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Job ideas for someone with Meniere's Disease

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TL;DR: Could people recommend some job ideas for a 50 year old with no college education, basic art design background, unemployed for a couple years, and limited physical abilities due to vertigo. Comcast help desk hires in the area. Costco checker is too difficult (!); my guess is Star Bucks is too much time on his feet.

Long Version: We have a friend who has some physical issues but needs a job. More accurately he needs to work and it doesn't really matter what.

The challenge is he has some physical issues and very limited skill set.

He has Meniere's disease and high blood pressure. He doesn't qualify for disability but the vertigo does impact his ability to do some jobs (exertion and long hours on his feet exasperate his issues). In general he is a sickly person (in 2016 he has had a couple kidney stones and C Diff. that relapsed) and while not overweight is excessively sedentary and lacks strength or stamina.

He lives 30 miles north of Seattle, is 52, doesn't have a college education, has a wife, a teenage son, his elderly/disabled mother lives with him, and has been unemployed for a couple years. He was previously employed for about 15 years as graphics design artist for a jacket company. My understanding is he allowed his skills to stagnate to a degree while doing stencil style logos and really cannot compete with younger, more talented, more "hungry" (i.e. driven) artists. I tried web design and that didn't go well--he is a person who needs direction and oversight as he isn't very organized or self motivated enough for independent work. He lacks self confidence and struggles with major depression.

He loses his house in June and will be on the street (literally) unless he finds work.

He has been looking and working with a recruiter as well as a state job counselor. He is in all the programs, even the one that offers to pay employers to take on employees who have been out of work for long periods.

He is not a desirable candidate for the jobs he wants or the pay range he feels entitled to.

As you can tell the frank reality is he needs to suck it up and get a job--or two.

I am understanding of his real physical challenges, like Meniere's which isn't fun (I had SCDS and can vouch vertigo and audio/balance disturbances are difficult to deal with), but the reality is he needs to work. Now. And stop making excuses. Because if he takes his present course of expecting others to

Just telling him that doesn't work -- maybe nothing will.

But a number of his friends, mainly out of concern for his wife/son/mother, want to present some job ideas he cannot dismiss out of hand due to health. He goes to our Church and while everyone is more than happy to help others out, and have helped him, the feeling is if he refuses to work he needs to deal with the consequences. But we want to ensure we are reaching out and helping him find work he can do.

We have done this before, but now that his house is in the final stages of foreclosure/getting kicked out this is "show time" and he needs to look at every option. Whether he has a job to get a basic apartment is on him. If he is refusing to chase work he can do it changes the dynamic of how we feel we should help him.
 
Freelance on the internet? Is the wife not able to work?

I think once June rolls around some of those less desirable options will seem sexier.
 
Has he tried using a lawyer to get on disability? Some/most don't charge upfront and I think the fee is 25% of any back pay. It really wouldn't help with the June deadline though unless he can borrow money and pay it back if it looks like he can get on disability. He may also need a sympathetic doctor to help his cause.
 
1. Get any job with insurance
2. Immediately go to a doctor about Meniere's and have them schedule a surgery to resolve the issue. He will be deaf in one or both ears.
3. Now will be able to work unimpeded, but will probably use being deaf or partially deaf as an excuse to be a worthless, lazy mooch like he is now since that seems to be his real underlying condition
 
I think once June rolls around some of those less desirable options will seem sexier.

I agree!

Being frank, if that is what it takes--being homeless in June because he was too lazy--then I am OK with it. But by presenting some options now in April he won't be in position to blame others.

We genuinely want to help him to make good choices. And it is much easier to help someone who is working their tail off. But the flip side is if he rebuffs the best help he can get is face real homelessness.

I agree he is immature, but by talking to him now he has one less group of people to blame. He needs to clearly see it isn't employers (who need more skills), the state (which has supported him for years), or his Church (who offered to help find a job) that is the problem. The problem is feeling entitled and refusing to work, even if it is hard.

The difficulty is he has some real health challenges and we want to reach out with realistic options. Telling him to get a roofing job is possibly deadly for someone with vertigo -- putting aside the Anandtech internet snark, that is not a good situation. We do honestly want to help him find work if he is willing.

