mandarin. it's a film made by mainland china lol.
the only place that makes non-mandarin chinese films is hong kong
Actually, there are some slight differences... and I mean slight... when one expresses Cantonese written.
What I find interesting is that you think of Hero as Jet Li's film.
To me, it's an ensemble piece, since it stars Tony Leung and Maggie Cheung, who have been stars in HK/China for 20 years. Zhang Ziyi is a newcomer and welcome addition.
-PCM
What I find interesting is that you think of Hero as Jet Li's film.
To me, it's an ensemble piece, since it stars Tony Leung and Maggie Cheung, who have been stars in HK/China for 20 years. Zhang Ziyi is a newcomer and welcome addition.
-PCM
Not interesting at all.
Released here, the Title is Jet Li's Hero.
Also, putting Jet Li in the thread title probably generates mor responses than putting in the other guys.
I am well aware that the movie title was changed by Miramax for its release here.
Ah, okay.
Yeah, movie studios do that often, market titles differently depending on the place to where they wish to sell the product.
Yeah, most of the USA has never heard of Tony or Maggie. They've seen Zhang Ziyi in Rush Hour 2 and Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon.
Cheers, :beer:
PCM
Yeah, movie studios do that often, market titles differently depending on the place to where they wish to sell the product.
Yeah, most of the USA has never heard of Tony or Maggie. They've seen Zhang Ziyi in Rush Hour 2 and Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon.
Cheers, :beer:
PCM
TuxDave
Lifer
- Oct 8, 2002
- 10,571
- 3
- 71
So let's take the word 'country' for example. Guo. The surrounding box is the same, but if a person only knew the simplified version and saw the traditional version, what strokes would help them deduce that it was 'guo'. (honestly, I think people cheat by using context)
Babbles
Diamond Member
- Jan 4, 2001
- 8,253
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There are a bit more differences between the spoken Mandarin and Cantonese. They are dialects of each other about as much as Italian and French are dialects of each other. In fact some linguists out there say that European languags have more in common with each other than Mandarin and Cantonese have with each other.
Sweet that folks can know the subtle diffences between the two, but can you actually apply it and translate the begining of the movie?I wish I had a screen shot.
Its just some historical backround, about this Qin emporer guy who is progressively conquering all of china and how it naturally follows from this that some very cool people with wicked kung-fu skills are all about making this Qin emporer guy into a dead Qin emporer guy. I think is 200 BC or 2000BC or somesuch like that. It is pretty irrelevant.
Here is the translation, hope it helps.
"Two thousand years ago, during the Warring States period, China was divided into seven Kingdoms: Qin, Zhao, Han, Wei, Yan, Qi, and Chu. For years they battled for supremacy while the people suffered. Among them, Qin Kingdom was the most powerful. Ying Zheng, the King of Qin, made his efforts trying to conquer the other kingdoms and unify China. He was regarded as a common threat by the other six kingdoms. The annals of Chinese history abound with tales of the assassins sent to kill this great King..."
"Two thousand years ago, during the Warring States period, China was divided into seven Kingdoms: Qin, Zhao, Han, Wei, Yan, Qi, and Chu. For years they battled for supremacy while the people suffered. Among them, Qin Kingdom was the most powerful. Ying Zheng, the King of Qin, made his efforts trying to conquer the other kingdoms and unify China. He was regarded as a common threat by the other six kingdoms. The annals of Chinese history abound with tales of the assassins sent to kill this great King..."
0roo0roo
No Lifer
- Sep 21, 2002
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- 84
- 91
yea its convoluted. its not as if they are just saying words slightly different, its a lot different. knowing one doesn't help you much at all with the other. they don't even sound similar.
and yea, trailer was during killbilll2
its a couple years old now though
shelly is right. i dont know why, but its just that way. the people from mainland china i know at my school who learned chinese in china can read traditional chinese perfectly, but not write it. the people from taiwan and others who learned traditional chinese can sometimes make out the simplified characters, but there are a lot of simplified words they dont recognize.
plus, in chinese calligraphy and historical stuff, its only traditional chinese. you would never see someone doing calligraphy in simplified chinese. :Q
I THINK i have copy that has it translated. Not sure though.
I'll be home in about two hours, I'll check back then.
I'll be home in about two hours, I'll check back then.
TuxDave
Lifer
- Oct 8, 2002
- 10,571
- 3
- 71
That's so weird. I guess it depends on what you want to learn. If you want to learn how to write chinese, it's better to learn traditional since that's more formal and as you said, used for caligraphy. If you want to read better, it's better to learn chinese in its simplified form.
"Two thousand years ago... during the Warring States period, China was divided into seven Kingdoms. For years they battled for supremacy while the people suffered. The King of Qin was the most rutheless in his efforts to conquer the land and unify all under heaven. He was regarded as a common threat by the other six Kingdoms. The annals of Chinese history are abound with tales of the assassins sent to kill the great King. This is one of the legends..."
This isn't an "official" copy now so take it w/ a grain of salt.
Anyways, this movie = overrated to me. Though a lot of Chinese people are worked up about it since its historically "controversial".
This isn't an "official" copy now so take it w/ a grain of salt.
Anyways, this movie = overrated to me. Though a lot of Chinese people are worked up about it since its historically "controversial".
I have it on VCD, it's more artsy than action. Don't go in the theatre expecting regular jet li kicking ass movie but more about camera angles and philosophy.
You guys want to talk about Chinese?
Three major groups exist, Mandarin and it's derivatives are the main dialect used by Chinese throughout the world and Taiwan. Main ethnicity of Chinese people are the Han chinese. The third largest dialects are from the "wu" family, shanghainese speak this language. The second is from the "yue" family, cantonese is in this category. And the smallest is in the "minnan" family where Hokkien/Taiwanese, and Teochiu is apart of (lots of singaporeans are speakers of "minnan" dialect group).
Grammar is not always the same within the dialects of Chinese. There are colloquial and proper ways to speak chinese, cantonese tend to be the most colloquial dialect.
Each dialect have their own writing system, alas it's been integrated into two system, simplified and traditional. *simplified is a joke*
Three major groups exist, Mandarin and it's derivatives are the main dialect used by Chinese throughout the world and Taiwan. Main ethnicity of Chinese people are the Han chinese. The third largest dialects are from the "wu" family, shanghainese speak this language. The second is from the "yue" family, cantonese is in this category. And the smallest is in the "minnan" family where Hokkien/Taiwanese, and Teochiu is apart of (lots of singaporeans are speakers of "minnan" dialect group).
Grammar is not always the same within the dialects of Chinese. There are colloquial and proper ways to speak chinese, cantonese tend to be the most colloquial dialect.
Each dialect have their own writing system, alas it's been integrated into two system, simplified and traditional. *simplified is a joke*
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