Joel Siegel walks out of Clerks 2 screening

[Injury]

Originally posted by: anxi80

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
quite frankly, movies of the lowest common denominator DO deserve to be walked out.

i agree, but smith's big gripe is that siegel made a huge production of it. he made himself out to be an attention whore and made a scene when he walked out instead of quietly exiting the theatre. thats what grinded kevin's gears. granted if im in the theatre watching baby geniuses 3 and some guy startes yelling 'im out of here, this movie blows goats' and saying a bunch of other crap to interrupt other peoples viewing experience then id be pissed too. just because it isnt your cup of tea, doesnt mean you have the right to f*ck it up for everyone else. so yea, i agree with walking out if the movies does blow (hell, get a refund if you can!), but try and do it by without drawing too much attention to yourself.

edit: and that wasnt directed towards you, but just making a general statement. but nothing bothers me more than obnoxious people who disrupt other people who paid to see a movie.

My thoughts exactly.

The icing on the cake is that Joel Siegel is pretty much a "Professional Movie-Goer". You'd think that in the name of professionalism, he could exit quietly at the least, but moreso sit through it and just give it a bad review, as he's going to do anyway. Even having a crying baby in the theatre with him would be a more professional move.

It just seems to me that some people don't grasp what he did as the ultimate insult not just to Kevin Smith, but to everyone else watching, his employers, and everyone who listens to his reviews.

Imagine any of you coporate guys sitting in on a meeting with customers and in the middle just standing up and walking out yelling "This the most boring piece of crap I've heard in 20 years!" ... think you'd have a job after that one?

 

[marvdmartian]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: anxi80
yeah, heard about this earlier. kevin wrote about the situation in his myspace and its a pretty funny read. link

This is a guy who seemingly prides himself on being "punny" - that is, he likes to add his own nyuk-nyuk wordplay into the reviews he writes/gives.

[snip]

If you want to share your displeasure with everyone, that's fine, dude; just do it AFTER the movie, not during. Some folks were enjoying themselves. I don't come down to your job and slap the taste out of your mouth for coming up with a line like "'Shark Tale' Is a Halibut Good Time"; so don't f*ck with my stuff WHILE IT'S STILL SCREENING.

quite frankly, movies of the lowest common denominator DO deserve to be walked out.

i have not seen clerks 1/2, so i'm not going to say that they are good/bad movies. but if something really disgusts you, you have every reason to walk out. hell, i wanted to walk out of "Kingdom of Heaven" cause i thought it was so bad (long like watching all 3 LOTRs in a row, but none of the quality ). i was with someone, so i didn't though

I'm pretty sure that everyone's figured out that Kevin Smith's not upset from Siegel's walking out, it's the WAY he walked out of the flick, ya know?
I saw "Saving Private Ryan" in the theater, and was pretty amazed when about a dozen people walked out during the first 20 minutes, when they were doing the Normandy beach invasion scenes. WTF? Did these people think that a war flick was going to be like Saturday morning GI Joe cartoons, where they shoot off a gazillion bullets and no one dies??? :roll:

HOWEVER, those people that walked out at least had the common courtesy to realize that while they did not enjoy the movie's beginning, that they did NOT have the right to ruin it for everyone else in the theater. If you ask me, Siegel got off pretty lightly just taking some verbal bashing over this. A good kick in the ass is more likely the medicine he should've gotten for it!

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: Eeezee
This is why rottentomatos.com is so damn unreliable. Movie critics rarely have a clue.

Hell, the Blaire Witch Project had great reviews. In fact, it has a ruge rating on that site! Critics loved it, but the movie SUCKED. Just one of many examples of critics making the weirdest decisions

What!? Blair Witch was one cinematogrophies all time greats of the last several decades! It sure better than this crap ball movie.

BTW, I plan to actually watch Blair Witch someday.

Dont or you'll get sea sick.

 

[DaShen]

Good response by Kevin Smith!!!! :laugh:

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: anxi80
yeah, heard about this earlier. kevin wrote about the situation in his myspace and its a pretty funny read. link

This is a guy who seemingly prides himself on being "punny" - that is, he likes to add his own nyuk-nyuk wordplay into the reviews he writes/gives.

