JFK second gunman was Secret Service agent?

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/28/jfk-second-shooter-documentary_n_3667317.html

A new documentary alleges that a Secret Service agent was the second (and accidental) shooter in the assassination of John F. Kennedy.

At the Television Critics Association press tour in Los Angeles on Sunday, producers and investigators behind Reelz Channel's new documentary "JFK: The Smoking Gun" made the claim that George Hickey, a Secret Service agent riding in the car behind Kennedy, accidentally shot the president on November 22, 1963. The film follows veteran police detective Colin McLaren in his four-year investigation of the assassination and points at Hickey, who died two years ago.

Addressing the crowd, McLaren claimed that Hickey and other Secret Service agents were out partying the night before Kennedy's fatal motorcade drive through Dallas. Based on his painstaking investigation, McLaren said, evidence suggests Hickey was not qualified to use the weapon he was holding the morning of the shooting.

"It was his first time in the follow car, his first time holding the assault weapon he was using," McLaren said. Producers said the film's theory is that shots rang out, and Hickey grabbed his weapon to return fire. When his car stopped suddenly, Hickey accidentally discharged his weapon -- making him the second shooter, the film's investigators and producers alleged.

McLaren said he believes that Hickey's weapon had hollow-point rounds -- different from the ammunition for the weapon used by Lee Harvey Oswald, whom the Warren Commission declared in 1964 was the lone gunman in the case. Menninger and McLaren said that based on their review of the forensics in the case, they believe that Kennedy was also struck by a hollow-point round.



This is a theory I had not heard before. Kinda interesting and a lot more likely than many others.
 

Thebobo

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Reelz channel? Never heard of it. Have to see if I get it.

Looks interesting though.
 

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OK Ill play along. WTF would this conspiracy be more credible than all the other ones or the official account of what went on that day?

Accidental discharge and it happened to hit the president in the head......!!!!!
And hickey never mentioned anything about shooting his gun!!!!!!!

Get real.
 

waggy

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OK Ill play along. WTF would this conspiracy be more credible than all the other ones or the official account of what went on that day?

Accidental discharge and it happened to hit the president in the head......!!!!!
And hickey never mentioned anything about shooting his gun!!!!!!!

Get real.

more credible then the amazing bouncing bullet yes.
 

Craig234

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I'm pretty well informed on the assassination. I collect books on the topic and have hundreds.

That means I can help with information on the topic. I'm not locked into saying 'this is what happened', but can help with pointing you away from errors.

I find zero evidence of this secret service agent as gunman theory. It's one that's out there - first argued that I'm aware of in 'Mortal Error' from 1992, though this is the first I recall about it being an agent from another car. A book I think so little of as not to include it in the collection, if that gives an idea. Think for just a common sense moment about what would be needed - the aiming and luck of a clearly intentional shot from that distance, the idea people with that agent wouldn't notice, and so on.

It's too bad when they waste resources on that sort of thing - and it discredits the research into other issues, 'they must all be crazy like that'.

I would say go into it with lots of skepticism as the nonsense it is.
 

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I suppose it's plausible but unlikley. The bullet came from the front, not behind. The trajectory lines up with where Oswald was shooting from.
 

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more credible then the amazing bouncing bullet yes.

not really. bullets do weird shit when they hit the body cavity and yes, they can certainly exit in a non-linear trajectory after initial entry.
 

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not really. bullets do weird shit when they hit the body cavity and yes, they can certainly exit in a non-linear trajectory after initial entry.

It didn't even do anything that weird. People are just dumb and believe what they hear in shitty Oliver Stone movies.
 

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I'm pretty well informed on the assassination. I collect books on the topic and have hundreds.

That means I can help with information on the topic. I'm not locked into saying 'this is what happened', but can help with pointing you away from errors.

I find zero evidence of this secret service agent as gunman theory. It's one that's out there - first argued that I'm aware of in 'Mortal Error' from 1992, though this is the first I recall about it being an agent from another car. A book I think so little of as not to include it in the collection, if that gives an idea. Think for just a common sense moment about what would be needed - the aiming and luck of a clearly intentional shot from that distance, the idea people with that agent wouldn't notice, and so on.

