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JetBlue captain subdued after pounding on cockpit

MotionMan

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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57405282/jetblue-captain-subdued-after-pounding-on-cockpit/

(CBS News) A police officer and an off-duty airline pilot subdued a JetBlue captain Tuesday morning aboard a Las Vegas-bound flight when the captain started pounding on the cockpit door after the flight's co-pilot asked him to leave and subsequently locked him out, a federal official told CBS News.

The captain became incoherent during JetBlue Flight 191 from New York's John F. Kennedy International, prompting the co-pilot to get him to leave the cockpit, the official said. JetBlue said in a statement to CBS News that the flight was diverted to Amarillo, Texas, "for a medical situation involving the captain."

Jet Blue flight 191 enroute from JFK to Las Vegas. The flight was diverted to Amarillo after the pilot reported an in-flight-emergency concerning an out-of-control passenger on board.
A different federal official told CBS News that the incident doesn't appear to be related to terrorism but that the FBI is investigating. The police officer, who works for the New York Police Department, was travelling as a passenger.

The "ill crewmember" was taken to a local medical facility after the plane landed in Amarillo, JetBlue said. Passengers are expected to be transported to Las Vegas on a different plane.
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Link has video taken inside the plane.

Scary.

MotionMan
 
Pilots are over worked and under paid these days. Only a few rungs above a career as a Drive Thru Window operator.
 
Nuts.
I read something a few years ago about the mentality of people who go into being a professional pilot and it was pretty fucking interesting.

Many of them get into because they pretty smart but not in a bookish way, have risk taking personality, and desire for the glory days when pilots were gods.
On top of that, it is a high pressure job, that pays kinda shitty, and in no way reflex the honor that they feel they should have been getting, or at least used to get.

The combination of that makes them hugely at risk for substance abuse and breakdown.
Makes you feel good to fly.

It also said something about their impulsiveness is actually a huge advantage for a pilot. Need to be ready to make a quick decision and act on it at any second.
Probably not a bad thing.
 
SirStev0 said:
Nuts.
I read something a few years ago about the mentality of people who go into being a professional pilot and it was pretty fucking interesting.

Many of them get into because they pretty smart but not in a bookish way, have risk taking personality, and desire for the glory days when pilots were gods.
On top of that, it is a high pressure job, that pays kinda shitty, and in no way reflex the honor that they feel they should have been getting, or at least used to get.

The combination of that makes them hugely at risk for substance abuse and breakdown.
Makes you feel good to fly.

It also said something about their impulsiveness is actually a huge advantage for a pilot. Need to be ready to make a quick decision and act on it at any second.
Probably not a bad thing.
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I think most of them still come from the military, so many of them are pre-screened for those personality traits.

MotionMan
 
MotionMan said:
No. Look at the chart, I took the hourly rate at the bottom right for captain ($124/hr). I assume most are not in that category.

Even at the minimum monthly hours (which I also assume is rare) they make over $100k.

MotionMan
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I am not 100% sure with Pilots, but flight attendants only get paid for the time the doors are closed, so pay rates per hour are high, but there's a lot of waiting around, pre-flight work, etc. that you have to do.
 
MotionMan said:
I think most of them still come from the military, so many of them are pre-screened for those personality traits.
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I'd like to see numbers on this. I live right by DIA. 3 of my neighbors are pilots, one a captain. None of them were military. I wouldn't necessarily doubt it, I just wonder if that's still the case.
 
MixMasterTang said:
I am not 100% sure with Pilots, but flight attendants only get paid for the time the doors are closed, so pay rates per hour are high, but there's a lot of waiting around, pre-flight work, etc. that you have to do.
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This is true... but you usually get paid a minimum number of hours per month (~65-75 maybe). For the pilots the flight usually starts an hour before the door closes and maybe 30 minutes afterwards you are finally done. So not too bad, but there is a lot of dead time if you have a route that takes you away from home.
 
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Gooberlx2 said:
I'd like to see numbers on this. I live right by DIA. 3 of my neighbors are pilots, one a captain. None of them were military. I wouldn't necessarily doubt it, I just wonder if that's still the case.
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I don't know the numbers, but I do know a lot of commercial pilots come from the air force academy. There are many young men with the dream of flying fighter jets or bombers, but not many openings in which to fill. My best friend's brother is actually in that boat. He will be flying for Delta in the next few years.
 
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if someone shows up to work looking like this there is a problem brewing.
 
swanysto said:
Gooberlx2 said:
MotionMan said:
I think most of them still come from the military, so many of them are pre-screened for those personality traits.

MotionMan
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I'd like to see numbers on this. I live right by DIA. 3 of my neighbors are pilots, one a captain. None of them were military. I wouldn't necessarily doubt it, I just wonder if that's still the case.
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I don't know the numbers, but I do know a lot of commercial pilots come from the air force academy. There are many young men with the dream of flying fighter jets or bombers, but not many openings in which to fill. My best friend's brother is actually in that boat. He will be flying for Delta in the next few years.
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USAF Pilots trained in multi engine bombers or cargo haulers (C141, C5, C41, C10, etc) will transition into the "non-commuter" planes (737 size and greater) It will take another 10-20 years for them to get into the left seat.

People coming out of the aviation schools can get into the commuter airlines flying frames like Bombardier, Embraer , etc. (10-100 seats). Some are turbo-props, others are jet.
Those salaries are from 20K-50K
 
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