Joe Gibbs refuses to shake Belichick's hand?

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LikeLinus

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Originally posted by: Anubis
fuck unwritten rules the Pats have made it clear the whol season they are gonna keep playing and score all game, because they are just that much fucking better then everyone else

Well, like their team, it appears their fans are classless also.

Any good coach and/or team would never do what. At the same time though, their ahole fans have no right to call a hall of fame coach a classless act because they want to say "f everyone in the nfl".
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"Is this the pee-wee league?" No, it's a PROFESSIONAL league. So WTF does Bill and his team has to CHEAT and act like little children on the playground? Can your so-called "professionals" not represent themselves and their team in a professional manner? But it's all just a GAME isn't it? It's all meaningless and Bill is just an asshole in the general sense of the word.

Pot...meet kettle. Class dismissed.
 

Jhill

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Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Originally posted by: Jhill
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Walks off the field without shaking Bill B's hand. Weak sauce.

Up by 40+ points and they are still throwing the ball and trying to score a TD?

That and the fact that he's a known cheater....yeah I'd say Joe is the one that is "classless".

Bill doesn't deserve a handshake.

If he wants to stop the Pats from scoring, then maybe his overrated D should've stepped up and stopped them. Creamed or not, it's a classless gesture not to shake the opposing coaches hand at the end of a game, end of story.

You have to love fanboy's point of view.

Wrong...flat out. There's an unwritten rule in football that when you're ahead big at the end of the game you RUN the ball and don't go for it on 4 and 1.

Do you EVER see Manning doing that? I didn't think so.

It's not classless when the other person is a POS and doesn't deserve it. Sorry bud, you're wrong.

Bill = the Steve Spurrier of the NFL. Everyone hates both of them for good reason.


I know he ran up the score. Who cares? It's an Offenses job to score. Is this the pee-wee league? Give me a break. And if Big Bad Bill is such a jerk as you make him out to be, why does Gibbs have to stoop to his level and not shake his hand?

"I know he ran up the score . Who cares?"

Could you be a little more ignorant? This just proves your nothing more than a bandwagon patriot fan. Anyone that follows football at all know it's classless to RUTS.

It's "you're" first off. If you're going to call someone ignorant, at least fix your own form of ignorance, which happens to be grammar. And I personally don't care if a team runs up the score. It's the NFL. It's meant to be entertaining. If that's being a bandwagon fan under your own inane logic, then so be it.

If we were debating grammar, you would have a point. But we are not.
So you don't care if a coach RUTS or cheats but someone is classless to not shake a hand?
 

Reckoner

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Originally posted by: Jhill
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Originally posted by: Jhill
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Walks off the field without shaking Bill B's hand. Weak sauce.

Up by 40+ points and they are still throwing the ball and trying to score a TD?

That and the fact that he's a known cheater....yeah I'd say Joe is the one that is "classless".

Bill doesn't deserve a handshake.

If he wants to stop the Pats from scoring, then maybe his overrated D should've stepped up and stopped them. Creamed or not, it's a classless gesture not to shake the opposing coaches hand at the end of a game, end of story.

You have to love fanboy's point of view.

Wrong...flat out. There's an unwritten rule in football that when you're ahead big at the end of the game you RUN the ball and don't go for it on 4 and 1.

Do you EVER see Manning doing that? I didn't think so.

It's not classless when the other person is a POS and doesn't deserve it. Sorry bud, you're wrong.

Bill = the Steve Spurrier of the NFL. Everyone hates both of them for good reason.


I know he ran up the score. Who cares? It's an Offenses job to score. Is this the pee-wee league? Give me a break. And if Big Bad Bill is such a jerk as you make him out to be, why does Gibbs have to stoop to his level and not shake his hand?

"I know he ran up the score . Who cares?"

Could you be a little more ignorant? This just proves your nothing more than a bandwagon patriot fan. Anyone that follows football at all know it's classless to RUTS.

It's "you're" first off. If you're going to call someone ignorant, at least fix your own form of ignorance, which happens to be grammar. And I personally don't care if a team runs up the score. It's the NFL. It's meant to be entertaining. If that's being a bandwagon fan under your own inane logic, then so be it.

