Joe Biden at it again

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SammyJr

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Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: Mursilis
Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
Sometimes you do have to spend money to save money. Do none of you buy in bulk, buy substitute goods, or perform preventative maintenance? I think Biden is absolutely right here, this is preventative maintenance.

Or maybe it's just a naked attempt to buy votes at the expense of future generations.

Lack of cost controls in health care plan

could be your just a goofball with nothing of any importance to say....
Biden is absolutely correct here. It`s people like you who are still crying because OBama got elected that fail to open your eyes and see the light!!

You mean the light of your Messiah coming down from the heavens on wings of angels?

Sheesh, you Obambots are downright religious in your fervor for all things Obama.

LOL. Another guy jerking off to Palin while using the term "Messiah". Good boy.
 

miniMUNCH

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Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
Sometimes you do have to spend money to save money. Do none of you buy in bulk, buy substitute goods, or perform preventative maintenance? I think Biden is absolutely right here, this is preventative maintenance.

How so? Please explain to me how healthcare is like buying diapers? Perhaps you have some amazing wisdom that even Nobel laureates have not yet grasped.
 

BoberFett

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Originally posted by: SammyJr
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: Mursilis
Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
Sometimes you do have to spend money to save money. Do none of you buy in bulk, buy substitute goods, or perform preventative maintenance? I think Biden is absolutely right here, this is preventative maintenance.

Or maybe it's just a naked attempt to buy votes at the expense of future generations.

Lack of cost controls in health care plan

could be your just a goofball with nothing of any importance to say....
Biden is absolutely correct here. It`s people like you who are still crying because OBama got elected that fail to open your eyes and see the light!!

You mean the light of your Messiah coming down from the heavens on wings of angels?

Sheesh, you Obambots are downright religious in your fervor for all things Obama.

LOL. Another guy jerking off to Palin while using the term "Messiah". Good boy.

Jerking off to a Palin? What's a Palin?
 
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Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
Sometimes you do have to spend money to save money. Do none of you buy in bulk, buy substitute goods, or perform preventative maintenance? I think Biden is absolutely right here, this is preventative maintenance.

How so? Please explain to me how healthcare is like buying diapers? Perhaps you have some amazing wisdom that even Nobel laureates have not yet grasped.

It's not like buying diapers. It is like buying a new roof instead of a new house when the leaky one you are in is condemned from all the mold that's growing from the water damage.
 

Strk

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While not trying to get off topic, did they ever do anything to help reduce the cost of the medicare prescription drug plan? I'm just curious. I guess it's just my way of wondering if they don't fix one, why would I want them to do another.
 

Siddhartha

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Originally posted by: alphatarget1
Originally posted by: Siddhartha

Someone dinged my car while it was parked in a parking and chipped the paint. If I get it fixed now will be cheaper than waiting for the break in the paint to lead to extensive rust damage which will cost thousands more to fix.

You have to paid one way or another. Fixing the problem now is cheaper than waiting for the situation to get really bad later.

Bad analogy. A bottle of touch-up paint is at most $10.

Not really. I understand what Mr Biden is saying, fix the problem now for $20 or wait until the whole fender is rusted which will cost a lot more.

Some people think there isn't a health care problem and the current system works perfectly or good enough for them, their friends and family.

As far as I can see there is no point in discussing the issue any further with these people.
 

lupi

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Originally posted by: jonks

2. I don't think this is a big gaffe. Sounds like a different way of saying "You've got to spend money to make money."


And when you have run out of money and have yet to reach the "make money" portion of the equation, what do you call that?
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Siddhartha
Originally posted by: Rockinacoustic
Joe Biden: ?We Have to Go Spend Money to Keep From Going Bankrupt?

Vice President Joe Biden told people attending an AARP town hall meeting that unless the Democrat-supported health care plan becomes law the nation will go bankrupt and that the only way to avoid that fate is for the government to spend more money.

?And folks look, AARP knows and the people with me here today know, the president knows, and I know, that the status quo is simply not acceptable,? Biden said at the event on Thursday in Alexandria, Va. ?It?s totally unacceptable. And it?s completely unsustainable. Even if we wanted to keep it the way we have it now. It can?t do it financially.?

?We?re going to go bankrupt as a nation,? Biden said.

?Now, people when I say that look at me and say, ?What are you talking about, Joe? You?re telling me we have to go spend money to keep from going bankrupt??? Biden said. ?The answer is yes, that's what I?m telling you.?

The event, sponsored by the AARP ? which supports the Obama administration?s plan ? was attended by mostly AARP members who were bussed in for the meeting.

Biden told the group that the Obama health plan will not eliminate people?s ability to choose their health care insurance and that people who cannot afford insurance will be covered by the plan.

?They?ll be a deal in there so there?s competition, so what you?ll have in there is you?ll have the ability to go in there and say, ?Now look, this is the policy I want. This is the one,? Biden said.

