Joe officially announces he's running again

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Paratus

Lifer
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If he ran on the platform that he would let Texas and the south secede from the Union, would you support him then? I think that's a great idea
Texas can’t secede. Do you understand what would happen if it did? It’s got oil, deserts, and a lot of non-white people. The US would invade before Texas was gone 6 months.

Although maybe we’d be brought back as a territory and Ted Cruz would be out of a job.
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pcgeek11

Lifer
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Just a quick question or two…first, you realize this uproar is about loan origination fees and the like, not the mortgage loan interest, right?

Second…did you read this part, right? (In last paragraph in linked article.).



So don’t worry, they’re still allowed to screw the really bad credit holders.


Yes. I didn't at first due to the large amount of misinformation about it. Even in repoman0 linked article it said under the image "rate." Now I do, I still don't think it's fair but whatever. Not my dog.

Good. People with bad credit need to accept they are risky and have some incentive to fix it.
 

FelixDeCat

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Millions are fleeing California to avoid paying their fair share of taxes. They are also fleeing to Texas because that is one of the states without state income tax. You may disagree with the tax policy, but I don't see how this is ruining California. And every state government needs money to run. What they don't charge you in one department, they will charge you in another department. For example, Texas has the seventh highest real estate tax rate in the country, while California has the thirty-sixth highest real estate tax rate. Also, if Elon Musk is fleeing your state, I'd say good riddance.

Homelessness is high in California, but Texas ranks fifth. Florida, another bastion of the GOP ranks third in homelessness. If I was fleeing a state due to the high homeless population, I'd definitely not flee to Texas. Homelessness is a complicated issue, and not easily solvable.

Newsom did not defund the police. This is the most laughable of your arguments. It's another Faux News lie. During his tenure, Newsom has requested more funding for police. Some cities or counties in California did decrease funding slightly, but state wide, the overwhelming majority had funding increases between 2019 and 2022. In nearly half of the cities or counties, funding increased by more than 10%.

Newsom is on record as saying he disagrees with the policy of not prosecuting certain crimes. While his office can certainly make suggestions and provide guidance, ultimately, it is up to the individual prosecutors offices to prosecute or not prosecute certain crimes. I'm certainly someone who wants to be hard, but fair, on crime. But this is the local prosecutors declining to prosecute. So again, another false argument.

You could go on and on, but none of what you stated so far shows Newsom is ruining California, and most of it is false narratives. At best, you show areas he could improve. But we can say that about every person, whether they are a governor or just an everyday worker walking down the street.

Too many lazy, loafing pot smokers in Cali. Newsome is great... when your stoned.
 

fskimospy

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Too many lazy, loafing pot smokers in Cali. Newsome is great... when your stoned.
Why do you think a state with so many lazy, loafing pot smokers is so much more productive per capita than the state you live in? (Texas, right?)

I mean if these people can smoke weed all day and still massively outperform you isn't that embarrassing for you, not them?
 

fskimospy

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Millions are fleeing California to avoid paying their fair share of taxes. They are also fleeing to Texas because that is one of the states without state income tax. You may disagree with the tax policy, but I don't see how this is ruining California. And every state government needs money to run. What they don't charge you in one department, they will charge you in another department. For example, Texas has the seventh highest real estate tax rate in the country, while California has the thirty-sixth highest real estate tax rate. Also, if Elon Musk is fleeing your state, I'd say good riddance.

Homelessness is high in California, but Texas ranks fifth. Florida, another bastion of the GOP ranks third in homelessness. If I was fleeing a state due to the high homeless population, I'd definitely not flee to Texas. Homelessness is a complicated issue, and not easily solvable.

Newsom did not defund the police. This is the most laughable of your arguments. It's another Faux News lie. During his tenure, Newsom has requested more funding for police. Some cities or counties in California did decrease funding slightly, but state wide, the overwhelming majority had funding increases between 2019 and 2022. In nearly half of the cities or counties, funding increased by more than 10%.

