Job apps no longer have white or black listed as a race.

[Ktulu]

Originally posted by: her209
They forgot one.

MEXICAN

haha, yeah, Mexican itself is a race, as well as Chinese.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: leftyman

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: leftyman
I didnt think they were allowed to ask that on an application?

why not?

on a job application? discrimination.

ummm, no.

It is not allowed on Canadian job applications for that very reason.

So why do you say it cannot contribute to discrimination, because I can very easily see the reasoning in why to leave it off.

 

[leftyman]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: leftyman

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: leftyman
I didnt think they were allowed to ask that on an application?

why not?

on a job application? discrimination.

ummm, no.

not allowed in New York Text

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: leftyman

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: leftyman
I didnt think they were allowed to ask that on an application?

why not?

on a job application? discrimination.

ummm, no.

It is not allowed on Canadian job applications for that very reason.

So why do you say it cannot contribute to discrimination, because I can very easily see the reasoning in why to leave it off.

In the US they're allowed to ask it, they're just not allowed to consider it. Sounds silly, yes, but leaving it off the application isn't going to do much good since people are rarely hired without a face to face interview. They ask it so that if they're accused of discrimination they can show that X% of their hires are of a particular race or whatever.

 

[leftyman]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: leftyman

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: leftyman
I didnt think they were allowed to ask that on an application?

why not?

on a job application? discrimination.

ummm, no.

It is not allowed on Canadian job applications for that very reason.

So why do you say it cannot contribute to discrimination, because I can very easily see the reasoning in why to leave it off.

In the US they're allowed to ask it, they're just not allowed to consider it. Sounds silly, yes, but leaving it off the application isn't going to do much good since people are rarely hired without a face to face interview. They ask it so that if they're accused of discrimination they can show that X% of their hires are of a particular race or whatever.

not in New York Text

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: leftyman

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: leftyman
I didnt think they were allowed to ask that on an application?

why not?

on a job application? discrimination.

ummm, no.

It is not allowed on Canadian job applications for that very reason.

So why do you say it cannot contribute to discrimination, because I can very easily see the reasoning in why to leave it off.

In the US they're allowed to ask it, they're just not allowed to consider it. Sounds silly, yes, but leaving it off the application isn't going to do much good since people are rarely hired without a face to face interview. They ask it so that if they're accused of discrimination they can show that X% of their hires are of a particular race or whatever.

Ah, while I can see that making sense (lawsuit wise). It would seem easier to have them fill our an employee form after they are hired that includes the race question so they cannot be accused of discrimination during the hiring process.

 

[fire400]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: leftyman

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: leftyman
I didnt think they were allowed to ask that on an application?

why not?

on a job application? discrimination.

ummm, no.

It is not allowed on Canadian job applications for that very reason.

So why do you say it cannot contribute to discrimination, because I can very easily see the reasoning in why to leave it off.

In the US they're allowed to ask it, they're just not allowed to consider it. Sounds silly, yes, but leaving it off the application isn't going to do much good since people are rarely hired without a face to face interview. They ask it so that if they're accused of discrimination they can show that X% of their hires are of a particular race or whatever.

Ah, while I can see that making sense (lawsuit wise). It would seem easier to have them fill our an employee form after they are hired that includes the race question so they cannot be accused of discrimination during the hiring process.

keep in mind this is usually for entry level working. if you want a higher paying position, hard work and commitment to your job speaks louder.

but I'm going to have to agree. these are the aftermath days of MLK junior, who fought for freedom of colored people, and not to mention the other races. of course we're going to see indirect discrimination, regardless if you're white or black. but if you've noticed, you can be a miniority anywhere at any time or place. it's all about perception and how much you know.

if you'd ask me, it's realization, inspiration and hard work that will get you past those levels of people being so close-minded that they are willing to go out of their way to prove something so utterly pointless. self-righteous people are sometimes seen as racist and disrespectful.

it's how you classify others and how much you are willing to see someone as a human being, rather than a pineapple or an orange who can't hang out with the vegetables because they have more sugar in their blood from the food group. what if a chair or dish soap want to sit with you? are you going to tell them to get out of your comfort zone because they're not in the food group? likewise with immigrants and how we see and understand why people do the things they do.

if you want to get far, be professional yourself. secretary of defense during the gulf war, he worked hard. he said: I'm black, so what. if it's their problem. it's theirs, not mines. I'm here to work hard - in summary of what he said. advanced ranks like lighting speed.

"you tell someone to grow up if they're acting like a kid."

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: fire400

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: leftyman

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: leftyman
I didnt think they were allowed to ask that on an application?

why not?

on a job application? discrimination.

ummm, no.

It is not allowed on Canadian job applications for that very reason.

So why do you say it cannot contribute to discrimination, because I can very easily see the reasoning in why to leave it off.

In the US they're allowed to ask it, they're just not allowed to consider it. Sounds silly, yes, but leaving it off the application isn't going to do much good since people are rarely hired without a face to face interview. They ask it so that if they're accused of discrimination they can show that X% of their hires are of a particular race or whatever.

Ah, while I can see that making sense (lawsuit wise). It would seem easier to have them fill our an employee form after they are hired that includes the race question so they cannot be accused of discrimination during the hiring process.

keep in mind this is usually for entry level working. if you want a higher paying position, hard work and commitment to your job speaks louder.
but I'm going to have to agree. these are the aftermath days of MLK junior, who fought for freedom of colored people, and not to mention the other races. of course we're going to see indirect discrimination, regardless if you're white or black. but if you've noticed, you can be a miniority anywhere at any time or place. it's all about perception and how much you know.

if you'd ask me, it's realization, inspiration and hard work that will get you past those levels of people being so close-minded that they are willing to go out of their way to prove something so utterly pointless. self-righteous people are sometimes seen as racist and disrespectful.

it's how you classify others and how much you are willing to see someone as a human being, rather than a pineapple or an orange who can't hang out with the vegetables because they have more sugar in their blood from the food group. what if a chair or dish soap want to sit with you? are you going to tell them to get out of your comfort zone because they're not in the food group? likewise with immigrants and how we see and understand why people do the things they do.

if you want to get far, be professional yourself. secretary of defense during the gulf war, he worked hard. he said: I'm black, so what. if it's their problem. it's theirs, not mines. I'm here to work hard - in summary of what he said. advanced ranks like lighting speed.

"you tell someone to grow up if they're acting like a kid."

not true. 8 years ago when i had done all the interviews and testing for my position and got hired. the first day on the job, HR made me fill out a job application to put in my records.

 

[Howard]

White and black aren't even races. Why don't they just ask for skin color?

 

[ElFenix]

what if i'm asian hispanic?

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Ah, while I can see that making sense (lawsuit wise). It would seem easier to have them fill our an employee form after they are hired that includes the race question so they cannot be accused of discrimination during the hiring process.

no, it wouldn't. if they don't have any blacks, they could be sued for racial discrimination, but if it turns out that only 1 black guy applied and 1000 white guys did, then statistically they're not being racist.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: RichardE

Ah, while I can see that making sense (lawsuit wise). It would seem easier to have them fill our an employee form after they are hired that includes the race question so they cannot be accused of discrimination during the hiring process.

no, it wouldn't. if they don't have any blacks, they could be sued for racial discrimination, but if it turns out that only 1 black guy applied and 1000 white guys did, then statistically they're not being racist.

On the same turn, if 400 people applies, 300 blacks and 100 whites, but 50 of the most qualified people were white and they were the only ones who got an interview, than they could be hit up for being racist.