Joe Lieberman Trump's top choice for FBI director?

[Moonbeam]

You wouldn't believe it is we told you, so why bother?

You know, when you get a hair up your ass it can affect your thinking. Why on earth do you think I would doubt what he believes if he gives me his honest opinion. I asked him what it is, not to argue whether it's right or not, but to hear it, whatever it is. My intention is to show that a person can see unpleasant things about people without having a racial bias.

You should understand that I was as right about the Iraq war as I was about Clinton's message, that both were going to lead to terrible disasters. How's your batting average?

 

[ivwshane]

You know, when you get a hair up your ass it can affect your thinking. Why on earth do you think I would doubt what he believes if he gives me his honest opinion. I asked him what it is, not to argue whether it's right or not, but to hear it, whatever it is. My intention is to show that a person can see unpleasant things about people without having a racial bias.

You should understand that I was as right about the Iraq war as I was about Clinton's message, that both were going to lead to terrible disasters. How's your batting average?

Lol, I was also right about both of those things. What do I win? Did you want a cookie for your batting average or do you need me to tell you how wise you are and stroke your ego and tell you how you are such a unique snowflake? Or should I point out that your record for judging one's character is pretty horrible despite your amazing ability to predict the future of the obvious? Or should I stay quiet about the fact that your character judgment is typically shallow and based on confirmation bias and that you have a habit of viewing people's actions on a superficial level with little curiosity for the truth?

His point wasn't that he thought you were being anti-semitic, it's that you singled out three people when a majority of congressmen voted for the war. Again, your hatred is misplaced and based on superficial reasoning.

 

[ch33zw1z]

So trump will put a lap dog in there, are we surprised?

 

[sdifox]

Everyone knows this is banana republic, just drop the pretenses and appoint Jared already.

 

[cytg111]

You think he will be loyal though? I suspect thats the nr.1 criteria.

edit : the stage is pretty silent today .. no daily crisis ?

 

[fskimospy]

Yeah, you forgot the part where he campaigned for McCain against Obama in 2008, and his subsequent obstruction of the ACA in the Senate, not to mention his hatred of Obama and endorsement of Trump. I'm sure Trump will point to the fact that he was once a democrat at some point in time to validate the pick, but he knows very well that he couldn't have picked someone more objectionable.

Why not appoint someone who comes from law enforcement? What is the point of having a politician in this role anyway?

Let's not forget that he also works for one of Trump's primary law firms, so basically Trump is hiring one of his own lawyers to head the agency charged with investigating him.

Complete and utter corruption. This is banana republic shit.

 

[K1052]

His nomination would be as big a political miscalculation as thinking the Comey firing would be met with praise from the Democrats. Not only will there be an ugly confirmation fight because the Dems already hate him I'm skeptical the FBI rank and file will react favorably to Trump putting a political puppet in the Director's office. It could easily mean new leaks galore.

 

[woolfe9998]

Lieberman because the thread is about him. The other two because I personally voted for them pre-war and then against them after I made my assessment of what motivated their vote. But then you should have been able to spot me as antisemitic alone, from my rabid contempt for that Jew, Sanders. What is your honest opinion as to why a liberal woman like Clinton as a New York senator voted to support the war?

If you voted for Lantos then you must live near me. He was my Congressman before he retired in 2008. Lantos was one of the most progressive members of Congress in spite of voting in favor of the war. I strongly disagreed with him on the war, but agreed with most of his other positions. I tend not to use single issues as a litmus test. Lantos also became a staunch critic of the war in later years. And if you look at his foreign policy positions, he was a strong supporter of human rights. On the whole, I think he was a good Congressman.

