Jetbrains new pricing model

[paperwastage]

Don't think I've seen this posted/discussed yet

http://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2015/09/18/final-update-on-the-jetbrains-toolbox-announcement/

old model: pay $ for current version + 1yr free update. You get to keep those (current version+1yr free update) forever.

new model: pay $, get current version forever. You also get updates for 1 year, but if you don't renew your subscription, you don't get to keep those updates (will need to downgrade to the version you explicitly paid for)


upside: I can pay $250 and get ALL of the products (Intellij, AppCode, PhpStorm, PyCharm, Resharper...), versus $500+ before

Using the community edition of Intellij, was looking to get AppCode

 

[DaveSimmons]

> new model: pay $, get current version forever. You also get updates for 1 year, but if you don't renew your subscription, you don't get to keep those updates (will need to downgrade to the version you explicitly paid for)

Wow, that's not good. I've never heard of a maintenance plan that yoinks updates that happened during the plan term.

We pay Flexera an arm and 2 legs for my InstallShield license but even they haven't tried that one . . . yet.

 

[paperwastage]

well, i think the consensus is that you keep the bug fixes (eg: you paid for version 15.3.... you get to keep bug fixes under 15.x. you just don't get to keep 16.x if it's released under 1 yr)

Jetbrain's reply

This way we’d have to set significantly higher prices. We’re sorry it didn’t work out as you expected but we really think this solution is optimal overall.

previously, Intellij had a ~14 month upgrade model... I'm guessing that Jetbrain wanted to switch to a quicker upgrade model (eg 8 months) and keep the revenue as well

https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/204784622-What-is-perpetual-fallback-license-

 

[purbeast0]

not related to the pricing model, but i was so excited to see they had intellij "for ios" development with appcode, but after using it i had to go back to xcode. it is just missing some very basic stuff that xcode offers that makes it not useable to me. things such as auto-fixing when you are missing ? or ! on variables, and the auto complete and error displaying in-line just doesn't work in appcode.

and since you can't edit storyboards inside of it, it just didn't make sense to use it.

hopefully after a few iterations they can fix it. i use intellij at work and just love it. i also use android studio at home and love that too. would be incredible to do ios development with it.

 

[paperwastage]

not related to the pricing model, but i was so excited to see they had intellij "for ios" development with appcode, but after using it i had to go back to xcode. it is just missing some very basic stuff that xcode offers that makes it not useable to me. things such as auto-fixing when you are missing ? or ! on variables, and the auto complete and error displaying in-line just doesn't work in appcode.

and since you can't edit storyboards inside of it, it just didn't make sense to use it.

hopefully after a few iterations they can fix it. i use intellij at work and just love it. i also use android studio at home and love that too. would be incredible to do ios development with it.

from reading reviews/comparisons, people say to use XCode for storyboard, and Intellij/Appcode for coding/refactoring/... (Intellij/Appcodeis far superior in coding and doesn't crash like Xcode)

(AppCode requires Xcode anyways... so keep both installed)

I'm in the process of reinstalling El Captain on my macbook, will try out appcode

Waiting to see how 0xDBE fits/gets released in the "All Products Pack" before I buy it..

 

[purbeast0]

yeah i tried appcode for like a week and the more i used it the more it had little things that i didn't like about it, mainly the stuff i mentioned. going back/forth from xcode/appcode when you need to work on storyboards also was clunky. after like 4 days it still didn't feel "right" as i thought it would.

and yeah i know intellij is way better than xcode, but for ios development, as much as i hate xcode and question a lot of design decisions they have (like why cant you turn off single clicking on a file so that it doesn't always open it and replace the current document) but after extensive use (to me) i just couldn't do it.

the other guy that is working on this project said the same thing. he really wanted to like appcode but in the end had to go back to xcode. i think once they have better swift compatibility and error handling, it will be better.

 

[brianmanahan]

i've wanted to buy webstorm and rubymine on a couple of occasions, but can't bring myself to fork over the money

at work i can use the whole suite at no cost to me, but still haven't made the jump from eclipse for java work. for HTML/CSS/JS though, gotta be in webstorm