If we were debating grammar, you would have a point. But we are not.
So you don't care if a coach RUTS or cheats but someone is classless to not shake a hand?

No, I don't care if a coach runs up the score. The D should step up and stop them. As for cheating, of course I care. Belichick deserved to be punished for what occured, as well as the team. The loss of a 1st rounder is the most severe sanction the NFL has handed down on a team. They were punished accordingly. The fact that you want to drag this out won't change the fact that he was caught, punished accordingly, and moved on.
 

lupi

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This the same Bill B. that did all he could to ignore Mangini after being beat by him?
 

Phokus

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*Snicker*, there's no such thing as 'running up the score' in professional sports. Nobody whines about a 12-0 baseball game, or a 30 or 40 point blowout in a basketball game. This is probably the first time i've ever heard whining about 'running up the score' in any sport. Don't want the team to score? Have your defense stop them. These are grown adult professionals paid millions of dollars, not high schoolers. Want 'classy'? Go watch a high school game with a mercy rule or something.
 
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Originally posted by: axelfox
Maybe he felt that NE was running up the score.

Could be. Toward the end there was a defensive TD and the 2nd stringers scored a TD. No big deal there. But going for it on 4th and 1 instead of kicking a chip-shot field goal when you're up 38-0? NE didn't need the points. BB did that to be an asshole. I don't blame Joe Gibbs for walking off the field. I'd bet ya if BB kicks the field goal in that situation those two would have had a handshake at the end.

Now granted, I do subscribe to the belief that if you don't want to get beat 52-7 you should play better... But I also believe that at some point you kick the field goal.
 

Glitchny

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I always find it funny that so many ppl complain about the Pats scoring late in games. It's not their fault the opposing defense is terrible. And maybe they didnt need to run it on 4th and 1 with brady up the middle. But come on, it was Tom Brady (one of the slowest men in the nfl) on a dive up the middle.... its exactly what u ppl wanted them to do. run it up the middle. hell they didnt even use a RB to do it. and that close to the endzone why not take a shot, this isnt pee wee football. If you're good enough to stop them, then you have to be good enough the entire game.

And they did take brady out after it was embarassingly obvious the redskins should never have stepped on the field. And then they couldnt stop the pats B-Team. Hell the Pats RAN it for a TD on a scramble from a backup QB... what did u want? them to give it to a lineman and have him run it?

All the fans that are upset need to get over the whole running up the score thing. There is no mercy rule in the NFL. There are no "unwritten rules of coaching" in the NFL. Teams play to win, and their job is to score points. It's become obvious that BB doesnt care what ppl think of him and the way he pours on the offense. Just think of it as motivation for your team to play better next time.

I dont think Gibbs is Classless at all. I agree BB ran up the score and Gibbs has every right to be pissed/embarrassed/ashamed/infuriated etc. If he doesnt want to shake hands then he doesnt have to. But it's not BB's fault that the skins couldnt stop his Backup team
 

Capt Caveman

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Gibbs should be embarrassed for not preparing his team better. Belichick made him look like a pop warner coach today.
 
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Originally posted by: Glitchny
I always find it funny that so many ppl complain about the Pats scoring late in games. It's not their fault the opposing defense is terrible. And maybe they didnt need to run it on 4th and 1 with brady up the middle. But come on, it was Tom Brady (one of the slowest men in the nfl) on a dive up the middle.... its exactly what u ppl wanted them to do. run it up the middle. hell they didnt even use a RB to do it. and that close to the endzone why not take a shot, this isnt pee wee football. If you're good enough to stop them, then you have to be good enough the entire game.
And they did take brady out after it was embarassingly obvious the redskins should never have stepped on the field. And then they couldnt stop the pats B-Team. Hell the Pats RAN it for a TD on a scramble from a backup QB... what did u want? them to give it to a lineman and have him run it?

All the fans that are upset need to get over the whole running up the score thing. There is no mercy rule in the NFL. There are no "unwritten rules of coaching" in the NFL. Teams play to win, and their job is to score points. It's become obvious that BB doesnt care what ppl think of him and the way he pours on the offense. Just think of it as motivation for your team to play better next time.

