Jim DeMint on slavery

[Jaepheth]

It always amazes me just how many people forget that "All men are created equal" is part of the Declaration of Independence, NOT the Constitution.

 

[Pr0d1gy]

After the Civil War, much litigation and assassination was used in order to litigate us all into slavery. If they could not subjugate one race, then they would just subjugate all of us through debt.

I do find it rather hilarious all the talking heads in here who always come down on the same side of history as our thought control approved textbooks, though. I bet you all still believe womens' rights was about giving women equal rights, huh? Naïve little system dependent suckers.

I mean, for the love of humanity, please read some dissenting views at some point in your lives. You all sounds like an echo chamber, just having a big circle jerk about how smart you are and how correct your party is. It's a fucking joke.

Since the Civil War was lost, we have had 4 President assassinated, several more have had close calls, they established the Federal Reserve after having the Titanic sunk to murder the people who opposed the Fed and could stop it. Yeah, seriously, did you know that JP Morgan was a no show at the last minute for his trip on the Titanic? Just like Larry "Pull it" Silverstein was a no show for his breakfast at the WTC the morning of 9/11? Yeah, this is a common theme in all these tragedies.

And no, it isn't coincidence.

 

[SlowSpyder]

I guess he won't mention how the bible was actually used to defend slavery, either.

 

[1prophet]

Since the Civil War was lost, we have had 4 President assassinated, several more have had close calls, they established the Federal Reserve after having the Titanic sunk to murder the people who opposed the Fed and could stop it. Yeah, seriously, did you know that JP Morgan was a no show at the last minute for his trip on the Titanic? Just like Larry "Pull it" Silverstein was a no show for his breakfast at the WTC the morning of 9/11? Yeah, this is a common theme in all these tragedies.

And no, it isn't coincidence.

Who exactly do you believe lost the Civil War?

 

[MrPickins]

Your natural condition is slavery if you cant be freed without force being initiated. "Freedom" gained through initiation of aggression is artificial freedom.

Tell that to these guys:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_Congress

 

[Jhhnn]

America was the only one to end Slavery with blood, were we not?

As for his commentary, clearly the Civil War proves that line wrong. That the Feds DID end slavery. Rest of his commentary is accurate, you just harp on and attack a snippet which does not fit. I'd ask the Senator to explain himself. We might even agree on that.

Fools rush in, huh?

 

[First]

After the Civil War, much litigation and assassination was used in order to litigate us all into slavery. If they could not subjugate one race, then they would just subjugate all of us through debt.

I do find it rather hilarious all the talking heads in here who always come down on the same side of history as our thought control approved textbooks, though. I bet you all still believe womens' rights was about giving women equal rights, huh? Naïve little system dependent suckers.

I mean, for the love of humanity, please read some dissenting views at some point in your lives. You all sounds like an echo chamber, just having a big circle jerk about how smart you are and how correct your party is. It's a fucking joke.

Since the Civil War was lost, we have had 4 President assassinated, several more have had close calls, they established the Federal Reserve after having the Titanic sunk to murder the people who opposed the Fed and could stop it. Yeah, seriously, did you know that JP Morgan was a no show at the last minute for his trip on the Titanic? Just like Larry "Pull it" Silverstein was a no show for his breakfast at the WTC the morning of 9/11? Yeah, this is a common theme in all these tragedies.

And no, it isn't coincidence.

lol, I can't tell if this troll is serious or not.

 

[ivwshane]

After the Civil War, much litigation and assassination was used in order to litigate us all into slavery. If they could not subjugate one race, then they would just subjugate all of us through debt.

I do find it rather hilarious all the talking heads in here who always come down on the same side of history as our thought control approved textbooks, though. I bet you all still believe womens' rights was about giving women equal rights, huh? Naïve little system dependent suckers.

I mean, for the love of humanity, please read some dissenting views at some point in your lives. You all sounds like an echo chamber, just having a big circle jerk about how smart you are and how correct your party is. It's a fucking joke.

Since the Civil War was lost, we have had 4 President assassinated, several more have had close calls, they established the Federal Reserve after having the Titanic sunk to murder the people who opposed the Fed and could stop it. Yeah, seriously, did you know that JP Morgan was a no show at the last minute for his trip on the Titanic? Just like Larry "Pull it" Silverstein was a no show for his breakfast at the WTC the morning of 9/11? Yeah, this is a common theme in all these tragedies.

And no, it isn't coincidence.

Whoa!!

 

[RabidMongoose]

This is disgusting. Why are so many conservatives basically slavery apologists?

 

[Bitek]

lol, I can't tell if this troll is serious or not.

"I see your crazy Demint, and I raise you batshit. Call it!"

 

[cyclohexane]

This is disgusting. Why are so many conservatives basically slavery apologists?

Conservative = going back to the "good ole' days" when women and black people were considered property.

 

[Jhhnn]

"I see your crazy Demint, and I raise you batshit. Call it!"