Newsom is on record as saying he disagrees with the policy of not prosecuting certain crimes. While his office can certainly make suggestions and provide guidance, ultimately, it is up to the individual prosecutors offices to prosecute or not prosecute certain crimes. I'm certainly someone who wants to be hard, but fair, on crime. But this is the local prosecutors declining to prosecute. So again, another false argument.

You could go on and on, but none of what you stated so far shows Newsom is ruining California, and most of it is false narratives. At best, you show areas he could improve. But we can say that about every person, whether they are a governor or just an everyday worker walking down the street.
Interesting fact - the household incomes of people moving into California is much higher than the household income of those who are leaving.

It's cost of living, that's it. (it's also the primary driver of homelessness)
 

Pens1566

Lifer
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Interesting fact - the household incomes of people moving into California is much higher than the household income of those who are leaving.

It's cost of living, that's it. (it's also the primary driver of homelessness)

And one of the reasons that the cost of living is high in CA is because it's desirable to live there.
 
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FelixDeCat

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Why do you think a state with so many lazy, loafing pot smokers is so much more productive per capita than the state you live in? (Texas, right?)

I mean if these people can smoke weed all day and still massively outperform you isn't that embarrassing for you, not them?

Please Eskimo, I didn't just fall off a turnip truck last night. I can spot MSN propaganda when I see it. 👀
 
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MrSquished

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Please Eskimo, I didn't just fall off a turnip truck last night. I can spot MSN propaganda when I see it. 👀
If you fell off the turnip truck you would be a turnip right? I'd be impressed if you had as much critical thinking power as an actual turnip really.
 
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fskimospy

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FelixDeCat

Lifer
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If you fell off the turnip truck you would be a turnip right? I'd be impressed if you had as much critical thinking power as an actual turnip really.

Smoking wacky weed affects critical thinking skills and makes you vote for democrats like Newsome and Biden. 🚬

Getting pot heads to see the light is like trying to get blood out of a turnip.
 

fskimospy

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Smoking wacky weed affects critical thinking skills and makes you vote for democrats like Newsome and Biden. 🚬

Getting pot heads to see the light is like trying to get blood out of a turnip.
So why are those people with impaired critical thinking skills so much more productive than the Real Americans in Texas?
 

MrSquished

Lifer
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Smoking wacky weed affects critical thinking skills and makes you vote for democrats like Newsome and Biden. 🚬

Getting pot heads to see the light is like trying to get blood out of a turnip.

Thanks for providing exhibit 11,324 that talking to a stoned turnip that fell off a truck is on a higher intellectual and critical thinking level than any conversation with you could ever be.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
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Today we found out that randomly strewn turnips on the road are more intelligent than your average Texan male. It was a good day.
 

sportage

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Millions are fleeing California to avoid paying their fair share of taxes.

HAHA and HA...
And so... they flee to places like iOwa, but soon discover that iOwa is total crap with even higher taxes AND some of the highest property taxes in the country. And these people fleeing CA then ask themselves.... FOR WHAT did I flee? Why did we flee to iOwa or to anywhere else in the midwest? For the $450,000 homes? For the $2000 a month rent? For the potholed roads? For the low poverty wages? For the lack of industry, unless you want to be a low paid medical worker or love fast-food employment? For the terribly blistering Winter weather? The Summer mosquitoes as big as rats?

And thus, they are forced to flee once AGAIN to yet some other state preferably not in the midwest. Or.... back to California where they came from to finally realize CA wasn't so bad after all.

PS. But I don't know what this has to do with Joe running again?
 

eelw

Lifer
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Ex-squeeze me? Im not the one swallowing MSN "news" around here. If you want any credibility you need fair and balanced reporting from Fox News. They report, you decide.
BWAHAHAHA. Like as Biden said in his correspondence dinner roast, he’d get sued for defamation by calling fox fair and balanced.
 

HomerJS

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Ex-squeeze me? Im not the one swallowing MSN "news" around here. If you want any credibility you need fair and balanced reporting from Fox News. They report, you decide.
I see you are one of those morons still waiting for Obamas Kenyan birth certificate. Think Dominion is the only lie you swallowed from Fox News? Maybe try spitting for a change.
 
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