BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!
That's so far from being a logical comparison it's not even in apples to oranges territory. More like apples to camel dung.
Speaking at a conference sponsored by conservative oragnizations no more makes Bertoud a conservative than does Edwards' hosting of a campaign event at a slaveholders home make him a racist.
What's hard to understand?
It's indeed interesting to note what this same group (the CAGW) has to say about the current Republican-led Congress and the "never seen a spending bill I won't veto" President:
Wow, quite a bit of Republican pork there Rip! Put that in your crack pipe and smoke it!
Wow, quite a bit of Republican pork there Rip! Put that in your crack pipe and smoke it!
If the republican score so much better in your BS numbers why is it they are spending like a pack of drunken sailors?
Oh and who really cares what the VP voted for in the senate the VP doesn't do anything unless the president is poppet like Bush.
Let me see if I have this straight. Republicans gain control of the Legislative and the Executive branches of govt, initiate some of the largest spending and debt increases in history. But somehow, the organizations Riprorin quotes seem to be able to pin this phenomenon on the Dems, particularly on a no-influence junior Senator... Dems who've basically been locked out of the budget formulation process by the Republican majority's steamroller tactics, particularly in the House...
And they perpetuate the lie that somehow taxcuts for wealthy americans benefit the majority, and that there is, in fact, a free lunch- that cuts in revenue and increases in spending have no negative effects, particularly when done in tandem...
Letting the current Republican leadership manage the Nation's finances will effectively destroy the fiscal integrity of the Govt., enslave future taxpayers to obscene interest payments on wealth transfers made to the financial elite via federal debt. We've allowed people who hate govt., who seek to destroy its effectiveness, actually run it, and that's a very bad mistake...
And they perpetuate the lie that somehow taxcuts for wealthy americans benefit the majority, and that there is, in fact, a free lunch- that cuts in revenue and increases in spending have no negative effects, particularly when done in tandem...
Letting the current Republican leadership manage the Nation's finances will effectively destroy the fiscal integrity of the Govt., enslave future taxpayers to obscene interest payments on wealth transfers made to the financial elite via federal debt. We've allowed people who hate govt., who seek to destroy its effectiveness, actually run it, and that's a very bad mistake...
Surprise, surprise, Edwards voted against Bush's 2001 and 2003 tax cuts.
Again, Edwards is no friend of the taxpayer!
Again, Edwards is no friend of the taxpayer!
As should have EVERY Senator.
Stalwart Republicans Alan Greenspan and Paul O'Neill were against the tax cuts and were in favor of funding Social Security to make it permantly solvent and to allow people age 38 and under to opt-out and instead invest in privatized retirement.
Those tax cuts led to the deficit spiraling upwards with NO trigger based on fiscal soundness (cuts would not have been rescinded should a fiscal deficit result.)
Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech
That quote kills me. Pot calling the kettle black.
I don't understand why. Oh, if you mean because I'm a conservative Republican that is now criticizing the current administration?
I don't see how that's the pot calling the kettle black.'
I am FAR from being a neoconservative!
Edwards Denounces Accounting Tricks, But Used Them In 1990s
?Hard Work And Responsibility, Not Accounting Tricks And Corporate Greed.? ?I believe we can build a better life for our families, families like the family I grew up with, and communities like Seneca and Robbins, North Carolina. But it has to be based on the values of hard work and responsibility, not accounting tricks and corporate greed.? (Sen. John Edwards, Remarks At Democrat Presidential Candidates Debate, Columbia, SC, 5/3/03)
Edwards Sets Up Professional Corporation Where He Was Only Employee ? Avoids Medicare Taxes On $5 Million. ?Edwards, a trial lawyer, set up a professional corporation in 1995, in which he was the sole employee and shareholder. Edwards then paid himself a salary of $ 600,000 and $ 540,000 in 1996 and 1997, according to a personal disclosure statement he was required to file with the secretary of the Senate. At the same time he collected $5 million each year in dividends from his corporation. Edwards was required to pay Medicare taxes on his salary, but under this arrangement he was not required to pay Medicare taxes on his corporate dividends.? (Rob Christensen, ?Faircloth Claims Edwards Avoided Payroll Taxes,? The [Raleigh] News & Observer, 10/14/98)
?He?s Beating The System.? [E]xperts disagree on whether Edwards is courting an IRS audit. ?There is nothing that says you can?t do it,? says Andrew Blackman, a CPA and personal financial specialist with the New York City firm of Shapiro & Lobel. ?I think that it?s the type of situation, if light is focused on it, the IRS will see as abusive.? ?He?s beating the system by doing what he is doing,? said Blackman, who is chairman of the personal financial specialist subcommittee of the American Institute of Certified Public Accountants. ?Its not an uncommon thing to do. I?ve done it, but not in that sort of ratio (of salary to dividends).?? (Rob Christensen, ?Faircloth Claims Edwards Avoided Payroll Taxes,? The [Raleigh] News And Observer, 10/14/98)
?Hard Work And Responsibility, Not Accounting Tricks And Corporate Greed.? ?I believe we can build a better life for our families, families like the family I grew up with, and communities like Seneca and Robbins, North Carolina. But it has to be based on the values of hard work and responsibility, not accounting tricks and corporate greed.? (Sen. John Edwards, Remarks At Democrat Presidential Candidates Debate, Columbia, SC, 5/3/03)
Edwards Sets Up Professional Corporation Where He Was Only Employee ? Avoids Medicare Taxes On $5 Million. ?Edwards, a trial lawyer, set up a professional corporation in 1995, in which he was the sole employee and shareholder. Edwards then paid himself a salary of $ 600,000 and $ 540,000 in 1996 and 1997, according to a personal disclosure statement he was required to file with the secretary of the Senate. At the same time he collected $5 million each year in dividends from his corporation. Edwards was required to pay Medicare taxes on his salary, but under this arrangement he was not required to pay Medicare taxes on his corporate dividends.? (Rob Christensen, ?Faircloth Claims Edwards Avoided Payroll Taxes,? The [Raleigh] News & Observer, 10/14/98)
?He?s Beating The System.? [E]xperts disagree on whether Edwards is courting an IRS audit. ?There is nothing that says you can?t do it,? says Andrew Blackman, a CPA and personal financial specialist with the New York City firm of Shapiro & Lobel. ?I think that it?s the type of situation, if light is focused on it, the IRS will see as abusive.? ?He?s beating the system by doing what he is doing,? said Blackman, who is chairman of the personal financial specialist subcommittee of the American Institute of Certified Public Accountants. ?Its not an uncommon thing to do. I?ve done it, but not in that sort of ratio (of salary to dividends).?? (Rob Christensen, ?Faircloth Claims Edwards Avoided Payroll Taxes,? The [Raleigh] News And Observer, 10/14/98)
and its nice to know edwards is self-made not bitch-made, i dont support his politics but its nice to know someone running didnt have daddy/family give em the largest head start possible, he successfully ran a law firm to the top, thats a real accomplishment.
i hate all government spending, but hell if it only saves 2-6billion out of ~50.... i rather have all the people suing for malpractice not have to work ever again, especially if they were terminally damaged
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