[snip]

If you want to share your displeasure with everyone, that's fine, dude; just do it AFTER the movie, not during. Some folks were enjoying themselves. I don't come down to your job and slap the taste out of your mouth for coming up with a line like "'Shark Tale' Is a Halibut Good Time"; so don't f*ck with my stuff WHILE IT'S STILL SCREENING.

quite frankly, movies of the lowest common denominator DO deserve to be walked out.

i have not seen clerks 1/2, so i'm not going to say that they are good/bad movies. but if something really disgusts you, you have every reason to walk out. hell, i wanted to walk out of "Kingdom of Heaven" cause i thought it was so bad (long like watching all 3 LOTRs in a row, but none of the quality ). i was with someone, so i didn't though

Quite true, but you don't have to spoil the movie for people who are enjoying it. I would have just walked out without causing a scene.

 

[nakedfrog]

Me and a friend went as Jay and Silent Bob for Halloween a couple years ago, and we've gone as Bluntman and Chronic a couple times too. We're thinking of showing up for the movie early, with a boombox, and loitering outside the theater for a while

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: Eeezee
This is why rottentomatos.com is so damn unreliable. Movie critics rarely have a clue.

Hell, the Blaire Witch Project had great reviews. In fact, it has a ruge rating on that site! Critics loved it, but the movie SUCKED. Just one of many examples of critics making the weirdest decisions

What!? Blair Witch was one cinematogrophies all time greats of the last several decades! It sure better than this crap ball movie.

BTW, I plan to actually watch Blair Witch someday.

Sarcasm? If not, how could you call it one of the best of the past decades without actually having seen it?

 

[40Hands]

Want to see a donkey show?

 

[BrokenVisage]

Clerks is stupid so this news brings a smile to my face. Oh, and PSA: Jay and Silent Bob ARN'T FUNNY!

 

[DefDC]

for Kevin Smith!

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: Queasy
Link

July 19, 2006 -- DON'T joke about women, donkeys and bestiality if you expect Joel Siegel to watch your movie. That's what director Kevin Smith found out when the pun-loving "Good Morning America" film critic stormed out of a press screening of Smith's "Clerks II," which opens Friday - an act that's sparked a vicious war of words between the two.
"Time to go!" roared Siegel to his fellow critics. "First movie I've walked out of in 30 [bleeping] years!" His tirade came 40 minutes into the long-awaited Weinstein Company sequel to Smith's 1994 cult classic about two foul-mouthed Long Island convenience store clerks who razz customers and goof off.

In the scene that sent Siegel to the exit, the characters graphically discuss hiring a woman to perform sexual favors on a donkey. Siegel told Page Six: "It was so foul and mean and repulsive. I finally realized I could not say anything positive . . . I wasn't ready for this kind of smut . . . I hope he doesn't make any more movies."

An apoplectic Smith fired back on his MySpace blog: "Getting a bad review from Siegel is like a badge of honor. This is the guy who stole his mustachioed-critic shtick from Gene Shalit years ago, and still refuses to give it back. This is a guy who seemingly prides himself on his own nyuk-nyuk wordplay. For 'Pirates 2,' he made us all titter with 'Yo, Ho, Ho and a Bottle of Fun' . . . He made us squeal with delight when he wrote, 'Wheelie Good Time for "Cars." ' I mean, Fozzy [bleeping] Bear laughs at this guy."

And there's more: "I don't need Joel Siegel to [bleep] my [bleep] the way he apparently [bleeps] M. Night Shyamalan's, gushing over his flick ['The Lady in the Water'] before he's even seen it, but [bleep] man, man - how about a little common [bleeping] courtesy? You never, never disrupt a movie, simply because you don't like it. Cardinal rule of moviegoing: Shut your [bleeping] mouth while the movie's playing.

"I don't come down to your job and slap the taste out of your mouth for coming up with a line like, ' "Shark Tale" Is a Halibut Good Time' - so don't [bleep] with my stuff while it's still screening . . . What are you, a 12-year-old boy cutting loose with your pals at a Friday night screening of 'Scary Movie' 4' while your parents are in a theater down the hall watching 'The Devil Wears Prada'? Leave the diva-like behavior and drama-queen antics to the movie stars, not the movie reviewer, ya' rude-ass [bleep]."

