn't understand why people would infer a link between Iraq and al Qaida after Bush and his minions spent months suggesting that connection.
Like that?
interesting comparison, Kerry can't decide what he had for breakfast, bush can't decide on internation affairs issues.
hmmm, which holds more weight with the average voter.
0roo0roo
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don't forget bush on states rights flip floppin.
gay marraige? during his campaign it was a states rights thing. now? amending the constitution..
medical marajana? during his campaign it also was a states rights thing. now? prosectuions via ashcroft galore.
gay marraige? during his campaign it was a states rights thing. now? amending the constitution..
medical marajana? during his campaign it also was a states rights thing. now? prosectuions via ashcroft galore.
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