Job as a Computer Technician

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[xchangx]

Originally posted by: violator

Originally posted by: ric1287
college courses in HS are nothing like the actual college. BADM is business administration, if you cant make it through most of a buisness's degrees curriculum then i dunno what to tell you.

if you are set in what you want to do, why ask for advice?

I need to know what certifications I should get.
I need to know what certifications I can get and if they have prerequisites.
I need to know what I can do with the certifications.
I need to know the difficulty of obtaining each certification.
I need to know how much people are paid with jobs based on the certifications.

The college course is just to prepare me, since I don't know where else to learn from as I asked that and no one told me.

The college course is there so I have formal education with the certifications.


By the way, I used to be in university level but the jobs that were available weren't interesting to me. I wasn't failing, but I had below average and average marks in the more logical classes.

When I said a computer technician, I didn't mean a Nerds on Site type of job as a career. Perhaps I mislabeled the job title, as I am unsure. For example the technician at my school makes about as much as a teacher, and he is in charge of the computers and networking used in the school. I want to work up to a job in a social institute such as that.

Here's the thing, certifications are worthless. Employers know that it doesn't take much to get one. They want experience. That's why everyone is saying to get a helpdesk job and learn your way up.

I know several people that went through technical school and graduated, but they don't have the slightest clue on anything.

You need to think in the future. Suppose you get your associates degree and get a job at a school. If you ever want to move up, it's going to be hard because you have no business training or any other formal training. Sure you can get a job making $30k - 40k, but what about 10 years from now.

Go to a 4 year university and get a CS, MIS, or business degree.

 

[xchangx]

Originally posted by: violator

Originally posted by: ric1287
college courses in HS are nothing like the actual college. BADM is business administration, if you cant make it through most of a buisness's degrees curriculum then i dunno what to tell you.

if you are set in what you want to do, why ask for advice?

I need to know what certifications I should get.
A+, Network +, MCSA, MCSE, CCNA, etc.

I need to know what certifications I can get and if they have prerequisites.
See above, no prerequisites, just money

I need to know what I can do with the certifications.
Entry level job/Geek Squad/Helpdesk

I need to know the difficulty of obtaining each certification.
Depends on how much you know and understand. A+ is easy, most of the MCSE is easy, not sure about the CCNA.

I need to know how much people are paid with jobs based on the certifications.
A+ - $8-$10/hr
CCNA/MCSE - $13-16/hr
At least where I am, cost of living is low here.

The college course is just to prepare me, since I don't know where else to learn from as I asked that and no one told me.

The college course is there so I have formal education with the certifications.


By the way, I used to be in university level but the jobs that were available weren't interesting to me. I wasn't failing, but I had below average and average marks in the more logical classes.

When I said a computer technician, I didn't mean a Nerds on Site type of job as a career. Perhaps I mislabeled the job title, as I am unsure. For example the technician at my school makes about as much as a teacher, and he is in charge of the computers and networking used in the school. I want to work up to a job in a social institute such as that.

 

[violator]

Originally posted by: xchangx

Originally posted by: violator

Originally posted by: ric1287
college courses in HS are nothing like the actual college. BADM is business administration, if you cant make it through most of a buisness's degrees curriculum then i dunno what to tell you.

if you are set in what you want to do, why ask for advice?

I need to know what certifications I should get.
A+, Network +, MCSA, MCSE, CCNA, etc.

I need to know what certifications I can get and if they have prerequisites.
See above, no prerequisites, just money

I need to know what I can do with the certifications.
Entry level job/Geek Squad/Helpdesk

I need to know the difficulty of obtaining each certification.
Depends on how much you know and understand. A+ is easy, most of the MCSE is easy, not sure about the CCNA.

I need to know how much people are paid with jobs based on the certifications.
A+ - $8-$10/hr
CCNA/MCSE - $13-16/hr
At least where I am, cost of living is low here.

The college course is just to prepare me, since I don't know where else to learn from as I asked that and no one told me.

The college course is there so I have formal education with the certifications.


By the way, I used to be in university level but the jobs that were available weren't interesting to me. I wasn't failing, but I had below average and average marks in the more logical classes.

When I said a computer technician, I didn't mean a Nerds on Site type of job as a career. Perhaps I mislabeled the job title, as I am unsure. For example the technician at my school makes about as much as a teacher, and he is in charge of the computers and networking used in the school. I want to work up to a job in a social institute such as that.