My question is...has Siegel not seen Clerks or any of the other Smith movies? This is pretty par for the course.

ahhahahahahahahahahahahaahhahahaha.. Cant breathe...
"I don't need Joel Siegel to Kiss my ass the way he apparently licks M. Night Shyamalan's, gushing over his flick ['The Lady in the Water'] before he's even seen it

Shymalan hasnt had a good movie since freaking 6th sence...
so if he likes this drivel then I'm totally seeing Clerks 2 tomorrow

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: mchammer
American culture is such garbage now though. Imagine living in the times of the great classical music composers and shakespeare etc.

guess im rude crude and socially unacceptable then.. casues shakesspear NEVER once appealed to me even in HS and College.. it was a chore and not enjoyable..

as for classical... no thanks... give me something really freaking heavy and I'm in heaven...
(Old Metallica and Megadeath and Slayer) still my faves.

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: CVSiN

Originally posted by: mchammer
American culture is such garbage now though. Imagine living in the times of the great classical music composers and shakespeare etc.

guess im rude crude and socially unacceptable then.. casues shakesspear NEVER once appealed to me even in HS and College.. it was a chore and not enjoyable..

as for classical... no thanks... give me something really freaking heavy and I'm in heaven...
(Old Metallica and Megadeath and Slayer) still my faves.

Although I do appreciate Shakespeare and Classical music, I would not want to live in that time era.

 

[RadiclDreamer]

Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Clerks is stupid so this news brings a smile to my face. Oh, and PSA: Jay and Silent Bob ARN'T FUNNY!

Then you have less of a sense of humor than a wet cardboard box

 

[RadiclDreamer]

I'm going to see it tonight @ midnight, wife won tickets and i am super pumped. Check out the .mp3 file on news askew where kevin actually talks to siegal about the incident and siegal gets pwnt hard

 

[creedog]

Honesty, Kevin Smith is a one trick pony. Clerks had its place, unfortunatly that place was 12+ years ago in a universe that had re-introduced mainstream society to independent filmmakers. The fact that Smith is going back to Clerks proves that he only has one trick up his sleeve, and one good idea in his head.

Mallrats was ok for its time, and Dogma was not the wost thing that I ever saw. Chasing Amy.... yuck.. and Jersey Girl..total crap.

So what happens when you cannot grow as a director/writer... You make Jay and Silent Bob srike back.... Wow, how new and original. Like those are new and exciting characters. Clerks 2 just proves my point...

 

[creedog]

Oh, Blair Witch was a great original idea. I saw that film at an early screening, before I had heard one word about it. The hype was the best thing to ever happen to this file, but it was also the worst, as it runined the experience of walking in not knowing what you are about to see.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: Quasmo
Kevin smith is crop. I cant stand his crappy poop joke movies any more I used to enjoy them but now I see them for what they truly are.

I like croppy poop jokes.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Me and a friend went as Jay and Silent Bob for Halloween a couple years ago, and we've gone as Bluntman and Chronic a couple times too. We're thinking of showing up for the movie early, with a boombox, and loitering outside the theater for a while

Ha. Do you guys looks somewhat like the characters?

 

[ballmode]

clerks 2 was the bomb!

 

[daveymark]

Originally posted by: ballmode
clerks 2 was the bomb!

bingo.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Me and a friend went as Jay and Silent Bob for Halloween a couple years ago, and we've gone as Bluntman and Chronic a couple times too. We're thinking of showing up for the movie early, with a boombox, and loitering outside the theater for a while

:thumbsup: Draggind the wife to see it tonight at the Studio Movie Grill, under guise as a "date."

 

[Reckoner]

Audio


Link of Kevin Smith vs. Joe Siegel arguing on the air. Joe Siegel didn't even know he was talking to Kevin Smith until 10 or so minutes into the conversation!

 

[sandorski]

I still haven't seen Clerks.

The best religious movie ever(yes, even bigger than all those Moses/Jesus flicks) is Dogma.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

I just got back from watching Clerks II. I laughed my ASS off! Funniest movie of the year. The scene where Elias is trying to explain why he can't have sex with his girlfriend was priceless...