It's too bad when they waste resources on that sort of thing - and it discredits the research into other issues, 'they must all be crazy like that'.

I would say go into it with lots of skepticism as the nonsense it is.

I would be interested in hearing your analysis and what you think happened.
 

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I went to Dallas on the 30th anniversary in 1993 and I went there firmly convinced in a conspiracy to assassinate the president, but when I got there I found about every third person was offering up their own theories as to what happened and most of them seemed pretty half baked. I left feeling less certain about what happened and perhaps a bit more open to the idea it happened, more-or-less, the way the Warren Commision said it did.

Like many, I think, the Zapruder film was central in leading me to believe the fatal shot must have come from the front and from the general area of the grassy knoll. I say that because the film clearly showed JFK's head, which was slumped forward from the previous neck shot, rapidly snap backwards in a direction more-or-less away from the grassy knoll.

The late Doctor Alvarez (Nobel in Physics) reviewed this shot and concluded the fatal shot could have come from behind and that the reason the head snapped back was due to the "jet effect." He argued that a supersonic bullet, entering the head at the back and traveling forward within the fluid filled brain, would produce a shockwave and that the shockwave, when it reached the front side of the skull, would blast it out due to overpressure and that the pressurized fluid when then escape at high velocity producing a jet with resultant thrust capable of quickly moving the head backwards. As I recall, if only about 30% of the kinetic energy of the bullet was transferred into this jet at would be enough to produce the backwards motion seen.

I've shot some water jugs with my AR-15 and found, much to my surprise, that you can in fact make the water jugs move towards the riffle though that doesn't happen all the time. I have not tested a much more accurate human head analogue but I suspect there is something to the jet effect.

Still, there are enough aspects of this case that suggests others were involved so even if Oswald was the lone gunman I still think it possible if not likely that he was not alone. His connection with Guy Bannister and the building on 544 Camp Street in NO is of great interest to me and suggests a connection with intelligence related folks that didn't much like JFK.

I think it highly likely that the truth is out there but buried within the hundreds of theories with conflicting evidence and testimony I doubt we will ever know, with certainty, what happened that day in Dallas...


Brian
 

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Craig234

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I would be interested in hearing your analysis and what you think happened.

Well, I've been considering this is going to come up for a lengthy post as we get close to the 50th annivesary, but let me try to make some comments here.

I don't have an opinion as to what happened. As you learn more and more about this assassination, two things happen: you get more questions for every answer, and you realize this is so far stranger than fiction, so unbelievable in the complexity and how even basic questions simply cannot be resolved in unbelievable ways, that it's incredible.

Bottom line - one thing that helps is to not just look at 'what happened', and instead look at the amazing things you learn other than that by what you do find when learning about what we do know. For example, why Kennedy said he'd like to cut the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter them into the wind - this from the president at the height of the cold war. You learn a lot about how our government operated and what it did that's very important history, when learning about the assasination information.

There are multiple plausible scenarios, each with challenges and questions, from the lone gunman, to the CIA, Mafia, or a combination, to a Lyndon Johnson conspiracy and more.

Let me just take a quick example. If LBJ is suggested, the first reaction is 'well, ya, he stood to gain the presidency, but come on, that's outrageous. Politicians aren't murderers much'.

If you look a bit more, you find evidence of a maniacal, abnormal lust for the presidentcy LBJ had much more consistent with such a plot, and after a heart attack that he was convinced it would be 1964 or never for him; you would find hatred and tensions between the Kennedys and Johnson, going back to his selection as VP against Bobby's violent objection, because of sexual information blackmail by Johnson; disagreement on policy such as Johnson closely embracing President Diem in Vietnam, calling him "the Winston Churchill of Southeast Asia" without permission from Kennedy, while later Kennedy's actions helped lead to Diem being assassinated; a long and close friendship between LBJ and his neighbor J. Edgar Hoover with mutual animosity to the Kennedys; and evidence of LBJ corruption over a long period, both financial and poltical, stealing his Senate seat, and actually having a hitman who killed for him to protect him. Finding these sorts of details greatly adds to the plausibility of an LBJ role - without proving it, the others are similar and even stronger.

That's why I say it's easier to help people correct mistakes than to say 'here's the answer'.