What about MCP and CISCO certifications? That is what I would be getting.

 

[intogamer]

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
where do you live

I second that. IT might not even be useful depending on area.

You can repair home computers and bill X amount. Build relationships with small businesses etc. Some network support here and there.

Theres a few PC repair shops in Boston. computerepairboston charges $85hr+ and I'm certain that the guy is doing good.

Edit: plus the guy is doing it without a shop.

I might consider doing it as I am still in HS. I say the my area is good but I still need to research.

Research is key. Also everybody bashes about a Business Degree because you can only go higher, you can max out by being a millionaire CEO. As for IT... corporate owns you. Amirite?

Edit: You don't have to go to a university. Go to state college then further you're self with a Masters or MBA. So you're credits can work out?

I hear that if you plan to get a MBA as it doesn't really matter as much, where you get your bachelors degree.

But its up to you as you say University is going to be difficult.

 

[violator]

Originally posted by: intogamer

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
where do you live

I second that. IT might not even be useful depending on area.

You can repair home computers and bill X amount. Build relationships with small businesses etc. Some network support here and there.

Theres a few PC repair shops in Boston. computerepairboston charges $85hr+ and I'm certain that the guy is doing good.

Edit: plus the guy is doing it without a shop.

I might consider doing it as I am still in HS. I say the my area is good but I still need to research.

Research is key. Also everybody bashes about a Business Degree because you can only go higher, you can max out by being a millionaire CEO. As for IT... corporate owns you. Amirite?

Edit: You don't have to go to a university. Go to state college then further you're self with a Masters or MBA. So you're credits can work out?

I hear that if you plan to get a MBA as it doesn't really matter as much, where you get your bachelors degree.

But its up to you as you say University is going to be difficult.

If I have great difficulty financially as a computer technician I may go back to schooling as a mature student. I'm not talking about just home repairs for clients, I am talking about being in charge of computers for a social institute hopefully after an amount of experience and time.

But, what about MCP and CISCO certifications? They weren't mentioned and that is what I would be getting.

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: violator

Originally posted by: intogamer

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
where do you live

I second that. IT might not even be useful depending on area.

You can repair home computers and bill X amount. Build relationships with small businesses etc. Some network support here and there.

Theres a few PC repair shops in Boston. computerepairboston charges $85hr+ and I'm certain that the guy is doing good.

Edit: plus the guy is doing it without a shop.

I might consider doing it as I am still in HS. I say the my area is good but I still need to research.

Research is key. Also everybody bashes about a Business Degree because you can only go higher, you can max out by being a millionaire CEO. As for IT... corporate owns you. Amirite?

Edit: You don't have to go to a university. Go to state college then further you're self with a Masters or MBA. So you're credits can work out?

I hear that if you plan to get a MBA as it doesn't really matter as much, where you get your bachelors degree.

But its up to you as you say University is going to be difficult.

If I have great difficulty financially as a computer technician I may go back to schooling. I'm not talking about just home repairs for clients, I am talking about being in charge of computers for a social institute hopefully after an amount of experience and time.

But, what about MCP and CISCO certifications? They weren't mentioned and that is what I would be getting.

we talked about it 893478945 times lumped into all the other certifications you listed. nice to have but worthless without experience.

 

[violator]

Perhaps I should be an electrician instead.....

The college offers that, my uncle took it and he seems to be well off...

 

[JackRipper]

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
So do you want to be a network admin or just repair servers and such all day long? I don't think you are coining the word "technician" very well.

maybe thats how canadians call it

 

[JackRipper]

Originally posted by: violator
Perhaps I should be an electrician instead.....

The college offers that, my uncle took it and he seems to be well off...

u should seek ur local education counselor and speak with the department that you want to get into...

between a pc tech and electrician... i really think u don't know what u want to do in life yet (not in a bad sense... just that they are broad differences in the field and it looks like ur just randomly choosing w/o know anything about either field)

 

[violator]

Originally posted by: JackRipper

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
So do you want to be a network admin or just repair servers and such all day long? I don't think you are coining the word "technician" very well.

maybe thats how canadians call it

The course is called Electronics Engineering Technician - Computers

Description:

"Utilizing your technical skills, this training will enhance your ability to provide technical solutions and support to local and wide area networks. You will be able to work with a complete range of active data; install, interconnect, configure, implement, and troubleshoot network systems, create and maintain documentation, and be proficient with all aspects of the modern day network solution. Your opportunity to pursue the Microsoft Certified Professional and CISCO certification will open many doors for you in an ?in-demand? profession."