I dont think Gibbs is Classless at all. I agree BB ran up the score and Gibbs has every right to be pissed/embarrassed/ashamed/infuriated etc. If he doesnt want to shake hands then he doesnt have to. But it's not BB's fault that the skins couldnt stop his Backup team

Like I said earlier... I don't care about the Cassel TD nor do I care about the fumble return for TD. The only thing I saw that was just blatently FU-in-your-face-joker over the top was going for it on 4th and 1 instead of kicking the chipshot field goal when it was 38-0.

I'm sure Joe Gibbs saw it the same way too. Who knows.
 
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Originally posted by: Phokus
*Snicker*, there's no such thing as 'running up the score' in professional sports. Nobody whines about a 12-0 baseball game, or a 30 or 40 point blowout in a basketball game. This is probably the first time i've ever heard whining about 'running up the score' in any sport. Don't want the team to score? Have your defense stop them. These are grown adult professionals paid millions of dollars, not high schoolers. Want 'classy'? Go watch a high school game with a mercy rule or something.

when was the last time you saw starters in a basketball game once they were up by like 20 or so with time left in the 4th quarter?
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
Originally posted by: Phokus
*Snicker*, there's no such thing as 'running up the score' in professional sports. Nobody whines about a 12-0 baseball game, or a 30 or 40 point blowout in a basketball game. This is probably the first time i've ever heard whining about 'running up the score' in any sport. Don't want the team to score? Have your defense stop them. These are grown adult professionals paid millions of dollars, not high schoolers. Want 'classy'? Go watch a high school game with a mercy rule or something.

when was the last time you saw starters in a basketball game once they were up by like 20 or so with time left in the 4th quarter?

he wouldent know he like I does not watch the worst professional sport in the US
 

Jhill

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Originally posted by: lupi
This the same Bill B. that did all he could to ignore Mangini after being beat by him?

"Patriots coach Bill Belichick? Not only isn't he mentioning Mangini, he isn't even recognizing Mangini's existence. When the two met at midfield after the Patriots beat the Jets 24-17 at the Meadowlands in Week 2, Mangini's first game against his mentor, it looked as if the Hartford native and former Bulkeley and Wesleyan star might have been looking to hug Belichick, who used to talk about Mangini like a favorite son

Instead, Belichick barely brushed Mangini's palm and looked away in what might have been the worst excuse for a handshake in NFL history.".


Yes, Same guy. Apparently it's OK when he does it though.
 

Glitchny

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: Glitchny
I always find it funny that so many ppl complain about the Pats scoring late in games. It's not their fault the opposing defense is terrible. And maybe they didnt need to run it on 4th and 1 with brady up the middle. But come on, it was Tom Brady (one of the slowest men in the nfl) on a dive up the middle.... its exactly what u ppl wanted them to do. run it up the middle. hell they didnt even use a RB to do it. and that close to the endzone why not take a shot, this isnt pee wee football. If you're good enough to stop them, then you have to be good enough the entire game.
And they did take brady out after it was embarassingly obvious the redskins should never have stepped on the field. And then they couldnt stop the pats B-Team. Hell the Pats RAN it for a TD on a scramble from a backup QB... what did u want? them to give it to a lineman and have him run it?

All the fans that are upset need to get over the whole running up the score thing. There is no mercy rule in the NFL. There are no "unwritten rules of coaching" in the NFL. Teams play to win, and their job is to score points. It's become obvious that BB doesnt care what ppl think of him and the way he pours on the offense. Just think of it as motivation for your team to play better next time.

I dont think Gibbs is Classless at all. I agree BB ran up the score and Gibbs has every right to be pissed/embarrassed/ashamed/infuriated etc. If he doesnt want to shake hands then he doesnt have to. But it's not BB's fault that the skins couldnt stop his Backup team

Like I said earlier... I don't care about the Cassel TD nor do I care about the fumble return for TD. The only thing I saw that was just blatently FU-in-your-face-joker over the top was going for it on 4th and 1 instead of kicking the chipshot field goal when it was 38-0.

I'm sure Joe Gibbs saw it the same way too. Who knows.