I can ask many questions that don't have good answers - but it doesn't lead to proof.

There has been an unbelievable amount of research done, and it just isn't conclusive.

For example, Oswald's defection to Russia - which technically wasn't a defection, and included his suicide attempt when denied - was it real or fake - was he going to Russia as a spy in some capacity - the US had a program to plant people like Oswald as phony defectors - or not? Every dollar and hour of his travel to and from Russia have been examined closely, with suggestion of suspicious US government assistance but not conclusive evidence. It's clear Oswald fabricated his diary - why? On and on.

And after all that, if we did have those answers - it proves nothing about the assassination either way.

Another is that I felt the background of Oswald working at the book depository - for six weeks before the assassination IIRC - might shed some light. How did that come about?

It's one thing for an assassin to use a building like that, another for him to just happen to be employed there for several weeks, before the trip and route were planned. Did the plotters just have an incredible stroke of luck? Why, they want to kill Kennedy, and just happen to have Oswald available as a shooter or patsy, and JFK just happend to be planning a trip beneath his window weeks after he starts working there. Pretty implausible for an assassination plan.

So look into how it came about - it was a suggestion from his landlord, Ruth Paine, who had befriended his wife Marina though they were separated. Hm, check that a bit more, looks like Ruth's sister had close CIA connections! A ha! Look more, even Ruth there is some suspicion about CIA connections! A ha! How clever for them to use her to befriend the Oswalds and position him there. Except look more and it seems she got the suggestion from a neighbor who looks to have no ulterior motive.

So, I'd say the circumstances of Oswald's employment are more supportive of the lone gunman theory - but inconclusive, and there are thousands of other issues.

That's the bottom line - you find the CIA and Mafia each had great motives and means to assassinate Kennedy - this was no 'out of the blue' baseless speculating. But motive and means are not 'did it'. And Oswald has all kinds of things on both sides of the theories to support either one - just take the reported attempeted assassination of General Edwin Walker months before the Kennedy assassination, which many believe was done by Oswald.

It was described by Walker that he was sitting at his desk and bent over for a paper when a shot came through the window and hit the wall, just missing him. No one was ever caught. Walker has some history with Kennedy - he was fired for forcing US troops to be subjected to radical right-wing indoctrination from the John Birch Society, and went on to fancy himself a presidential candidate IIRC.

Was that assassination attempt real? Was Oswald behind it? (I won't get into the good evidence he was). Why? Just a nut showing he was prone to assassination, or was that some sort of test from conspirators having him prove he really would carry out an assassination? We can only speculate about this important incident.

There's a reason there are hundreds of books on the issue. A couple reasons - the bad one is there is a lot of crap to make money. But there's a lot of legitimate investigation as well.

The House committee did another investigation, but cut it short and left it underfunded, a bad formula for getting to the truth. The lead investigator has taken the position that is is a 'historical fact' that the mob was behind it; Congress was prepared to say it was just Oswald until late in the investigation in which audio evidence turned up that appeared to confirm multiple shooters in specific locations, including the 6th floow window and the grassy gnoll, and Congress finally said it was a 'probable conspiracy' based on the acoustic evidence without saying who was involved in the conspiracy - and soon after the acoustic evidence itself was seriously challenged by a re-evaluation by the National Academy of Sciences. See what I mean?

I can just tell you this:

- Oswald was a wild card. He fits into a lot of theories as assassin or patsy.

- The CIA had strong motives to want to kill Kennedy, most of all because, little known to the citizens of America, Kennedy was practically at war in a lot of ways with his own security administration - from his first months in office when he was told by a unanimous Joint Chiefs of Staff and CIA the Bay of Pigs was foolproof when it was actually almost guaranteed to fail, after which he greatly reduced the influence of those groups, creating liasion betwen him and the Join Chiefs to buffer him and firing the top two officials at the CIA for their role, including the legendary Allen Dulles. On issue after issue, the CIA viewed Kennedy kind of as a threat to American National Security.

But they know who's boss, right?

Let me answer that with a couple of anecdotes.

On the CIA side, candidate Kennedy had a major foreign policy plan of working to support a more independent Africa, changing US poilcy from support for European colonies - and the CIA partnering with brutal dictators. The key person in Kennedy's plan was the president of the Congo, Patrice Lumumba, who was an advocate for African countries uniting for their independence. He was the heart of Kennedy's policy.