It's just one crazy trying to distract us from another one who can do more damage.

Or

He's not Crazy! I'll show you Crazy!

In a roundabout way, it attempts to give DeMint more credibility than he deserves.

Hard to tell the difference sometimes.

 

[DominionSeraph]

The crazies are out tonight.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Conservative = going back to the "good ole' days" when women and black people were considered property.

It is really disgusting. Conservatives are basically holocaust deniers here.

 

[norseamd]

Nope, see Haiti.

for sure

and see all the other latin american countries for the end of the oppression and colonialism of spain

 

[RampantAndroid]

"So no liberal is going to win a debate that big government freed the slaves."

..... of course..... that civil war thing was a bunch of segmented militia men fighting the confederates.....

If you really think that the civil war was about freeing slaves, you need to brush up on your history.

Also, I offer the words of Alan Van ***, from a letter to Lincoln, "We joyfully honor you for many decisive steps toward practically exemplifying your belief in the words of your great founders: 'All men are created free and equal.'"

 

[norseamd]

If you really think that the civil war was about freeing slaves, you need to brush up on your history. Also, I offer the words of Alan Van ***, from a letter to Lincoln, "We joyfully honor you for many decisive steps toward practically exemplifying your belief in the words of your great founders: 'All men are created free and equal.'"

no it was about stopping the sucession of the southern states of the united states of america

 

[CitizenKain]

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/...ations-michael-needham-tears-apart-right-wing

Thank you, I got side tracked earlier.

I wonder how much certain people on the right regret inventing the tea party.

 

[brycejones]

lol, I can't tell if this troll is serious or not.

Based on some other recent posts he is as serious as stewox, nehlam, TH, or IC are....

 

[michal1980]

When will conservatives call Jim DeMint out for his idiotic comments?

I'm trying on my IncorruptEble hat here.

what lefty wingnuts do you call out?

 

[RampantAndroid]

no it was about stopping the sucession of the southern states of the united states of america

Secession*

 

[Jhhnn]

If you really think that the civil war was about freeing slaves, you need to brush up on your history.

Also, I offer the words of Alan Van ***, from a letter to Lincoln, "We joyfully honor you for many decisive steps toward practically exemplifying your belief in the words of your great founders: 'All men are created free and equal.'"

The Civil War was about Secessionist States pre-emptively initiating hostilities so they could keep their slaves & the Union response to that.

That's true regardless of the romanticized bullshit of the believers in the Lost Cause.

 

[Meghan54]

The Civil War was about Secessionist States pre-emptively initiating hostilities so they could keep their slaves & the Union response to that.

That's true regardless of the romanticized bullshit of the believers in the Lost Cause.

Actually, the Civil War is framed as a war over state's rights, at least from a Southern conservative perspective.

The Southerners were first demanding the federal gov't keep its hands out of state's rights and also railing against the economic sanctions the North was putting on the South for pursuing the "rights" the southern states deemed proper, namely slavery.

Remember, the Republicans of the era were considered the fairly progressive, or liberal, political party while the Democrats were the fairly conservative political party and heavily concentrated in the South.

Of course, the "state's rights" argument the Southerners used was just a cover for keeping slavery as an institution, but that's irrelevant.

Secession was simply the straw that broke the camel's back.

 

[mchammer187]

what lefty wingnuts do you call out?

It doesn't matter because he is making a comparison of how not calling someone out explicit equates to vehemently defending them which is incorruptible's modus operandi.

 

[Jhhnn]

Actually, the Civil War is framed as a war over state's rights, at least from a Southern conservative perspective.

The Southerners were first demanding the federal gov't keep its hands out of state's rights and also railing against the economic sanctions the North was putting on the South for pursuing the "rights" the southern states deemed proper, namely slavery.

Remember, the Republicans of the era were considered the fairly progressive, or liberal, political party while the Democrats were the fairly conservative political party and heavily concentrated in the South.

Of course, the "state's rights" argument the Southerners used was just a cover for keeping slavery as an institution, but that's irrelevant.

Secession was simply the straw that broke the camel's back.

The mythos of the "Lost Cause Of the Confederacy" (States Rights) is just a shiny wrapper on a turd, the "Right" to keep slaves. That morphed southern society into the perpetrators of Jim Crow, which was as close to slavery as they could get over the next 100 years. They denied the wrongness of slavery, holding to the belief that blacks were inferior. There's nothing noble, principled or chivalrous about that, either, despite the romaticizations of southern conservatives. It was, is, and always will be rationalization for tyranny over black people, brown people, women, gays & everybody else who can be labeled as "Other". It's an expression of white male privilege, the core of "traditional values" in the South.

If there were any "sanctions" against the South at the time, you need to describe & document them. I believe that's just another commonly believed falsehood in support of the mythos.

There are genuine states rights issues, but they never had anything to do with the rhetoric of southern conservatives.