 

[violator]

Originally posted by: JackRipper

Originally posted by: violator
Perhaps I should be an electrician instead.....

The college offers that, my uncle took it and he seems to be well off...

u should seek ur local education counselor and speak with the department that you want to get into...

between a pc tech and electrician... i really think u don't know what u want to do in life yet (not in a bad sense... just that they are broad differences in the field and it looks like ur just randomly choosing w/o know anything about either field)

Well I enjoy computers and seriously considered the job I described until I posted here asking questions.

Electrician was just a secondary option, in case this one failed, because it is the only trades job that isn't too physically demanding and it pays well. I only considered it because my uncle and my grandfather did it for a living.

 

[wetcat007]

If you want to be a computer technician get it as a part time job while you goto college. The pay is too low to ever consider it as a career though. Electrician would pay a lot lot more than being a computer tech. If you know a bit about computers you're most likely already qualified for fixing computers.

 

[Ns1]

if your only motive for finding a career is money, you are going to want to kill yourself very quickly.

find something you WANT to do and then do it.

 

[violator]

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
if your only motive for finding a career is money, you are going to want to kill yourself very quickly.

find something you WANT to do and then do it.

I wouldn't mind doing either for a living but at the same time I don't want to have financial troubles. I just thought of a computer tech as a primary because I already know a fair amount about computers, and don't know much about electrical work.

Is what I copy and pasted from the site the lowly position that you think it is though? It doesn't really sound like a Nerds on Site future, but I could be wrong.

 

[wetcat007]

Originally posted by: violator

Originally posted by: ric1287
ok...what is your idea of college? Community college AA degree != 4 year decent school degree.

-Go to real school, work helpdesk throughout.
-Get your degree in IS or CS or BADM
-become IT director somewhere (guy who makes entirely too much money for what his job entails)

Yes, but I don't think I am capable of computer science and programming for long periods of time drives me insane. I don't want to program for a career.

I have no idea what BADM stands for.

And, I don't want to get a job that I will hate just for the money. I want a job that I can tolerate, am confident in myself, and ideally be middle class or upper end of working class.

I cannot go to university because I am taking all college courses in high school at the moment. And I would not enjoy myself, would struggle, and feel out of place if I went into university level.

There are careers in the local college that make more than some university careers.




EDIT: Could you respond on this please?

"OK, I am thinking of doing this:

- Going for the college degree
- Getting a starter job
- Getting as many worthwhile certifications as I can while working at the starter job
- Moving up as I obtain better certification and more experience

Is this a good plan? Also, what would you say the difficulty of obtaining the worthwhile certifications is? And I really need to know if these certifications have prerequisites."

You could do MIS. CIS would be a possibility too but that still involves a lot of programming at most schools.

In all honesty a degree in anything is better than no degree at all, it's sometimes a necessity to be hired for higher paying jobs at a lot of companies

 

[violator]

Originally posted by: wetcat007

Originally posted by: violator

Originally posted by: ric1287
ok...what is your idea of college? Community college AA degree != 4 year decent school degree.

-Go to real school, work helpdesk throughout.
-Get your degree in IS or CS or BADM
-become IT director somewhere (guy who makes entirely too much money for what his job entails)

Yes, but I don't think I am capable of computer science and programming for long periods of time drives me insane. I don't want to program for a career.

I have no idea what BADM stands for.

And, I don't want to get a job that I will hate just for the money. I want a job that I can tolerate, am confident in myself, and ideally be middle class or upper end of working class.

I cannot go to university because I am taking all college courses in high school at the moment. And I would not enjoy myself, would struggle, and feel out of place if I went into university level.

There are careers in the local college that make more than some university careers.




EDIT: Could you respond on this please?

"OK, I am thinking of doing this:

- Going for the college degree
- Getting a starter job
- Getting as many worthwhile certifications as I can while working at the starter job
- Moving up as I obtain better certification and more experience

Is this a good plan? Also, what would you say the difficulty of obtaining the worthwhile certifications is? And I really need to know if these certifications have prerequisites."

