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Lifer
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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Triumph

It doesn't matter if it was a problem. EVERY car has problems. And the coilpack problem was relatively minor. And amdforever2 isn't going to have a problem, so to him it's a moot point. The way they handled the problem isn't what you brought up initially. "The 1.8T engine is great, when it's working" is what you said.

the way they handled the problem was part and parcel with the problem itself. vw made it harder to get it fixed by going back to what audi used to do and just denying that there was a problem. they did that for months.

edit: yeah, great, he may not be getting that motor, i wasn't responding to him anyway, you'll note

You implied that the 1.8T is an unreliable motor (The 1.8T engine is great, when it's working). That's a false statement. I explained to you why. End of story. How VW handled the problem has nothing to do with the mechanical functioning of sparks, gasoline, air, compression, and combustion.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: Triumph

You implied that the 1.8T is an unreliable motor (The 1.8T engine is great, when it's working). That's a false statement. I explained to you why. End of story. How VW handled the problem has nothing to do with the mechanical functioning of sparks, gasoline, air, compression, and combustion.

umm. no, you made a blanket statement about the reliability of the 1.8T without anything to back your position up at all.
 

Ryan

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Jesus = you're getting raped!!!! Have you tried getting a cosigner so you coudl get a lower APR? Are the a military dependant - if so, try USAA for a loan, you're get a better rate.

Ever think about a Scion?

 

CraigRT

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that's insane, Chrysler offers 0% financing... they have amazing deals, i dunno what that means when they couldn't do anything, but when i was looking for cars, i'd would have had to have been dumb to not buy my car with the deal it was.
 

Triumph

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Triumph

You implied that the 1.8T is an unreliable motor (The 1.8T engine is great, when it's working). That's a false statement. I explained to you why. End of story. How VW handled the problem has nothing to do with the mechanical functioning of sparks, gasoline, air, compression, and combustion.

umm. no, you made a blanket statement about the reliability of the 1.8T without anything to back your position up at all.

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It's impossible to carry on a conversation with you.
 

Pliablemoose

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02' Golf TDI, never been back tot he dealership, just rolled 37K on it.

Although it doesn't have electric windows, but there's a fix for them.
 

StageLeft

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In your place I would buy a used car. I was in your place 2.5 years ago and did exactly that. It was the absolute best thing I could have done. The car was cheap, reliable, and then a year later when my credit had built itself up nicely I got a low rate on my maxima.

If you have to buy a newish car, that jetta sounds good, but honestly you do not have to. That's my advice.

In regards to reliability as a whole the numbers speak for themselves. Late model VWs are bottom of the barrel in reliability at the moment (maybe above Kia, but certainly below honda, nissan, FORD, GM, etc.). JD power and Consumer reports both don't care for them _whatsoever_. There are several people on these forums even who say that they'll never buy another VW because quite simply theirs does not work. Constant trips to the dealer. They are a nice car when they work.

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thomsbrain

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OMG LETS ALL GET IN A BIG VW FIGHT IN SOMEONE ELSES THREAD LIKE WE ALWAYS DO.

but regarding the actual topic at hand: there's no way in hell i would pay 10% on a car. i seriously think you should sit down and work out the math for how much this is going to cost you when all is said and done, because i think when you see how much money you're really looking at, you might think twice about buying this car. if you can't even pony up 3K, you're not in any position to be getting yourself 13K in high-interest debt. buy yourself an older used jetta if you really need a jetta, then when you actually have the money to buy a newer car (or the credit to get a decent %), you can sell the one you have and buy the newer one. but if you have no money and no credit, getting yourself into a pile of debt just doesn't seem smart.
 

Ryan

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Originally posted by: CraigRT
that's insane, Chrysler offers 0% financing... they have amazing deals, i dunno what that means when they couldn't do anything, but when i was looking for cars, i'd would have had to have been dumb to not buy my car with the deal it was.

The 0% is only offered to people with a high credit rating, usually only class A credit scores. Every deal you see advertised is almost exclusively available to people with class A credit scores, everyone else is excluded. He would never be able to get 0% if he has a class D.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Triumph

Like I said, you don't know what you're talking about. They had a bad batch of coilpacks, they only affected certain years after 2001.5 (engine has been around since 1995), they're easily fixed, and they're fixed for free under a recall. And, once they're fixed, they don't go bad again. So like I said, anyone who says otherwise....

were the coilpacks on the 1.8T motor? last i checked they sure were.

It was a supplier issue. The supplier they used for those coilpacks produced them under less than stellar conditions so they failed. Mine was fixed on my Audi for the recall. It took all of 2 hours and I had a loaner A4 and got to eat lunch on the dealer's dime.
 

Nutdotnet

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Some of you bash VW WAY too much.....

Back to the original question....go for it! It sounds like a great first financed car. 10% is a bit high, but you sound like you have little or no credit so it's great for your situation. I think in a year or so you could try to get it refinanced.
 

amdforever2

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This is the only option.

I'm driving my grandmas 92 buick century right now for work, and the things transmission is nearly dead. You rev to 5000 and it takes a full minute before you're going fast enough for it to switch to 2nd gear.

No family can help. The ones that can, won't.

Chrysler won't finance me on a used 97 Probe one of their dealers had.

It's either a first time buyer type thing on a new or certified used car (only thing where first time buyer is available) or honest bobs used inhouse financing at 15% on a car that may very well fall apart in 6 months.

I'm in no position to be demanding good rates. I need them to finance me....not the other way around.
 

nan0bug

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Originally posted by: amdforever2
This is the only option.

I'm driving my grandmas 92 buick century right now for work, and the things transmission is nearly dead. You rev to 5000 and it takes a full minute before you're going fast enough for it to switch to 2nd gear.

No family can help. The ones that can, won't.

Chrysler won't finance me on a used 97 Probe one of their dealers had.

It's either a first time buyer type thing on a new or certified used car (only thing where first time buyer is available) or honest bobs used inhouse financing at 15% on a car that may very well fall apart in 6 months.

I'm in no position to be demanding good rates. I need them to finance me....not the other way around.

Check with a reputable used car dealer and explain your situation, and see if they can find you something cheap but in good condition at an auto auction. You'd be surprised what a lot of dealers will do if they see a potential return customer.
 

BornStar

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I definitely like the way that Jettas look but I'm not impressed by their electrical systems. My girlfriends '02 1.8T has been into the shop multiple times for random electrical problems. The first problem occurred when the radio went out which they replaced and it works fine. The next time the alarm stopped honking. I tried calling the dealship and they said that it explained how to set the alarm to honk in the manual. No such luck as another dealership had to try to reset the actual alarm. That didn't work. They were supposed to order several parts last time the car was in, but for some reason that never happened. So the car is still driving around just fine except that the alarm doesn't work and there are still some errors in the instrument cluster which is also getting replaced. The coilpack was replaced twice because the dealer recorded the replacement wrong so she kept on getting hassled by them to replace the coilpack. I swear that there's something wrong with the transmission but nobody agrees since there aren't any errors in the computer.

There's more to this list but I'm not having any luck coming up with it. I suppose if you get an older one you won't have these problems but I would be careful around Jettas.