After Kennedy was elected, before he was unaugrated, knowing Kenneyd's plans well, Allen Dulles had forces in Africa kidnap Lumumba - and three days before Kennedy's inaugration, assassinate him. That's the level of respect they had for a president who had Kennedy's views.

Kennedy didn't get the news for a few weeks; when he did, it was caught in a photo that speaks for itself about the effect it had, worth posting here:

jfkcongocry.jpg


Also, Kennedy planned for Bobby to re-organize the intelligence agencies in 1964 - just as Kennedy had already created the DIA to improve things (see the book 'House of Cards').

Regarding the military, the US nuclear policy was a hair trigger for all out nuclear war, a policy Kennedy viewed as incredibly reckless and dangerous to mankind.

He told his Secretary of Defense, Robert McNamara, to review the plans to work on revisions to reduce the risk.

The Air Force felt they owned the plans and not let any civilians even see them. When McNamara told Curtis LeMay to let him see them, LeMay refused his boss.

McManamara had to have Kennedy send a direct order to let McNamara see the plans.

Kennedy was constantly battling the poitics with his own government, who was far more anxious for the use of force than Kennedy - in the CIA, Pentagon and White House.

There's an easy case to be made that the CIA could have viewed Kennedy as a serious security risk and threat to the nation, as Kennedy constantly rejected their adivce, allowed the Bay of Pigs to fail rather than invade, rejected an invasion or air strike in Cuba in the Cuba missile crisis in the short term, maintained back channels of communication with Kruschev where they commiserated about the hawks in their own governments pressuring them, Kennedy's seeming radical pro-peace speech in June 1963, and more.

At the time the Pentagon wanted to 'win' Vietnam, Kennedy put his foot down with a plan to withdraw by 1965 after being re-elected, and to go on record that direction by reducing the 16,000 advidors by a symbolic 1,000 already in the fall of 1963 the month before he was assassinated.

There are more controversial theories as well - that there was a campaign led by Kennedy's reportedly serious relationship with Mary Meyer to have him use LSD and to become strongly pro-peace, in ways that would greatly alarm the security establishment into viewing Kennedy as a risk to the country.

- The Mafia, Kennedy had a war on the Mafia that began before his presidency, when he sat on the anti-mafia committee as his brother Bobby, the committee's chief counsel, called in top mobsters and attacked and humiliated them publically. As Sam Giancana took the 5th, Kennedy mocked him for laughing like a little girl. In the White House, their campaign was damaging to the mob like never before.

Two things about that. One is that Bobby had one mob boss, Carlos Marcello, taken into custody and dumped in Central America. That ended up nearly costing Marcello his life, as the government down there dumped him in a Nicaraguan jungle from which he barely crawled out alive with broken ribs as I recall, swearing revenge. Amazingly, at the time Kennedy was assassinated, Bobby was at his home about to have a party in celebration of the verdict he hoped he'd get in the trial where Marcello sued him for the deportation as illegal. That verdict came in as a victory for Marcello that the deportation had in fact been illegal.

The second is credible reports that Kennedy's father had asked the Chicago mob for their help in the election in Illinois - and then the mob felt betrayed by the war on them.

One other thing - the mob and CIA had a long working history many Americans still don't know about, going back to World War II when the Americans worked with the mafia to help them pave the way for the invasion of Italy. Later, of course, the CIA worked with the mafia on the attempted assassination of Castro among other things.

One of the examples I like to give about clearing things up is the fact that just as Kennedy passed in the motorcade, a man opened a black umbrella - on a warm sunny day. Why?

Clearly the only explanation is that it was a signal for shooters, there's no sensible reason for him to do that!

Except wait - they finally tracked the man down, and found he had done it as a political protest against Kennedy. Investigations seemed to confirm his innocence.

Anyway, that's a pretty long post already and hopefully gives some sense of the lay of the land on the issue.

If you'd like to read a book on it, one pretty remarkable book is "JFK and the Unspeakable".
 
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Craig234

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One thing to keep in mind:

It's pretty easy to show coverup. The question is actually why - not simply 'there's a coverup therefore a conspiracy'.