So far as why Clinton voted for the war, there are two theories. One is proposed by her biographer, Carl Bernstein, who says her work ethic failed her in this case. She didn't delve deeply enough into the voluminous intel she had access to, or she would have known that there was doubt about WMD's which the Bush admin was concealing. The other theory - my theory - is that she voted for the war because it was polling well at the time and she knew her vote wasn't needed to pass it. The reason I support this theory is that it's consistent with a weakness with both of the Clinton, that they have a tendency to compromise their positions for what they perceive as political advantage. In this case, it was the worst political move of Clinton's career, almost certainly costing her the primary in 2008, and since she would have defeated McCain, the presidency as well. The whole truth might be some combination of these two theories. I haven't the slightest idea why her representing the State of New York would have had anything to do with it. Do you?

I thought it was rather jarring that you singled out these three among the hundreds voting for the war as traitors. It's an age old anti-semitic stereotype that Jews are disloyal to their home countries. Before Israel, it was an international Jewish conspiracy that they were said to be loyal to. Later, it was Israel. I think a lot of people on the left have an unhealthy obsession with Israel. Israel supported the war. There is zero evidence that anyone in our government favored the war because Israel supported it.

While I'm unimpressed with the argument that supporting Sanders automatically makes you not anti-semitic, I'll take your word on it. I'm not going to assume you're anti-semitic based on one post. My reply was more a curiosity as to why you singled those three out. I'll accept your explanation.

 

[dank69]

If you voted for Lantos then you must live near me. He was my Congressman before he retired in 2008. Lantos was one of the most progressive members of Congress in spite of voting in favor of the war. I strongly disagreed with him on the war, but agreed with most of his other positions. I tend not to use single issues as a litmus test. Lantos also became a staunch critic of the war in later years. And if you look at his foreign policy positions, he was a strong supporter of human rights. On the whole, I think he was a good Congressman.

So far as why Clinton voted for the war, there are two theories. One is proposed by her biographer, Carl Bernstein, who says her work ethic failed her in this case. She didn't delve deeply enough into the voluminous intel she had access to, or she would have known that there was doubt about WMD's which the Bush admin was concealing. The other theory - my theory - is that she voted for the war because it was polling well at the time and she knew her vote wasn't needed to pass it. The reason I support this theory is that it's consistent with a weakness with both of the Clinton, that they have a tendency to compromise their positions for what they perceive as political advantage. In this case, it was the worst political move of Clinton's career, almost certainly costing her the primary in 2008, and since she would have defeated McCain, the presidency as well. The whole truth might be some combination of these two theories. I haven't the slightest idea why her representing the State of New York would have had anything to do with it. Do you?

I thought it was rather jarring that you singled out these three among the hundreds voting for the war as traitors. It's an age old anti-semitic stereotype that Jews are disloyal to their home countries. Before Israel, it was an international Jewish conspiracy that they were said to be loyal to. Later, it was Israel. I think a lot of people on the left have an unhealthy obsession with Israel. Israel supported the war. There is zero evidence that anyone in our government favored the war because Israel supported it.

While I'm unimpressed with the argument that supporting Sanders automatically makes you not anti-semitic, I'll take your word on it. I'm not going to assume you're anti-semitic based on one post. My reply was more a curiosity as to why you singled those three out. I'll accept your explanation.

I thought her explanation was that she didn't vote for the war but that she voted for the authorization because Bush needed it to bully Iraq into complying and they weren't really going to have to actually go to war?

 

[woolfe9998]

I thought her explanation was that she didn't vote for the war but that she voted for the authorization because Bush needed it to bully Iraq into complying and they weren't really going to have to actually go to war?

AFAIK, she has always said that she was misled about the WMD's just like everyone else.

 

[soundforbjt]

Naturally on Faux they're saying how great a pick Joe would be, that tells me it's a huge mistake.

 

[sm625]

You know why its Lieberman . It is because Lieberman is (((Lieberman))). You know who rules this country.

There is no place for such raw, ugly, anti-semitism here. None.

Perknose
Forum Director

 

[woolfe9998]

You know why its Lieberman . It is because Lieberman is (((Lieberman))). You know who rules this country.

I don't understand. Please explain.

 

[sm625]

I don't understand. Please explain.