You could do MIS. CIS would be a possibility too but that still involves a lot of programming at most schools.

In all honesty a degree in anything is better than no degree at all, it's sometimes a necessity to be hired for higher paying jobs at a lot of companies

Could you respond to my previous post though? What I'm getting into might not even be the lowly computer technician job you are thinking of, but it could be.

Here:

"The course is called Electronics Engineering Technician - Computers

Description:

"Utilizing your technical skills, this training will enhance your ability to provide technical solutions and support to local and wide area networks. You will be able to work with a complete range of active data; install, interconnect, configure, implement, and troubleshoot network systems, create and maintain documentation, and be proficient with all aspects of the modern day network solution. Your opportunity to pursue the Microsoft Certified Professional and CISCO certification will open many doors for you in an ?in-demand? profession.""

 

[Homerboy]

wow OP is in serious trouble just based off hhis "Ability" in this thread alone

 

[violator]

Originally posted by: Homerboy
wow OP is in serious trouble just based off hhis "Ability" in this thread alone

What do you mean by that?

 

[Linux23]

Originally posted by: Homerboy
wow OP is in serious trouble just based off hhis "Ability" in this thread alone

scary huh?

:Q

 

[violator]

Originally posted by: Linux23

Originally posted by: Homerboy
wow OP is in serious trouble just based off hhis "Ability" in this thread alone

scary huh?

:Q

Is this sarcasm or am I missing out on something here...

And could someone please respond to that previous quote I had from the college website? I need to know if that will even result in a lowly computer technician job, like Geek Squad, or if it is something else.

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: violator

Originally posted by: Linux23

Originally posted by: Homerboy
wow OP is in serious trouble just based off hhis "Ability" in this thread alone

scary huh?

:Q

Is this sarcasm or am I missing out on something here...

And could someone please respond to that previous quote I had from the college website? I need to know if that will even result in a lowly computer technician job, like Geek Squad, or if it is something else.

it'll probably be 1up from geeksquad, but you're not gonna go anywhere without experience.

 

[violator]

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis

Originally posted by: violator

Originally posted by: Linux23

Originally posted by: Homerboy
wow OP is in serious trouble just based off hhis "Ability" in this thread alone

scary huh?

:Q

Is this sarcasm or am I missing out on something here...

And could someone please respond to that previous quote I had from the college website? I need to know if that will even result in a lowly computer technician job, like Geek Squad, or if it is something else.

it'll probably be 1up from geeksquad, but you're not gonna go anywhere without experience.

If I start out with a lowly position for a while, could I eventually move up to a higher paying job as I gain more experience? I'm not worried about starting out with a low paying job, I just don't want to remain in one.

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: violator

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis

Originally posted by: violator

Originally posted by: Linux23

Originally posted by: Homerboy
wow OP is in serious trouble just based off hhis "Ability" in this thread alone

scary huh?

:Q

Is this sarcasm or am I missing out on something here...

And could someone please respond to that previous quote I had from the college website? I need to know if that will even result in a lowly computer technician job, like Geek Squad, or if it is something else.

it'll probably be 1up from geeksquad, but you're not gonna go anywhere without experience.

If I start out with a lowly position for a while, could I eventually move up to a higher paying job as I gain more experience? I'm not worried about starting out with a low paying job, I just don't want to remain in one.

yes

that being said, you could do the same without going to school.

 

[violator]

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis

Originally posted by: violator

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis

Originally posted by: violator

Originally posted by: Linux23

Originally posted by: Homerboy
wow OP is in serious trouble just based off hhis "Ability" in this thread alone

scary huh?

:Q

Is this sarcasm or am I missing out on something here...

And could someone please respond to that previous quote I had from the college website? I need to know if that will even result in a lowly computer technician job, like Geek Squad, or if it is something else.

it'll probably be 1up from geeksquad, but you're not gonna go anywhere without experience.

If I start out with a lowly position for a while, could I eventually move up to a higher paying job as I gain more experience? I'm not worried about starting out with a low paying job, I just don't want to remain in one.

yes

that being said, you could do the same without going to school.

So I will be alright financially?

I just want to make clear, I don't expect a high paying job right away, I just don't want financial troubles and a low paying job for the rest of my life. I understand that experience is needed for higher paying jobs and have no problem having low pay one to start.