Jimmy Carter's letter to Zell Miller

[Todd33]

Is there no thread that heartsurgeon can't get off topic and take a swipe at a Dem at the same time?

forget the Rabbit, who choked and passed out eating a pretzel?

 

[Darkhawk28]

Who puked in Japan?

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: alchemize

I don't believe this warrants your referring to me as a pacifist.

Ok, how about a wimp? A coward? A sissy? Even a rat will fight when cornered, correct?

What the hell are you talking about?

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: alchemize

I don't believe this warrants your referring to me as a pacifist.

Ok, how about a wimp? A coward? A sissy? Even a rat will fight when cornered, correct?

What the hell are you talking about?

Just a little quote from Carter's letter to Zell

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: Todd33
Is there no thread that heartsurgeon can't get off topic and take a swipe at a Dem at the same time?

You must be new here.

forget the Rabbit, who choked and passed out eating a pretzel?

He misunderestimated it.

 

[Thump553]

When's the duel against Carter?

Personally I think Carter treated Miller with way too much respect. The man needs medical help-he is obviously going through some sort of breakdown.

 

[NesuD]

I, myself, served in the Navy from 1942 to 1953, and, as president, greatly strengthened our military forces and protected our nation and its interests in every way.

If Carter really wrote that then he is either a bald faced liar or the Alzheimers has kicked in. His actions as president concerning our national security and our military were pathetic. It is well known that Carter made huge cuts in military spending during his term. When he left office the state of our military was at its lowest point since WW2.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: Thump553
When's the duel against Carter?

Personally I think Carter treated Miller with way too much respect. The man needs medical help-he is obviously going through some sort of breakdown.

It's not a breakdown, it's Alzheimers.

 

[Insane3D]

I posted this in the other Zell thread...from his 2001 speech...

My job tonight is an easy one: to present to you one of this nation's authentic heroes, one of this party's best-known and greatest leaders - and a good friend.

He was once a lieutenant governor - but he didn't stay in that office 16 years, like someone else I know. It just took two years before the people of Massachusetts moved him into the United States Senate in 1984.

In his 16 years in the Senate, John Kerry has fought against government waste and worked hard to bring some accountability to Washington.

Early in his Senate career in 1986, John signed on to the Gramm-Rudman-Hollings Deficit Reduction Bill, and he fought for balanced budgets before it was considered politically correct for Democrats to do so.

John has worked to strengthen our military, reform public education, boost the economy and protect the environment. Business Week magazine named him one of the top pro-technology legislators and made him a member of its "Digital Dozen."

John was re-elected in 1990 and again in 1996 - when he defeated popular Republican Governor William Weld in the most closely watched Senate race in the country.

John is a graduate of Yale University and was a gunboat officer in the Navy. He received a Silver Star, Bronze Star and three awards of the Purple Heart for combat duty in Vietnam. He later co-founded the Vietnam Veterans of America.

He is married to Teresa Heinz and they have two daughters.

As many of you know, I have great affection - some might say an obsession - for my two Labrador retrievers, Gus and Woodrow. It turns out John is a fellow dog lover, too, and he better be. His German Shepherd, Kim, is about to have puppies. And I just want him to know ... Gus and Woodrow had nothing to do with that.

Ladies and Gentlemen, please welcome Senator John Kerry.

- Zell Miller, introducing John Kerry, Introduction of Senator John Kerry at the Democratic Party of Georgia's Jefferson-Jackson Dinner, March 1, 2001

So....which is it? John Kerry must have eaten quite a few babies or something in the last three years to make his "good friend" speak of him so huh?

:roll:

 

[LordMagnusKain]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
No man should put party loyalty or any other loyalty above truth.

yep.

 

[geecee]

Jimmy Carter has always been a good man with a big heart and only the best of intentions. Probably why he was a lousy president and a so-so politician. Is it a compliment to be called "not much of a politician"?

EDIT: Despite his military spending record, the Camp David accords did happen under his watch - something pretty unthinkable at the time. If anyone could get something like that to happen in the Middle East today, they would have my vote for sure. Do I believe either candidate has the ability or the resolve? Sadly, no.

 

[piasabird]

Why would anyone ever even consider Carter to be a reputable source? Wasn't he one of the worst presidents ever?

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: piasabird
Why would anyone ever even consider Carter to be a reputable source? Wasn't he one of the worst presidents ever?

Depends how you look at it. He inherited a terrible economy, and definitely didn't inspire a lot of confidence in Americans, although he is by any measure a very bright guy. On the other hand, there was robust job creation under Carter, and he did later win the Nobel Peace Prize. I don't think there's a lot of question he is among America's greatest living statesmen, even if he wasn't one of our greatest presidents.

 

[KarenMarie]

Originally posted by: piasabird
Why would anyone ever even consider Carter to be a reputable source? Wasn't he one of the worst presidents ever?

Absolutely! rationed gas ...gas lines that went around the block. Disproportionate raising food and energy prices. The worker strikes. unsuccessful foreign policy.

Automobile prices increased 72% between 1973 and 1979. New house prices went up 67%. In 1979, gas prices increased 60%. The inflation rate went from 6.8% in 1977 to 7.6 % in 1978 to 11.5% in 12.4% in 1980. Interest rates went to 20%. Unemployment rates were 7.5%

Besides the horrible economy, the country was in a miserable state of mind. Our Country was more divided then it is today. There was no national pride at all. People were angry and bitter. We did not feel secure about anything. Not our jobs, or our salaries, nor did we feel safe militarily.

The late 70's was not a good time in this country. There was a high misery index and low feel good factor hanging over this country.

Dunno... I kinda think that Carter would be smart to keep quiet, lay low and ride the humanitarian thing.

 

[classy]

Ouch, now thats a scathing reprimand. From a former president at that.

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: piasabird
Why would anyone ever even consider Carter to be a reputable source? Wasn't he one of the worst presidents ever?

I don't know about "one of the worst." I think we agree GWB is THE worst. Polls on P&N agreed too.

 

[burnedout]

Dunno... I kinda think that Carter would be smart to keep quiet, lay low and ride the humanitarian thing.

Please allow me to add a few more items to your list:

* Additon of a new word to the English language - "Stagflation"

* Burt Lance

* Alcoholic brother, Billy, accepted payments from Libyans for shady deals.

* 1980: The only time the USA ever missed participating in a regularly-scheduled, modern Olympics competition since inception in 1896. Carter stated that we boycotted the games because of the Dec '79 Soviet invasion of Afghanistan

* 1979: Covert operations run by the CIA in Afghanistan at least 6 months prior to the Soviets invasion. According to documents in the Cold War archives at GWU, the US sponsored-ops provoked the Soviets to the point of intervention. Additonal confirmation available from former CIA director Robert Gates (currently president of TAMU) and former NSA Zbigniew Brzezinski.

* Desert One

* 21.5% Prime Lending Rate, '78 or '79 (can't remember exactly)

* 1977: Coining of the term "hollow army", by former U.S. Army Chief of Staff General Edward C. Meyer.

If I had more time, I'd gladly author an entire page of outstanding Carter accomplishments.

 

[classy]

Originally posted by: KK

To Sen. Zell Miller:


Great Georgia Democrats who served in the past, including Walter George, Richard Russell, Herman Talmadge and Sam Nunn, disagreed strongly with the policies of Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman, John Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson and me, but they remained loyal to the party in which they gained their public office. Other Democrats, because of philosophical differences or the race issue, like Bo Callaway and Strom Thurmond, at least had the decency to become Republicans.


Sincerely, and with deepest regrets,

Jimmy Carter

That paragraph says it all.