?And those people who can?t afford to get in there, up to a certain income, we?re going to subsidize them, you get in there and we?ll help you pay for it,? Biden said.

After opening remarks by Biden and AARP CEO A. Barry Rand, the audience asked questions, which were fielded by Biden, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius and Nancy Ann DeParle, director of the White House Office of Health Reform.

Now I'm no economist, but the way to stop losing money is to cut spending, and or make investments towards higher return outcomes. How in the world can Biden make a claim such as this?

Someone dinged my car while it was parked in a parking and chipped the paint. If I get it fixed now will be cheaper than waiting for the break in the paint to lead to extensive rust damage which will cost thousands more to fix.

You have to pay one way or another. Fixing the problem now is cheaper than waiting for the situation to get really bad later.

Well in that case, you better strip it down to it's original parts, replace them with completely new ones, hastily fabricated that may or may not work. Make sure to plate some of them in gold. Put it all back together by an untrained mechanic and cross your fingers your car is better than before.

 

Budmantom

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It's great to see the leftists scramble while Biden talks.


Barry and Biden say the dumbest shit and people will defend it.....
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Budmantom
It's great to see the leftists scramble while Biden talks.


Barry and Biden say the dumbest shit and people will defend it.....

Not really. You are just way way too stupid to understand them.
 

Budmantom

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: Budmantom
It's great to see the leftists scramble while Biden talks.


Barry and Biden say the dumbest shit and people will defend it.....

Not really. You are just way way too stupid to understand them.




Understanding Barry and Biden your IQ must be at or below 70, you must be good to go.
 

Patranus

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Originally posted by: Siddhartha
Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
Sometimes you do have to spend money to save money. Do none of you buy in bulk, buy substitute goods, or perform preventative maintenance? I think Biden is absolutely right here, this is preventative maintenance.

The reality of discussions about health care is that some people are happy with the current system and really do not see a need to do anything.

Your post should read

The reality of discussions about health care is that most people are happy with the current system and really do not see a need to do anything.

I really do not understand why people want to put trust in the government to keep track of their health records. After all, it is this government that lost or recorded over the original taps of the moon landing.....THE FREAKING MOON LANDING....
 

trenchfoot

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Yep, ideologically misguided and agenda-driven parsing is always a sincere, honest and forthright way to make a point. lol

How any one can consider using this methodology as a way to make a sound convincing argument is beyond me, but I guess when firing blanks is the only means available toward denigrating a numerically and politically superior opponent, what can one expect?
 

TruePaige

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Originally posted by: Patranus
Originally posted by: Siddhartha
Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
Sometimes you do have to spend money to save money. Do none of you buy in bulk, buy substitute goods, or perform preventative maintenance? I think Biden is absolutely right here, this is preventative maintenance.

The reality of discussions about health care is that some people are happy with the current system and really do not see a need to do anything.

Your post should read

The reality of discussions about health care is that most people are happy with the current system and really do not see a need to do anything.

I really do not understand why people want to put trust in the government to keep track of their health records. After all, it is this government that lost or recorded over the original taps of the moon landing.....THE FREAKING MOON LANDING....

Nothing in your post is true...
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: Budmantom
It's great to see the leftists scramble while Biden talks.


Barry and Biden say the dumbest shit and people will defend it.....

Not really. You are just way way too stupid to understand them.




Understanding Barry and Biden your IQ must be at or below 70, you must be good to go.

I once told a very bright person that he was intelligent and he began to scream that I would have no idea, and then he amended his words, with, "will yes, thank you. Stupid people would have no idea who smart I am because they are too stupid to know, but you can see how smart I am because you are too."

I can also tell I am way way smarter than you because I can walk around looking at the sites and all you do is walk around in fear that some gay guy is going to rear end you. Yes, there is no doubt at all that you are quite stupid and filled with immature fears people with an IQ of 3 quickly grow out of. Biden and Obama are way way over your head.

And furthermore, if anybody needs additional proof, you delight like the moron you are debating me when I address you in a way that equally how stupid you are. Your Mama is so fat, that when she sat on you as a baby your brain got welded to the floor. You are a poo poo head.
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: Budmantom
It's great to see the leftists scramble while Biden talks.


Barry and Biden say the dumbest shit and people will defend it.....

more nonsense by Budmanton...yuk yuk yuk
 

Patranus

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Originally posted by: TruePaige
Nothing in your post is true...

Actually, everything in my post is true.

Any "change" desired in the current heath system is the result of perceived costs but when polled the majority of Americans are satisfied with the care they receive. 70% is the majority, in fact is is more than a "super majority" therefore I feel comfortable using the term most.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.co...09/07/obama-media.html
http://www.forbes.com/2009/06/...nists-health-care.html

Original moon landing tape lost
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A..._program_missing_tapes
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200...n_sc/us_sci_moon_video

Apologize
http://images.southparkstudios.../1101/1101_apology.jpg