Trump has been instructed to pick a name from this list:

https://socioecohistory.wordpress.c...ship-list-of-the-illuminati-committee-of-300/

Either he does so because he is their stooge all along, or he does so because another "Assad gassed his own people" event occurs if he does not comply.

 

[fskimospy]

I don't understand. Please explain.

His post is pretty unequivocal. Hopefully I'm not pointing out the obvious but encasing someone's name in parentheses like that is something that modern white supremacists do to identify someone as Jewish.

So basically his post is saying that Lieberman was selected because he's a dirty Jew and dirty Jews run the world. Absolutely disgusting. I don't normally report posts but I've reported this one.

 

[woolfe9998]

His post is pretty unequivocal. Hopefully I'm not pointing out the obvious but encasing someone's name in parentheses like that is something that modern white supremacists do to identify someone as Jewish.

So basically his post is saying that Lieberman was selected because he's a dirty Jew and dirty Jews run the world. Absolutely disgusting. I don't normally report posts but I've reported this one.

Yes, I thought I'd give him an opportunity to explain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_parentheses

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Trump has been instructed to pick a name from this list:

https://socioecohistory.wordpress.c...ship-list-of-the-illuminati-committee-of-300/

Either he does so because he is their stooge all along, or he does so because another "Assad gassed his own people" event occurs if he does not comply.

Sorry unless we're talking about the old card game, I refuse to click of any link with the word "illuminati" in it.
I'll give a pass to a fiction book or movie.

 

[theeedude]

We need someone with unimpeachable integrity. Lieberman blocked the public option while his wife was a lobbyist for the health insurance industry. He is a poster boy for Washington corruption.

 

[ivwshane]

Yes, I thought I'd give him an opportunity to explain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_parentheses

How the hell did you guys know about that? I knew what sm625 meant but I don't know the brackets was a thing. Wow

 

[woolfe9998]

How the hell did you guys know about that? I knew what sm625 meant but I don't know the brackets was a thing. Wow

I didn't, but I suspected anti-semitism from his post, so I googled "triple parentheses." I was curious what he would give as an explanation. Maybe Eski knew about it in advance.

I also ran a search on his prior posts. He apparently believes, among other things, that it is "established fact" that Hitler was a Jew. You can see his reply to me above with the "illuminati" thing. It would be amusing if not so pathetic.

 

[ivwshane]

I didn't, but I suspected anti-semitism from his post, so I googled "triple parentheses." I was curious what he would give as an explanation. Maybe Eski knew about it in advance.

I also ran a search on his prior posts. He apparently believes, among other things, that it is "established fact" that Hitler was a Jew. You can see his reply to me above with the "illuminati" thing. It would be amusing if not so pathetic.

He is a pathetic poster and apparently an antii-semite as well.

 

[fskimospy]

I didn't, but I suspected anti-semitism from his post, so I googled "triple parentheses." I was curious what he would give as an explanation. Maybe Eski knew about it in advance.

I can't remember which one but one of the authors I follow did the whole 'triple parentheses in solidarity' thing last year, which is when I first heard about it.

I also ran a search on his prior posts. He apparently believes, among other things, that it is "established fact" that Hitler was a Jew. You can see his reply to me above with the "illuminati" thing. It would be amusing if not so pathetic.

So basically he's into the lizard people. Nice.

 

[woolfe9998]

I can't remember which one but one of the authors I follow did the whole 'triple parentheses in solidarity' thing last year, which is when I first heard about it.



So basically he's into the lizard people. Nice.

If he's really a follower of someone like David Icke, it's hard to get angry about it. Pity might be a more appropriate reaction.

 

[zinfamous]

I had to think about that one. It was a Senator, John Stennis. I found a wiki article on those shens.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stennis_Compromise

I had no idea. That is quite hilarious.

 

[Theb]

Don't know much about Joe Lieberman other than he was Gore's Veep pick, I thought that automatically meant he was pre-vetted and good to go as far as Dems are concerned.

Yes there's no better vetting for this position than being the VP nominee from a failed campaign which is why I don't understand why Republicans aren't demanding that Sarah Palin be nominated.