Exmaples:

Bobby Kennedy had a lot of interest in covering up things at the time like his leadership of Operation Mongoose that was major terrorism against Cuba, and the role of the CIA in attempted assassinations of Castro, and so on. So even if he thought the Cubans might have been involved, for example - and he did suspect it - he didn't want to make a public issue of it exposing secrets. If he suspected the mafia - and he did - he didn't want the information coming out about any deal his father made with the mafia.

LBJ had one of two motives for a coverup - either a desire to get people to accept a lone gunman to prevent nuclear war if the USSR was suspected; or pretending to do so where his real motive was to coverup a role he had. When he asked Chief Justice Warren to head the commission - one Johnson had originally opposed - Warren refused, and Johnson persuaded him by telling him it was his duty to honor the President's request to help avert nuclear war.

The CIA and FBI may have had a motive to cover up any relationship with Oswald simply to prevent embarrassment to their agencies - or it might have been more.

Another issue: Kennedy's brain vanished from the storage in the national archives. Proof of a conspiracy wantingn to hide the evidence showing how the bullets hit, right?

Well, no. Evidence suggests the thief was Bobby Kennedy, who had the brain go to Arlington, not wanting it to become a spectacle on display.

Just saying, there are a lot of questions about 'coverup'.
 
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jhansman

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Please. Everyone knows it was that commie-loving Oswald and his cheap ass imported bolt-action rifle in the book depository. Didn't the Warren Commission put this issue to bed? My my, it's a sad day indeed when we can't even trust the government....

/sarcasm
 

xaeniac

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I don't have an opinion as to what happened.

Thanks Craig234. Great and interesting read. I have heard from many that feel it was LBJ, though it could be a perfect storm scenario. Very interesting subject and there had to be more than Lee Harvey eh? You presented many facts and I find it hard you don't have an opinion? It would have been nice for you to take a stance though but there is no clear cut indicator, so I understand. Thanks again!
 

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I'm not in the mood right now to watch a long video or dig for info.

What's the official explanation for how Oswald managed to hit those shots through a fully leaved tree that obscured his vision, or why he didn't just take the shot from the other window, which would have been 10x easier?
 

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Thanks Craig234. Great and interesting read. I have heard from many that feel it was LBJ, though it could be a perfect storm scenario. Very interesting subject and there had to be more than Lee Harvey eh? You presented many facts and I find it hard you don't have an opinion? It would have been nice for you to take a stance though but there is no clear cut indicator, so I understand. Thanks again!

Thanks. The thing is, I'd *think* there should be a few 'smoking guns' here and there that would rule in or out some of these theories, and instead it's just amazing how much evidence there is pulling in different directions without that definitive bit. The kind where you can throw out 500 inconclusive facts because of one that's clear.

If you just kind of want to have your mind blown for the sake of seeing one of the amazing bits of research hard to explain, check out David Lifton's "Best Evidence".

But while there are many issues you'd expect to help be definitive answers, they all come up inconclusive.

Even take what you'd think would be some of the best evidence - confessions. A mob boss took credit for the assassination, witnessed by an FBI undercover agent (who, in an incredible crime to history, did not probe because it wasn't the issue he was assigned to investigate). On the other hand, a CIA official confessed to being involved in a conspiracy to his son, on tape, and named several others involved. The sort of evidence you'd think is the 'smoking gun', but not so fast - not to mention the contradiction betwen those two.

So as I said, I only take the position you can narrow this down to the 'likely suspects' - which still, if barely, include the lone gunman theory. For just one example of a fact leaning against that, there is a letter purported to be from Oswald to the USSR sent to them shortly before the assassination. There are all kinds of suggestions the letter is a forgery - from major spelling dispcrepencides to being typewritten when no others were to being hugely inflammatory implying the assassination was at the USSR's desire.

When the USSR received the letter, they realized the danger, that after the assassination they could be accused when the letter was 'uncovered' somehow, and they immediately sent the letter to the US explaining it was sent to them without any involvement by them. It looks a lot like the sort of ploy that could be done to help trigger an attack on the Soviet Union by a faction who wanted that - and they did exist at the top levels of government at the time. It's a mystery suggesting an additional motive and conspiracy.