Is the wife not able to work?
His wife needs to work. He's better off at home with the kids.

She is having a hysterectomy soon due to ingoing (3+ years) of major fibroid bleeding. My wife knows the family better than I do and has known the wife well for 8 years. This has been on going/worsening issue for her; the delay has been they tried to shave them last year. Insurance complicates issues, especially as they want to take the ovaries even though they are healthy w/o cysts (due to the cost of having to possibly go back in down the road). I agree she may need to get a part time job and possibly give up home schooling.

He sounds worthless.
Why would anyone pay him if he has no worth?

Every person has worth. But someone should not be paid for not working. And you should not enable someone who is capable. Unfortunately, he has not made himself very desirable for employers. That is on him.
 
pardon the obvious, what ARE his salary expectations?

That has been an "issue."

He had voiced $50k but was looking ~ $40k.

A basic apartment and basic needs means they could get by at $30k. Not pleasant, but it is a start. I have encouraged one of those $15/hr jobs in Seattle. He doesn't want to do the commute (~ 90 minutes each way during peak traffic)--but come June that may be his only option.
 
1. Get any job with insurance
2. Immediately go to a doctor about Meniere's and have them schedule a surgery to resolve the issue. He will be deaf in one or both ears.
3. Now will be able to work unimpeded, but will probably use being deaf or partially deaf as an excuse to be a worthless, lazy mooch like he is now since that seems to be his real underlying condition

He's not a lazy mooch, you jackass. He had a job. He is looking for a job.
 
That has been an "issue."

He had voiced $50k but was looking ~ $40k.

A basic apartment and basic needs means they could get by at $30k. Not pleasant, but it is a start. I have encouraged one of those $15/hr jobs in Seattle. He doesn't want to do the commute (~ 90 minutes each way during peak traffic)--but come June that may be his only option.

well, good luck to him with that.
 
That has been an "issue."

He had voiced $50k but was looking ~ $40k.

A basic apartment and basic needs means they could get by at $30k. Not pleasant, but it is a start. I have encouraged one of those $15/hr jobs in Seattle. He doesn't want to do the commute (~ 90 minutes each way during peak traffic)--but come June that may be his only option.

Sounds like he'll need two jobs.
 
A basic apartment and basic needs means they could get by at $30k. Not pleasant, but it is a start. I have encouraged one of those $15/hr jobs in Seattle. He doesn't want to do the commute (~ 90 minutes each way during peak traffic)--but come June that may be his only option.

I think perhaps cashier? I've seen them let people who need to sit in chairs\on stools and larger companies tend to have decent insurance. And there are a lot of stores that need them: home improvement, clothes, grocery etc

Maybe do that and free lance on the side?

The receptionist avenue sounds like a good idea too
 
I think perhaps cashier? I've seen them let people who need to sit in chairs\on stools and larger companies tend to have decent insurance. And there are a lot of stores that need them: home improvement, clothes, grocery etc

Maybe do that and free lance on the side?

The receptionist avenue sounds like a good idea too

Thank you for the suggestions, sincerely appreciated. The list I have so far is:

Receptionist
Cashier
Administrative aid / clerk
Entry level book keeper
Entry level help desk
Call center rep
Library aid
Post office clerk

I don't know much about Uber, but I have read that can be serviceable, if not a side job. Any thoughts on this or similar?

A barista (e.g. Star Bucks) is an idea but the hours / pace on his feet probably wouldn't work.
 
I don't know much about Uber, but I have read that can be serviceable, if not a side job. Any thoughts on this or similar?

you're not gonna clear 40-50k and you need to be on top of your shit to make money these days.

OK for people who just need beer money though.
 
Can I Work With Meniere’s Disease? Good luck to your friend.