Yea I understand that could be considered running up the score. but technically kicking a fieldgoal would also have been adding to the score as well. while they probably shouldnt have thrown the TD to welker(which boosted my fantasy points) the result probably would have been the same if they kept running the ball. And I agree that Gibbs has every right to be mad, i just hate the whole "Unwritten rule" argument. Gibbs is mad he got embarrassed in front of national tv, in a game that some people said the redskins could win.
 

waggy

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poor pats.

damned if they do damned if they don't.


IF they were not running up the score (having close games) people would say "see proof they need to cheat to score alot!" So the run up the score to prove they don't need such things to win. people still bitch about them.

 

LegendKiller

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Originally posted by: Phokus
*Snicker*, there's no such thing as 'running up the score' in professional sports. Nobody whines about a 12-0 baseball game, or a 30 or 40 point blowout in a basketball game. This is probably the first time i've ever heard whining about 'running up the score' in any sport. Don't want the team to score? Have your defense stop them. These are grown adult professionals paid millions of dollars, not high schoolers. Want 'classy'? Go watch a high school game with a mercy rule or something.

baseball is completely different. If it was time constrained then I could see. However, since there is no clock, you could be up 12-0 and the losing team could have a 1-hour inning where they scored 13 times. Big difference.

Basketball is also a little difference, since it is a fast game that can switch in a heartbeat. Not to mention you can't run down the clock very much in a basketball game, at least not as much as football.
 

purbeast0

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I am a die hard redskins fan and I just want to say that Joe Gibbs is the biggest fvcking pussy in all of football and Al Saunders (whether they could contact him or not during the game) is a fvcking pussy as well.

EDIT:

i'm glad they ran the score up. a team is on the field to score points, not to take knees.
 
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Originally posted by: Glitchny
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Like I said earlier... I don't care about the Cassel TD nor do I care about the fumble return for TD. The only thing I saw that was just blatently FU-in-your-face-joker over the top was going for it on 4th and 1 instead of kicking the chipshot field goal when it was 38-0.

I'm sure Joe Gibbs saw it the same way too. Who knows.

Yea I understand that could be considered running up the score. but technically kicking a fieldgoal would also have been adding to the score as well. while they probably shouldnt have thrown the TD to welker(which boosted my fantasy points) the result probably would have been the same if they kept running the ball. And I agree that Gibbs has every right to be mad, i just hate the whole "Unwritten rule" argument. Gibbs is mad he got embarrassed in front of national tv, in a game that some people said the redskins could win.

Some people? :laugh: Who are these people? Three or four die-hard fanbois in DC...? Maybe? LMAO...

Personally I think Coach B did it for the same reason he's run up the score in evry other game this season... After getting caught with the camera shinanigans at the beginning of the season there were some who dared to say that NE's SB wins were somehow tainted. Right now BB is shouting out a big FU to the rest of the league. If he could score 100 points a game he would.

I doubt this was anything personal against Gibbs... Just Bill being Bill... showing the world that not only is NE a great team... but they can do whatever they want, whenever they want, as many times as they want in any way they choose to do it. And if you dare to resist the inevitable ending (like the Dolphins did last week, showing the audacity to score a defensive touch down) you'll only get pounded harder.

But he still should have kicked the field goal.. a-hole cost me three points in fantasy.

Just my two cents...
 

dartworth

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Originally posted by: waggy
poor pats.

damned if they do damned if they don't.


IF they were not running up the score (having close games) people would say "see proof they need to cheat to score alot!" So the run up the score to prove they don't need such things to win. people still bitch about them.


it is safe to assume they still cheat...
 

Rockinacoustic

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A win's a win. Whether it a sloppy Giants one or a decimating New England one it's the same result.

The Patriots have arguably the best offense ever. Should they show pity on opponents and play their third-team after the half each game? No, that's just naive and showing no class to the opponent.
 

Capt Caveman

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Originally posted by: dartworth
Originally posted by: waggy
poor pats.

damned if they do damned if they don't.


IF they were not running up the score (having close games) people would say "see proof they need to cheat to score alot!" So the run up the score to prove they don't need such things to win. people still bitch about them.


it is safe to assume they still cheat...

Got proof? Nope.