It's easy to forget those times, when members of the Joint Chiefs could feel that we had to go to war with the Soviet Union 'before it was too late'. Kennedy was their enemy.

When you watch his speech to American University in June, 1963, you can see how much of an enemy he was to the cold warriors.

To repeat, what I'm saying is just that there seem to be plausible cases for several theories, each with motive and means and evidence suggesting them, where only one of them can be correct and I haven't seen evidence to rule out a few primary ones, so they remain 'plausible'. But I do not include this one of a Secret Service Agent as credible.

There's an anecdote about Lincoln where he asked his cabinet for advice and they gave him a unanimous opinion. Lincoln responded he was the only 'no' vote, and the 'no' wins.

That's a bit like the environment Kennedy had, really worse, where he was much more dedicated to peace than his own advisors, much less his opponents like Goldwater.

At the height of the Cuban Missile Crisis, the CIA was sending operatives to commit vioolence in Cuba without permission, threatening to destabilize the situation and trigger nuclear war. His own advisors supported an invasion to remove the missiles, with air strikes being the 'peaceful' alternative; JFK rejected both. This was a CIA who murdered the African continent's leader they knew the incoming president wanted to partner with to undermine his policy. You can listen today to the secret recordings of the Join Chiefs talk insultingly about Kennedy when he left the room, not knowing they were being recorded, knowing Kennedy did not respect them - the same Chiefs who approved the 'Operation Northwood' document McNamara squelched advocating false flag operations to get war.

For a taste of the environment, there was a novel at the time about the military, not liking the peaceful policies of the president, staging a coup and removing him, called 'Seven Days in May'. Kennedy said the book could happen - and he felt the chances were so high that he personally requested it be made into a movie to warn the American people of that sort of danger, and it was, with Kennedy allowing filming to take place at the White House.

It's hard to understand that environment today, but it was the case - yet that still doesn't 'prove' a conspiracy, simply supports its plausibility.
 

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I'm not in the mood right now to watch a long video or dig for info.

What's the official explanation for how Oswald managed to hit those shots through a fully leaved tree that obscured his vision, or why he didn't just take the shot from the other window, which would have been 10x easier?

To take the last one first, that's a long-time question. On the one hand, it could suggest, 'because there were other shooters where the shooting happened'.

But there are other possible explanations, even if unlikely - things as simple as Oswald hesitating for a second, and then getting his nerve after the turn.

For the first, sorry I don't recall the facts clearly on this, but I do not recall there being any leaves blocking Oswald's shot. I don't think there were; if you have good evidence, post.

Note Oswald did not hit every shot - one missed entirely.

What are the odds with that that a shot hit so accurately? Not great, but possible, just yet another bit of evidence that isn't conclusive to prove what happened.

By the way, one post mentioned the Zapruder film, which is important evidence. But a couple points. One is reports of various tampering of the film - part of it lost, reported of 'accidental' reversing of frames and damage and even retouching - raising questions about some conclusions from it, even given the low quality images. But another is that even if you take the film at face value, it doesn't answer questions as simple as whether the movement of Kennedy's head proves the bullet came from one side or the other.

One of the most significant mysteries for me is the reports of witnesses of men claiming to be Secret Service agents, with ID's, where there weren't any. That is the sort of 'smoking gun' evidence I'm talking about, if confirmed - that would effectively pretty much disprove the 'lone gunman' theory. There seems to be some strong supporting evidence for that.

I will mention one of the largest mysteries as well - that of the 'Oswald double' theory. There is all kinds of evidence suggesting there was an 'Oswald double' for weeks before the assassination doing various activities that would leave a trail to be found for assassination investigators. Things like 'Oswald' going to a firing range and picking a loud fight that would be remembered.

Nevermind the trip to Mexico City - then the world's hot spot for intelligence agencies - where the CIA claims to have had photo surveillance of Oswald but the photo wasn't him and there was some mysterious mixup why they didn't have the photo they claimed, where the story is Oswald went to the Cuban embassy to seek a visa.

Nevermind the reports that he met with the USSR's head of assassinations - a story that would fit well, if phony, with that theory of the USSR being set up as a suspect.

Like I said, there's a lot to dig through.
 
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