Even though sedentary work, defined by the SSA as work that requires sitting for up to six hours a day, may eliminate the risk of collapsing due to vertigo,
Meniere’s disease can still make a desk job challenging. Vertigo causes dizziness and confusion; conditions that are not ideal for the need to think and act quickly.
Getting in and out of a chair can be dangerous, and communicating on the phone and with others can be difficult due to impaired hearing.
 
talk to us about the wife (skills, experience, prospects)

Stay at home mom, has homeschooled their 14 year old his entire life. She has not been in the work force since he was born. I don't believe she has a college degree. She is the primary care giver to her mother-in-law (the gentleman's mother) who lives with them, is about 80, and has COPD and is on oxygen 24/7.
 
amazon mechanical turk?

It's probably not enough to get by if only one of them does it, but it's something and he can do it where he's comfortable at home.

It will take greater than zero initiative to take projects though.
 
TL;DR: Could people recommend some job ideas for a 50 year old with no college education, basic art design background, unemployed for a couple years, and limited physical abilities due to vertigo. Comcast help desk hires in the area. Costco checker is too difficult (!); my guess is Star Bucks is too much time on his feet.

Long Version: We have a friend who has some physical issues but needs a job. More accurately he needs to work and it doesn't really matter what.

The challenge is he has some physical issues and very limited skill set.

He has Meniere's disease and high blood pressure. He doesn't qualify for disability but the vertigo does impact his ability to do some jobs (exertion and long hours on his feet exasperate his issues). In general he is a sickly person (in 2016 he has had a couple kidney stones and C Diff. that relapsed) and while not overweight is excessively sedentary and lacks strength or stamina.

He lives 30 miles north of Seattle, is 52, doesn't have a college education, has a wife, a teenage son, his elderly/disabled mother lives with him, and has been unemployed for a couple years. He was previously employed for about 15 years as graphics design artist for a jacket company. My understanding is he allowed his skills to stagnate to a degree while doing stencil style logos and really cannot compete with younger, more talented, more "hungry" (i.e. driven) artists. I tried web design and that didn't go well--he is a person who needs direction and oversight as he isn't very organized or self motivated enough for independent work. He lacks self confidence and struggles with major depression.

He loses his house in June and will be on the street (literally) unless he finds work.

He has been looking and working with a recruiter as well as a state job counselor. He is in all the programs, even the one that offers to pay employers to take on employees who have been out of work for long periods.

He is not a desirable candidate for the jobs he wants or the pay range he feels entitled to.

As you can tell the frank reality is he needs to suck it up and get a job--or two.

I am understanding of his real physical challenges, like Meniere's which isn't fun (I had SCDS and can vouch vertigo and audio/balance disturbances are difficult to deal with), but the reality is he needs to work. Now. And stop making excuses. Because if he takes his present course of expecting others to

Just telling him that doesn't work -- maybe nothing will.

But a number of his friends, mainly out of concern for his wife/son/mother, want to present some job ideas he cannot dismiss out of hand due to health. He goes to our Church and while everyone is more than happy to help others out, and have helped him, the feeling is if he refuses to work he needs to deal with the consequences. But we want to ensure we are reaching out and helping him find work he can do.

We have done this before, but now that his house is in the final stages of foreclosure/getting kicked out this is "show time" and he needs to look at every option. Whether he has a job to get a basic apartment is on him. If he is refusing to chase work he can do it changes the dynamic of how we feel we should help him.

Sounds like he is not addressing depression issues. Aside from that, drop him off at the local homeless encampment and let him eat out of dumpsters until he learns his lesson BEFORE he loses his house.

Or some people are just content to wander the earth. Who's to judge?
 
I hate to say it, but I think SSDI/SSI are his best options at this point. I just don't see how someone like that will be able to hold down a steady job with such an unpredictable condition. I understand that it's not a lot of money, but he will have housing options at that point along with medical insurance and various other forms of assistance. Feel free to PM me about it if you have any questions, I have quite a bit of experience with that process.
 
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Stay at home mom, has homeschooled their 14 year old his entire life. She has not been in the work force since he was born. I don't believe she has a college degree. She is the primary care giver to her mother-in-law (the gentleman's mother) who lives with them, is about 80, and has COPD and is on oxygen 24/7.

If your church can't be persuaded to help him how about persuading them to help his wife?
 
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